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  1. #181
    Quote Originally Posted by Skytotem View Post
    I really like the idea of Moira seeking to combine the Dark Irons industrial techniques with Gilneas, while Kurdran works with Danath to strengthen ties between Stromgarde and the Wildhammer.
    Could also have something with the Dark Irons working with the Draenei and Broken shaman, get the Wildhammers interacting with the Night elf Hippogriff riders...so many options!

  2. #182
    To me the Alliance need more interesting races. Someone in a post said it correctly, they are all just different variations of humans basically.

    -Worgens are cool, but Transmog looks wonky on them, and some of their animations kill me.
    -Bigger humans (kul'Tiran) once again, I'm not a huge fan of transmog on them and to me (some like it) they are just too massive without being able to make them more muscular?
    -Gnomes are smaller humans
    -Dwarfs are just medium thick humans
    -Draenie, well I do like the female model, but something about the male model that is just strange to me, kind of like male NE.

    I personally love playing ally, but all my friends hate it. they want to play a game and escape and playing human races, to them, just doesn't cut it I guess.

  3. #183
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skytotem View Post

    They could've at least had him defend Horde civilians during the Alliance's attack on Dazar'alor... but they couldn't even be bothered to have him do anything there.
    Not only this, he also rushed to a mourning Talanji to recommend her to surrender to the Alliance - right after they had killed Rastakhan, none the less.

  4. #184
    Quote Originally Posted by Skytotem View Post
    I really like the idea of Moira seeking to combine the Dark Irons industrial techniques with Gilneas, while Kurdran works with Danath to strengthen ties between Stromgarde and the Wildhammer.
    That would require the Alliance to actually care about anything other than Anduin & the Superfriends with an occasional crossover into Tyrande's Anger Management Class.

  5. #185
    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    Not only this, he also rushed to a mourning Talanji to recommend her to surrender to the Alliance - right after they had killed Rastakhan, none the less.
    Or back in reality, he advised that to Sylvie when Danuser... sorry, Nathanos... told her the Alliance was winning on all fronts and was going to crush their forces.

    Unforgiveable. The official policy of the Horde has always been "No lives matter, not even ours."
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    "Orc want, orc take." and "Orc dissagrees, orc kill you to win argument."
    Quote Originally Posted by Toho View Post
    The Horde is basically the guy that gets mad that the guy that they just beat the crap out of had the audacity to bleed on them.
    Why no, people don't just like Sylvie for T&A: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ery-Cinematic/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanoro View Post
    Or back in reality, he advised that to Sylvie when Danuser... sorry, Nathanos... told her the Alliance was winning on all fronts and was going to crush their forces.

    Unforgiveable. The official policy of the Horde has always been "No lives matter, not even ours."
    Sure, but the moment he chose to suggest surrender proves that he's a shit politician, but since he's an Alliance character (even if he is tagged incorrectly) it means that he must be right, mustn't he?

  7. #187
    Give them their turn at the villain bat. Fascist Turalyon light dictator. Go.
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    She lost against Arthas for purpose. She wanted to feed Quel'thalas to hungering darkness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kansor View Post
    Give them their turn at the villain bat. Fascist Turalyon light dictator. Go.
    Fully agreed. Ally fans are always complaining about Horde getting all the Narrative Focus™, let's see how they like it when it's their turn

  9. #189
    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    Fully agreed. Ally fans are always complaining about Horde getting all the Narrative Focus™, let's see how they like it when it's their turn
    If we get to genocide your races, beat you up and throw you out of your holy places and homes like cold, desperate mongrels then losing Turalyon TWO expansions later when GENN gets to defeat him is okay.

  10. #190
    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    Sure, but the moment he chose to suggest surrender proves that he's a shit politician, but since he's an Alliance character (even if he is tagged incorrectly) it means that he must be right, mustn't he?
    If he was an Alliance character, he'd be licking Horde boots, encouraging them to fight and kill more Alliance forces, and worrying about their feelings. You know, like High King Dipshit II.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex86el View Post
    "Orc want, orc take." and "Orc dissagrees, orc kill you to win argument."
    Quote Originally Posted by Toho View Post
    The Horde is basically the guy that gets mad that the guy that they just beat the crap out of had the audacity to bleed on them.
    Why no, people don't just like Sylvie for T&A: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ery-Cinematic/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanoro View Post
    If he was an Alliance character, he'd be licking Horde boots, encouraging them to fight and kill more Alliance forces, and worrying about their feelings. You know, like High King Dipshit II.
    If anything, the only bootlicker in the Alliance side is High King Gary Stu, and even that is arguable. The rest of the Alliance cast aren't bootlickers, but rather suffer from plot-induced amnesia - which is also #@$&ty, don't get me wrong, but still different from bootlicking.

