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    Just remembered where i saw dragon in maid outfit, that looks like censored Alexstrasza.
    Please, there a perfect example of hypocritical thinking:
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    If Tinkers had anything to do with Hunters, but they don’t. Unlike Bards which are linked to Rogues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilithvia View Post
    I mean it literally leaked as source code on the official website
    Well... that post was made back in february before the leaks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    Well... that post was made back in february before the leaks...
    But Dragon Isles as a theme was known far far longer. And Dragon, Dragons, Dragonflight: you don't need an Harvard Diplome to use it on your fake leak. He was just lucky enough that he found the right title for the expansion, nothing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    You can repeat it as many times you want, I don't care. You'll never stop me from speculating buddy. Who even are you lol, am I supposed to know you or whatever you said in the past?
    Speculate as much as you want, i don't really care, but this does not change the fact that this leak is fake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lana Alan View Post
    Level scaling is terrible. And people complained about it independant of item level scaling, because they didn't like how things leveled up with them. The whole point of an RPG and leveling up is to become stronger. That is invalidated when things level up with you.
    The whole point of an RPG is to get punished because you out level content? Level scaling and item level scaling still allows progression and the feeling of getting powerful. It just needs to be balanced and have the ranges not be so dramatic but even now there is a clear mark of "I have the gear to handle it". Doing stuff in leveling gear vs max for that tier still provides you becoming stronger.

    It just isn't reflected in "green/grey" quest and other indicators. Perception though is a large part of a lot of problems with WoW complaints.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velerios View Post
    But Dragon Isles as a theme was known far far longer. And Dragon, Dragons, Dragonflight: you don't need an Harvard Diplome to use it on your fake leak. He was just lucky enough that he found the right title for the expansion, nothing more.

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    Speculate as much as you want, i don't really care, but this does not change the fact that this leak is fake.
    Did the maker of this leak hurt you or something? You seem unnaturally obsessed and angered by the mere existence of this leak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velerios View Post
    But Dragon Isles as a theme was known far far longer. And Dragon, Dragons, Dragonflight: you don't need an Harvard Diplome to use it on your fake leak. He was just lucky enough that he found the right title for the expansion, nothing more.
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    I wasn't talking about the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    Lute playing animation comes from Cataclysm. Russell Brower, Dwarf bard in the Twilight Highlands.

    Also got used in Legion in the Rogue order hall, I believe.
    New Bard class.
    Dwarves only for Alliance.
    Taurens for Horde:

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    Any new class that can't be blood elves is bound to be a failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Did the maker of this leak hurt you or something? You seem unnaturally obsessed and angered by the mere existence of this leak.
    No, i'm just angry that there are so many naiive people who takes this leak so seriously since the OP managed to use the right title. But this "Leak" is so badly done that i can't understand how people fall for it. No wonder that so many people fall for this "Microsoft Support"-Scam, because they are too gullible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velerios View Post
    No, i'm just angry that there are so many naiive people who takes this leak so seriously since the OP managed to use the right title. But this "Leak" is so badly done that i can't understand how people fall for it. No wonder that so many people fall for this "Microsoft Support"-Scam, because they are too gullible.
    It’s not that serious, my dude. It’s a bunch of cool, different ideas. Hype isn’t that weird; nice to see some people excited about something WoW for once. If it turns out this is all fake, and next expac is a bummer, life moves on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    The whole point of an RPG is to get punished because you out level content? Level scaling and item level scaling still allows progression and the feeling of getting powerful. It just needs to be balanced and have the ranges not be so dramatic but even now there is a clear mark of "I have the gear to handle it". Doing stuff in leveling gear vs max for that tier still provides you becoming stronger.

    It just isn't reflected in "green/grey" quest and other indicators. Perception though is a large part of a lot of problems with WoW complaints.
    Scaling doesn’t make sense when you’re gaining levels. If people want to get on the scaling band wagon (I don’t think scaling is right for the WoW I want, but that’s irrelevant since we have classic) just remove levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velerios View Post
    No, i'm just angry that there are so many naiive people who takes this leak so seriously since the OP managed to use the right title. But this "Leak" is so badly done that i can't understand how people fall for it. No wonder that so many people fall for this "Microsoft Support"-Scam, because they are too gullible.
    You're angry? Really. Jesus christ, it's just a leak for a video game... Let people believe it until a couple weeks we will know for sure. Don't let it keep you up a night.

  13. #593
    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    I wasn't talking about the OP.
    The other guy was also lucky. Or so I'm told.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobJohn View Post
    Scaling doesn’t make sense when you’re gaining levels. If people want to get on the scaling band wagon (I don’t think scaling is right for the WoW I want, but that’s irrelevant since we have classic) just remove levels.
    Scaling allows you to actually finish zone stories which will always be the superior experience. Even removing levels won't fix the problem you say exists because it will just shift to item level earlier in the process instead of at max level.
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    It would be funny if even the name was proven wrong but..... I doubt it.
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  16. #596
    Quote Originally Posted by Soulwind View Post
    The other guy was also lucky. Or so I'm told.
    Yup, I concur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    The whole point of an RPG is to get punished because you out level content?
    What? How do you get punished, when the mobs stay the same level? You are becoming stronger. The mobs are now easier to kill.

    You're punishing people if you scale mobs up with them, because then you're invalidating their level gain. They might as well just not have leveled up at all, because everything stays the same.

    So you have it completely backwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lana Alan View Post
    What? How do you get punished, when the mobs stay the same level? You are becoming stronger. The mobs are now easier to kill.
    I see you've never had to change zones because all the quests were grey and reward no experience. Or get reduced experience because they are green versus yellow/orange. Scaling eliminates that because the content stays relevant to your level.
    "Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    I see you've never had to change zones because all the quests were grey and reward no experience. Or get reduced experience because they are green versus yellow/orange. Scaling eliminates that because the content stays relevant to your level.
    That was never a problem back in Classic. It's a problem of the Cataclysm revamp. They screwed up the entire leveling and questing experience with it. Scaling makes it worse. And if you really so desperately wanna see the entirety of a zone, you can easily do that if you avoid dungeons. But you probably don't even care cause you've seen it all tons of times over the years. And it's not that good anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Scaling allows you to actually finish zone stories which will always be the superior experience. Even removing levels won't fix the problem you say exists because it will just shift to item level earlier in the process instead of at max level.
    It’s already about iLevel, even at level 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    I see you've never had to change zones because all the quests were grey and reward no experience. Or get reduced experience because they are green versus yellow/orange. Scaling eliminates that because the content stays relevant to your level.
    It’s like any medication. Blizz gave us a pill to solve for story issues/Grey quests, but then the side effects came: lack of power progression, invalidation of levels, scaling issues that they can’t/won’t fix , and a further removal from any semblance of RPG traits WoW had in the first place (which was not much, but was the reason for its massive popularity)

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