2022-2023 NFL Thread

[eschatological]

What would the implications be if they just gave them a tie?

Playoff wise? KC would move up to the #1 seed, Bills to the #2.

Anyways, Bills confirm that Hamlin had cardiac arrest on the hit, and had to have his heart restarted on the field via CPR. He's still considered in critical condition.

https://twitter.com/BuffaloBills/sta...66228559052801

[Tech614]

What would the implications be if they just gave them a tie?

If they give them a tie or don't count the game, Chiefs get the #1 seed with a win against raiders and Bills lock in the 2 seed at worse but could still get 1st with a Chiefs loss. Bengals would be 3rd seed regardless.

If they give the Bengals the win, Chiefs still get the #1 seed with a win against raiders, Bengals can get #1 seed with a Chiefs loss and their win, Bills would need both to lose to get #1 seed.

It's unfortunate the game has such heavy playoff implications on it but tbh there is no way to replay it and no team should be given a win for 1 quarter of play so it really just shouldn't count imo.

[postman1782]

Well Hamlin apparently had a gofundme for a toy drive in 2020 that was set up. People found it and at this moment it has 900k donated. Will probably surpass a million tonight. Thought that was a nice thing to see among all this.

Just saw a tweet as of writing this post, it is now past 3 million.

[NotBigzo]

Money could've been well speant if it went directly to him and his family. He could very well neve play again, wasn't a high draft pick, and was on his rookie contract.

i'd Hate that the $$$ is instead lining some non-profit exec's pocket.

[eschatological]

Money could've been well speant if it went directly to him and his family. He could very well neve play again, wasn't a high draft pick, and was on his rookie contract.

i'd Hate that the $$$ is instead lining some non-profit exec's pocket.

It was a GoFundMe Damar set up himself. The goal was $2500 to purchase toys for kids for Christmas. Like you noted, he was a 6th round draft pick on a rookie contract (only in his second year), so he probably doesn't have his own foundation set up or anything.

[Hansworst]

Wouldn't necessarily have to mean end of career does it? In soccer there are a few players still active who had an cardiac arrest.
That is if he recovers ofcourse.

[Darththeo]

Wouldn't necessarily have to mean end of career does it? In soccer there are a few players still active who had an cardiac arrest.
That is if he recovers ofcourse.

Depends on how bad it is.

[SpaghettiMonk]

Heartbeat back to normal obviously good, but the scary part is the "not breathing on his own" news. This could mean brain damage, but again, too early to say and I'm not a medical expert so I'll avoid speculating further.

[NotBigzo]

If they give them a tie or don't count the game, Chiefs get the #1 seed with a win against raiders and Bills lock in the 2 seed at worse but could still get 1st with a Chiefs loss. Bengals would be 3rd seed regardless.

If they give the Bengals the win, Chiefs still get the #1 seed with a win against raiders, Bengals can get #1 seed with a Chiefs loss and their win, Bills would need both to lose to get #1 seed.

It's unfortunate the game has such heavy playoff implications on it but tbh there is no way to replay it and no team should be given a win for 1 quarter of play so it really just shouldn't count imo.

Proposal:

Declare a tie or no contest, but when the Bengals and Bills inevitably play later in the post season, Bills MUST come to Cincinatti regardless of seeding.
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Cheifs are the losers here because they'd be denied the number one seed unless BUffalo loses to NE. But they lost to BOTH Cincy and Buffalo in the regular season. Fuck em.

Ravens and Pats still get the playoff altering games this sunday.

Bengals lose out the top two seeds, but would still get the advantage over Buffalo they earned in half a quarter of play.


There's really no outcome that doesn't piss off one or more stakeholders. That's the best I got.

I'll be more willing to discuss this further when we get the news that Damar is gonna make it.

I'm supposed to be working right now but can't. Couuldn't sleep at all last night.

Right now, i'm not even sure if i'll look at football the same ever again.

[Vetali]

Wouldn't necessarily have to mean end of career does it? In soccer there are a few players still active who had an cardiac arrest.
That is if he recovers ofcourse.