    Besides, if the rumours are true, Our Treasure will be taking a sort of sabbatical year in the SL during 10.0, so the Alliance will finally be free from that burden, if only temporarily. I only wish we Hordies could say the same about Baine the human footstool and Thrall Sue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VladlTutushkin View Post
    If we get to genocide your races, beat you up and throw you out of your holy places and homes like cold, desperate mongrels then losing Turalyon TWO expansions later when GENN gets to defeat him is okay.
    Really? I didn't know that Sylv had remained Warchief two expacs after Teldrassil. Man, those psychic powers of yours...

  12. #192
    Quote Originally Posted by VladlTutushkin View Post
    If we get to genocide your races, beat you up and throw you out of your holy places and homes like cold, desperate mongrels then losing Turalyon TWO expansions later when GENN gets to defeat him is okay.
    Other than that the Kaldorei will be able to freely attack any Horde territory in Kalimndor and take it without suffering any punishment. Because in the end it's all Turalyon's fault.

  13. #193
    I just want more faction war that's like Silverpine, except that Alliance get to quest through it as well. Silverpine, and to a lesser extent the Southern Barrens, is the gold standard for faction war stories.

  14. #194
    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    If anything, the only bootlicker in the Alliance side is High King Gary Stu, and even that is arguable. The rest of the Alliance cast aren't bootlickers, but rather suffer from plot-induced amnesia - which is also #@$&ty, don't get me wrong, but still different from bootlicking.

    Besides, if the rumours are true, Our Treasure will be taking a sort of sabbatical year in the SL during 10.0, so the Alliance will finally be free from that burden, if only temporarily. I only wish we Hordies could say the same about Baine the human footstool and Thrall Sue.
    True, at the moment, the Horde bootlicking is concentrated in Dipshit II, but that mantle can and has been worn by others. Jaina infamously held the role for a while (along with the bizarre screwup of making her Alliance) and no doubt you recall the jokes that she was riding Thrall, leading to being the Horde's PR director. It doesn't matter who holds the role though, it WILL be there. The message to the Alliance for more than twenty years is "If you fight back, you're as bad as them" or perhaps and more damningly "Victims shouldn't seek justice."
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex86el View Post
    "Orc want, orc take." and "Orc dissagrees, orc kill you to win argument."
    Quote Originally Posted by Toho View Post
    The Horde is basically the guy that gets mad that the guy that they just beat the crap out of had the audacity to bleed on them.
    Why no, people don't just like Sylvie for T&A: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ery-Cinematic/

  15. #195
    I have always thought that the Arrakoas would have fit well in the Alliance, and could have become an additionnal stronghold for the Alliance in Kalimdor with them settling in the Stonetalon Mountains or Feralas.

  16. #196
    I thought the developers said there wasn't going to be anymore faction war given how poorly the last one was received. And now with cross-faction play is coming.

  17. #197
    Quote Originally Posted by Mungho View Post
    I thought the developers said there wasn't going to be anymore faction war given how poorly the last one was received. And now with cross-faction play is coming.
    Developers lie
    Twas brillig

  18. #198
    Cross-faction is the only way to salvage the alliance playerbase, unless blizz did something drastic like gutting every horde racial so alliance racials were clearly superior. Even then, they'd have to hold that position for years to undo the damage that's been caused so far.

  19. #199
    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    If anything, the only bootlicker in the Alliance side is High King Gary Stu, and even that is arguable. The rest of the Alliance cast aren't bootlickers, but rather suffer from plot-induced amnesia - which is also #@$&ty, don't get me wrong, but still different from bootlicking.

    Besides, if the rumours are true, Our Treasure will be taking a sort of sabbatical year in the SL during 10.0, so the Alliance will finally be free from that burden, if only temporarily. I only wish we Hordies could say the same about Baine the human footstool and Thrall Sue.

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    Really? I didn't know that Sylv had remained Warchief two expacs after Teldrassil. Man, those psychic powers of yours...
    Her “crusade” started in Cata, where she was almost in competition with Garrosh on “who will commit more war crimes” and she won by a large margin. Also Garrosh was not dead until WoD and he went apeshit in Cata and Pandaria.

  20. #200
    Quote Originally Posted by Razion View Post
    I think the best thing that could happen to make the Alliance more appealing to Horde players is the Curse of Flesh wearing off - causing Humans to become Vrykul, Dwarves to become Earthen, and Gnomes to become proper Mechagnomes.
    That might actually, in fact, be really interesting. Or they could join the Alliance as "allied races", while ogres, naga and san'layn join the Horde as opposing allied races.
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    "You see, there is balance in all things. Wisdom etched in our very fur: Black and white. Darkness and light. When the last emperor hid our land from the rest of the world, he also preserved...our ancient enemy, the mantid. So it is with your Alliance and your Horde. They are not strong despite one another; they are strong BECAUSE of one another. You mistake your greatest strength for weakness. Do you see this?"

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