1. #3021
    So I missed most of today's progress and just tuned in now. Can someone tell me why Limit are not trying to learn p4 at all? Are they so confindent that they don't need any practice there or what? Echo seem to practice a lot on p4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mspy View Post
    They only swapped scot and trill no?
    It's Saturday, it's not like many people have to work on a Saturday so unless an emergency hits one of the raiders they should be good until Monday at least.
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  3. #3023
    Quote Originally Posted by Varolyn View Post
    Mortal Wounds worked on Fetid Devourer back in Uldir, so it wouldn't be the first time that this debuff works on a boss.
    Uhh yea, intended to work on mechanics like that. Not intended to skip half an entire half of a phase on what is just supposed to be a heal to a set %. You think it would of been intended for it to work on say Argus who had a similar heal up mechanic when the mythic phase triggered? lol..........
    Last edited by Tech614; 2022-03-26 at 08:08 PM.

  4. #3024
    Quote Originally Posted by mspy View Post
    Why would it not be indented if the spell is working like it says it works?
    There are some stuff that bosses are immune to, sure, but if I'm not mistaken healing reducing spells have worked on some bosses in the past.
    Sure, but this would pretty much made arms warrior mandatory and you know "bring the player, not the class"....

  5. #3025
    Quote Originally Posted by SoLoR1 View Post
    Sure, but this would pretty much made arms warrior mandatory and you know "bring the player, not the class"....
    There are other classes with healing reductions spells, rogue, warlock, etc can't say if any of them are working as well on the Jailer, one thing I know now is that they are not supposed to stack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Yes im sure its intended for a single debuff to skip half of the phase
    Testing spec debuffs against a boss is literally the easiest thing to do as well as it is on the checklists. Its not the first boss that heals.

    Very much doubt it is not intended, could be wrong but highly doubt it.
    It is further supported by the fact the boss is in execute range in that phase. BLZ forgot about the possibility of warriors taking many spots just cos of that too?

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  7. #3027
    liquid not even close to the damage required to get the boss in p4

    need to change p2 strat and lust in phase 1. this is the definition of insanity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakis View Post
    Testing spec debuffs against a boss is literally the easiest thing to do as well as it is on the checklists. Its not the first boss that heals.

    Very much doubt it is not intended, could be wrong but highly doubt it.
    It is further supported by the fact the boss is in execute range in that phase. BLZ forgot about the possibility of warriors taking many spots just cos of that too?

    Nah
    Rememeber when blizz tested mythic kj with 1000 ilvl and invincibilty on and thought the fight was good to go? I remember

  9. #3029
    95k people watching Echo. The hype is real.

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    The mood between both guilds could not be more different, and it must kill Liquid not only to know Echo are close, but they are awake and streaming versus going to bed and wondering if they'll wake up to the boss being dead.

    The Echo guys are smiling and laughing and Liquid haven't even come close to P4, don't think they have even managed to clear all the torment adds. Boss seems to be around 20% when they take the gateway and cross.

  11. #3031
    Quote Originally Posted by Bakis View Post
    Testing spec debuffs against a boss is literally the easiest thing to do as well as it is on the checklists. Its not the first boss that heals.

    Very much doubt it is not intended, could be wrong but highly doubt it.
    It is further supported by the fact the boss is in execute range in that phase. BLZ forgot about the possibility of warriors taking many spots just cos of that too?

    Nah
    Even if it was not intended I doubt they would hotfix anything at this point, as it stands now it would actually look better for Blizzard if it was intended and if not just say it was an unintended good thing because this is not like skipping a groundbreaking mechanic it is just reducing the heal of the boss by 5% which makes me think by doing the math if it is actually because of an healing debuff (the math doesn't quite match) or Blizzard just nerfed the heal themselves.

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    Blizzard would have already stepped in if it wasn't intended or at least tolerated.

  13. #3033
    Quote Originally Posted by Clozer View Post
    Blizzard would have already stepped in if it wasn't intended or at least tolerated.
    Ah yes, blizzard would of been on the ball to already step in and do something about it at 1 pm on a saturday. Meanwhile they are barely on the ball to hot fix stuff even during a weekday.

  14. #3034
    RaiderIO seems to have it covered

    We have a new theory that makes a lot of sense when it comes to the Jailer health "changes", as we got word from a mysterious stranger on discord that could explain everything. It seems the Jailer's healing the whole time was 20% lower due to Warlock's Felguards having a minor MS effect - Legion Strike. So we never really saw the Jailer fully healing, and the recent changes were the difference between the 20% we always saw and the full 50% of an Arms Warrior's Mortal Strike.

    And so the 24.4% was WITH the 20% Warlock debuff. while the current 19% is with the Arms MS one.
    If right, seems all healing debuffs should be working on this boss, doubt they would overlook something like this if it was not intended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Rememeber when blizz tested mythic kj with 1000 ilvl and invincibilty on and thought the fight was good to go? I remember
    You had a point somewhere there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Ah yes, blizzard would of been on the ball to already step in and do something about it at 1 pm on a saturday. Meanwhile they are barely on the ball to hot fix stuff even during a weekday.
    It's not about a hotfix.. One dev could simply whisper and tell them not to do it. Like they already did multiple times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clozer View Post
    It's not about a hotfix.. One dev could simply whisper and tell them not to do it. Like they already did multiple times.
    You mean like when they whispered max to not root the add and they still did it anyways and blizzard didn't do shit and ended up not changing fight? Yawn.

    Stop acting like blizzard is ever cohesive or on the ball with stuff like this. Thinking it's intended for a 25% phase to have 6% shaved off by bringing a warrior is some top tier copium friend. It's clearly not intended, and it's also likely blizzard doesn't do jack about it this reset. Both are true.
    Last edited by Tech614; 2022-03-26 at 08:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mspy View Post
    Even if it was not intended I doubt they would hotfix anything at this point, as it stands now it would actually look better for Blizzard if it was intended and if not just say it was an unintended good thing because this is not like skipping a groundbreaking mechanic it is just reducing the heal of the boss by 5% which makes me think by doing the math if it is actually because of an healing debuff (the math doesn't quite match) or Blizzard just nerfed the heal themselves.
    Dont think they would either. The points you mention as well as the raiders (except Echo, but for how long) are pretty exhausted by now not to mention viewers which the entire WFR rely on surely are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Ah yes, blizzard would of been on the ball to already step in and do something about it at 1 pm on a saturday. Meanwhile they are barely on the ball to hot fix stuff even during a weekday.
    They hotfixed an Echo strat on mythic Sylvanas at like 4am US or something like that just after a couple pulls from Echo.
    Last edited by mspy; 2022-03-26 at 08:37 PM.

  20. #3040
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    You mean like when they whispered max to not root the add and they still did it anyways and blizzard didn't do shit and ended up not changing fight? Yawn.

    Stop acting like blizzard is ever cohesive or on the ball with stuff like this. Thinking it's intended for a 25% phase to have 6% shaved off by bringing a warrior is some top tier copium friend.
    They reduced the healing throughout the week 3 times via hotfixes, it was never intended like this in the first place.

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