Assuming theres no underlying condition and he makes a full recovery, he could play again. There was a hockey player that had something similar happen to him in the 80s or sometime around there. Went on to play 6 more years and became a HOF player.

The insane thing for me is just how routine the play was. I left the TV and went to the bathroom right after the tackle. Came back and saw the medical team huddled around. Had to look at twitter for a replay.

[draynay]

Wouldn't necessarily have to mean end of career does it? In soccer there are a few players still active who had an cardiac arrest.
That is if he recovers ofcourse.

If they discover a previously undiagnosed heart condition then that would be enough, but its still too early for these concerns.

[VMSmith]

What would the implications be if they just gave them a tie?

I don't know that the NFL would consider this, but week 17 is Championship week for fantasy football, which has a very very LOT of money involved and helps fuel the popularity of the NFL. On top of that, this game was vital to fantasy football considering the teams involved.

They may not like it, but fantasy football considerations are something that has to be kept in mind when they decide what to do, and just giving each team a tie would not address that concern at all.

[draynay]

I don't know that the NFL would consider this, but week 17 is Championship week for fantasy football, which has a very very LOT of money involved and helps fuel the popularity of the NFL. On top of that, this game was vital to fantasy football considering the teams involved.

They may not like it, but fantasy football considerations are something that has to be kept in mind when they decide what to do, and just giving each team a tie would not address that concern at all.

I didn't think there was a way for me to care less but you found it.

[SpaghettiMonk]

From latest updates they say he was awake before they sedated him which is great news obviously, but still very little info (which is fine, they are presumably keeping him sedated for medical reasons and we just have to wait).

[eschatological]

I can't even work today. In May Buffalo had a white supremacist shoot up a black grocery store killing 10 people, last weekend we had 40 people die in a blizzard, and last night we had one of our players have a heart attack and literally needed to be resuscitated on the field. It's been a weird fucking season.

[Osmeric]

Heartbeat back to normal obviously good, but the scary part is the "not breathing on his own" news. This could mean brain damage, but again, too early to say and I'm not a medical expert so I'll avoid speculating further.

That may just mean he's under the protocol used for potential anoxic brain injury, where the patient is sedated, intubated, and the body temperature reduced to allow marginally damaged parts of the brain to recover somewhat.

[NotBigzo]

I can't even work today. In May Buffalo had a white supremacist shoot up a black grocery store killing 10 people, last weekend we had 40 people die in a blizzard, and last night we had one of our players have a heart attack and literally needed to be resuscitated on the field. It's been a weird fucking season.

Shit just hits different man.

I didn't actually fall asleep until 3 AM this morning. I've tried but I just can't muster the will to care about doing anything today.

Work? Nah. WoW keys? Nah.

The only thing i've managed to actually do today is arranged my first doctor's physical since I was 17 playing HS sports (i'm 30) and call all my family and friends to see how they're doing.

I'm a fucking husk of myself bro and I can't even explain why this shit hits so different.

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I don't know that the NFL would consider this, but week 17 is Championship week for fantasy football, which has a very very LOT of money involved and helps fuel the popularity of the NFL. On top of that, this game was vital to fantasy football considering the teams involved.

They may not like it, but fantasy football considerations are something that has to be kept in mind when they decide what to do, and just giving each team a tie would not address that concern at all.

Gambling comes in inherent risks. Just tell those stakeholders to hold whatever L comes with whatever they decide to do.

[eschatological]

yeah honestly if you (general you, not specific) are more concerned about the money to be earned/lost via gambling or fantasy over a player having a heart attack on the field, your priorities are out of whack and you may have a gambling problem if the results put you in financial straits.

[SinR]

yeah honestly if you (general you, not specific) are more concerned about the money to be earned/lost via gambling or fantasy over a player having a heart attack on the field, your priorities are out of whack and you may have a gambling problem if the results put you in financial straits.

Agreed. Human Life is much more important than 20 bucks on your Fantasy League

[Tech614]

Anyone worried about their fantasy leagues over this should probably stop playing fantasy football as they obviously have an unhealthy obsession with it.