Patch 2.5.4 - Wrath of the Lich King Classic Interface Files

[Lahis]

There's already plenty of 3.3.5a servers

As there were plenty of 1.12 and 2.4 servers.

[Mendzia]

Yeah, that's going to be absolute shit, especially as most servers are 1 sided. They should just make it a BG with a 3 hour cooldown to queue.

I agree.
I have no idea how they will handle Wintergrasps.
This will probably suck alot... but luckily i never cared about PvP at all in this game.

Definitely .. just look at how TBC is doing ... 17k guilds raiding t6? that's literally like no one is playing.

17k guilds raiding in T6... that care enough for upload their logs.
It is roughly same amount like Naxx guilds: https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zon...etric=progress
It is roughly same amount that retail guilds killed atleast one boss on HC last tier (it is based on achievements not logs uploaded by people): https://www.wowprogress.com/rating.tier28

Of course there are many dead servers already due Blizzard handling the situation in shitty way.

[kranur]

I agree.
17k guilds raiding in T6... that care enough for upload their logs.
It is roughly same amount like Naxx guilds: https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zon...etric=progress
It is roughly same amount that retail guilds killed atleast one boss on HC last tier (it is based on achievements not logs uploaded by people): https://www.wowprogress.com/rating.tier28

Of course there are many dead servers already due Blizzard handling the situation in shitty way.

Yup, well I chose to put actual data instead of "speculation" to not feed the haters. There are obviously plenty other people doing PVP exclusively, pugging or not doing any of them seriously, just chilling.

Dead servers .. that's totally on blizz for letting it get out of hand ... there are servers with over 20k people that are included in logs ... and Firemaw at 34k ... that is insane, that's like 4+ servers congested into a single one.

[kizzor]

Can't wait for wrath classic! In retail i level every character in northrend and on my main i still visit northrend frequently

[exsanguinate]

Yeah, that's going to be absolute shit, especially as most servers are 1 sided. They should just make it a BG with a 3 hour cooldown to queue.

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Definitely .. just look at how TBC is doing ... 17k guilds raiding t6? that's literally like no one is playing.

Proof it please

[Romanthony]

Well we all knew it was coming eventually, and i hope they stop there, that, its the end of the "Classic" severs because Wrath was the peak Please dont go into Cata and beyond

[McNeil]

Danuser: everyone must forget the name Arthas Menethil

*WotLK Classic gets released*

Arthas: I’m back baby!

Also I expect WotLK will be a lot more popular than SL at the time it releases

[Rayaleith]

Can't wait to play Wotlk. TBC got too boring and too tedious pretty quickly.

No offence but you will say the same after some months into WotLK

[furydeath]

Can't wait to play Wotlk. TBC got too boring and too tedious pretty quickly.

thats what you all said about classic gong to TBC guess whats happens in WOTLK now

[Runstarr]

There's already plenty of 3.3.5a servers

that have major bugs not fixed after years and paper devs

[Shockzalot]

Can't wait to play Wotlk. TBC got too boring and too tedious pretty quickly.

You expect WOTLK to be any different? Factions are too one sided for Wintergrasp. WOTLK is daily quests galore. The first raid tier will be a complete and total snooze fest. The only thing that will be fun about WOTLK is the leveling experience, then it'll be exactly the same as the first phase of TBC.

[ablib]

All the people saying Wrath was no different than BC. What? Did you not play then? Or is old age setting in? Vanilla and BC were nearly identical, it was Wrath is when the game started to dramatically change by becoming more accessible. I think this is one of the reasons why Wrath was so fondly remembered.

And no, LFG cannot be in day one, as it would taint the experience. By the time LFG came out in 3.3, Wrath dungeons were AOE snoozefests, making the random LFG pug work. But at Wrath release, the dungeons weren't complete snoozefests. If LFG was released at the beginning of Wrath, everyone is going to be like WTF, this isn't Wrath, as the dungeon experience would seem more like Cata.

[Razorice]

All the people saying Wrath was no different than BC. What? Did you not play then? Or is old age setting in? Vanilla and BC were nearly identical, it was Wrath is when the game started to dramatically change by becoming more accessible. I think this is one of the reasons why Wrath was so fondly remembered.

And no, LFG cannot be in day one, as it would taint the experience. By the time LFG came out in 3.3, Wrath dungeons were AOE snoozefests, making the random LFG pug work. But at Wrath release, the dungeons weren't complete snoozefests. If LFG was released at the beginning of Wrath, everyone is going to be like WTF, this isn't Wrath, as the dungeon experience would seem more like Cata.

Yeah, I don't want LFG tool at launch.

[Exkrementor]

There's already plenty of 3.3.5a servers

Yeah, and they are buggy as hell and the owners are greedy little piglets selling mounts for 200 dollars. Also they buff the raids and dont even test them.

[Souflikar]

The timing of this is. Hilarious.

Right? Blizzard has impeccable timing and a weird sense of humor

[Zyrinx]

The timing of this is. Hilarious.

Was thinking exactly this lol

[voidillusion]

Yeah, I don't want LFG tool at launch.

I used to be pretty purist about this, but in all honesty, seing as degenerate the leveling has become in Classic and Classic TBC, where you pretty much either solo quest/grind up to 60 or pretty much get boosted throughout by a max lvl char, mostly paid, i am now at a point where i do want LFG tool, specially for low lvl dungeons.

[kranur]

Yeah, I don't want LFG tool at launch.

Honestly, LFG will bring a lot of value if they, initially, make it available only below lvl 68 or 70 and for non-wrath instances.
Instead of boosting all around, we may actually see people doing dungeons again.

[glowpipe]

How about they start to focus on the real game before its too late? Instead of wasting all the time, money and effort into these short lasting milking schemes. We don't need to replay every expansion. We need new meaningfull ones

[vincink]

All the best for wotlk fans.

But don't be too disappointed if you might realize that the xpac was actually not very good.

WOTLK is my favorite expansion-- and I will play the ever living s**t out of it-- but also the one I remember getting very bored of after about 6 months. On the flip side, not all that long ago it was possible to play up through WOTLK content in retail and get very nearly the same experience. However, with recent system changes (esp. to leveling), WOTLK content in retail has become forgettable. So I am looking forward to WOTLK Classic all in all.