2022-2023 NFL Thread

[draynay]

Derwin James tapping his shoulder after he helmet speared a dude, but he might just be confused after concussing himself.

[eschatological]

Man, watching this game just reminds me and makes me nervous for the next MNF game: Bills at Bengals. Huge game for both teams, we can swing from 1 to 3rd seed with a loss, Bengals can end up anywhere between 2nd and 5th seeds.

[Pendulous]

JJ Watt is retiring https://www.instagram.com/p/CmrU3huL...YmMyMTA2M2Y%3D

Dude's been doing great lately on the field too. He'll always be one of the most dominant pass rushers of this generation. It's little bro's time now.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

And that's the end of Derek Carr in Vegas, benched (all the way to 3rd string) for the final 2 games of the season.

And probably the next veteran reclamation project in Indy.

[Grube]

I didn't even know who the Raider's backup was this year. Turns out it's Stidham. Makes me surprised it took this long. The first thing McDaniels did when he went to Denver was try to get Matt Cassel.

[Kyanion]

Yeah Las Vegas can cut Carr within 3 days of the Super Bowl and the cap hit is like 5.6 mil. But if he got injured in the next two games that contract is fully guaranteed.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Yeah Las Vegas can cut Carr within 3 days of the Super Bowl and the cap hit is like 5.6 mil. But if he got injured in the next two games that contract is fully guaranteed.

Yeah this is a "we're cutting you day after the Super Bowl" move. Don't know who they think they're getting, but I'm willing to wager they think it's re-uniting Tom Brady with Josh McDaniels.

[Vetali]

Jim Irsay is foaming at the mouth to get Carr when hes inevitably released.

[ProphetFlume]

Would Carr want to go to Indy? They were an attractive prospect for a FA qb the previous few years because of a solid O line and offensive talent, but now they’re a mess one step from rebuild.

[draynay]

Would Carr want to go to Indy? They were an attractive prospect for a FA qb the previous few years because of a solid O line and offensive talent, but now they’re a mess one step from rebuild.

Nobody even knows who their head coach will be. Too soon to say whether it will be a good place to go.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

The issue with Carr is they just paid him too much. Josh Allen is getting 43 million, and Carr is getting 40. That's a bad deal.

My hope is that moves like this bode well for the Giants' negotiations with Daniel Jones. Way too many teams just pay their qb top dollar regardless who it is - middle class teams need to start trying to give their guys less.

Kirk Cousins scared the NFL into overpaying and early paying. Hopefully the current glut of resoundingly average QBs and proliferation of schemes designed to get them easy completions will mean teams are more likely to let QBs walk after the Tag.

Or Matt Ryan and Russell Wilson will scare them back into it.

[Northern Goblin]

The Raiders also had gone some 12 years with a carousel of poor to awful QBs post Gannon, so Carr coming along with an above average competence meant they valued the stability he brought.

However, he's inconsistent as hell now, and there's no signs he'll recreate that 2016 season. Best for him and Vegas to move on.

[draynay]

The Raiders also had gone some 12 years with a carousel of poor to awful QBs post Gannon, so Carr coming along with an above average competence meant they valued the stability he brought.

However, he's inconsistent as hell now, and there's no signs he'll recreate that 2016 season. Best for him and Vegas to move on.

He'll be better off escaping an offense led by the man who took Tebow in the first round.

[Northern Goblin]

He'll be better off escaping an offense led by the man who took Tebow in the first round.

He'll probably go to the Colts, be dubbed the Indy 500 Carr and win a division and go on a playoff run.

Least they can do after they ended his best season with that leg breaker. I like the guy, but both he and the Raiders need something different.

Not sold on McD either, some of the play calling has been tragic.

[Grube]

The Colts should take Russell Wilson instead of Carr.

Actually, Carr for Wilson sounds like a good deal too.

[Northern Goblin]

It's no secret that the defence has been garbage for the last two decades. Carr in his best seasons has pretty much won straight shootouts week after week.

But he's also had an inconsistency where games where the defence stepped up he couldn't get the job done. It's not entirely his fault either, but the guy is on the hook for big money in the upcoming few years, I can see why they'd want to do over and try to rebuild.... again.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

It's no secret that the defence has been garbage for the last two decades. Carr in his best seasons has pretty much won straight shootouts week after week.

But he's also had an inconsistency where games where the defence stepped up he couldn't get the job done. It's not entirely his fault either, but the guy is on the hook for big money in the upcoming few years, I can see why they'd want to do over and try to rebuild.... again.

Carr's definitely in that glut of "good enough" QBs the NFL has now. His best is good enough to get you to the playoffs, his worst is what we're seeing now, and no matter what he will never be in that elite tier of "guys who can win a Super Bowl with okay supporting talent." He's the okay talent you need a great defense and great running game or a great coach to go all the way with.

[VMSmith]

Carr's definitely in that glut of "good enough" QBs the NFL has now. His best is good enough to get you to the playoffs, his worst is what we're seeing now, and no matter what he will never be in that elite tier of "guys who can win a Super Bowl with okay supporting talent." He's the okay talent you need a great defense and great running game or a great coach to go all the way with.

Matthew Stafford proved you can win a Super Bowl with a mediocre QB, so long as the surrounding talent can carry them. Why the Raiders didn't try to recreate the Rams strategy of "throw the ball to Kupp every play" with Adams is baffling, after seeing how well it worked last season.

Paying an elite QB big bucks without a good team around them is a fool's errand. I would say to look at Arizona for an example, but I don't believe Murray is an elite QB in any sense of the word other than his contract.

[Grube]

Malik Willis benched already. You'd think they would have ran an offense that took advantage of his athleticism instead of making him throw, but Todd Downing.

[eschatological]

Malik Willis benched already. You'd think they would have ran an offense that took advantage of his athleticism instead of making him throw, but Todd Downing.

I think they're doing it because of a weird quirk of the math. The Titans can't get in with a WC, so the only game that matters is next week, week 18, for the division against Jacksonville. They're resting like a third of their starters. Which includes Malik, since Tannehill seems to be toast unless the Titans are going to the SB.