Poll: Do you want LFD to be kept in the Classic release of Wrath of the Lich King?

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  1. #61
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    Yes of course, this is the only way to fight current boosting meta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dev'olution View Post
    "Dungeon Finder is the "Looking for Dungeon" (LFD) system Blizzard introduced in patch 3.3.0. It was made the default mode of the Dungeon Finder window and integrated with the Raid Finder and Scenario Finder in Patch 5.0.4. It is only used for 5-man dungeons, not raids or groups in general for high-level quests. The Dungeon Finder selects players to form a party from all servers in the battlegroup of the current realm, so there need not be a full group of players on one specific realm."

    https://wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Dungeon_Finder

    You were matched by battlegroup as recent as 5.0.4
    Yes, but to the original point, I think The-Shan was talking specifically about its implementation in Wrath of the Lich King. Yes, you're saying that it was Battlegroup in 5.04, which would have been the MoP pre patch, but I do think at one point it was only server wide.

  3. #63
    If they are putting it in at all they might as well put it in at the start. Will make alts more enjoyable.

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    If I played it? Of course. LFD/G is one of the best additions to ever be added to WoW.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by gemana View Post
    Absolutely not.

    LFD was the beginning of the end for Classic WoW.
    I thought that was battlegrounds, or was it dropping raid sizes down to 10/20-man, or introducing heroic dungeons instead of making new content, or giving out welfare epics for losing 10 arena matches a week, or badge gear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrno View Post
    Automated grouping features all promise you great things but in the end it'll just turn out to be the end of WoW as we know it.

    This split the community back in the day and it will split it again .... ..... we all know they will add LFD and it will forever change the game to be more and more like retail.

    The vividly remember the game changing overnight after LFD was added and personally I feel it wasn't for the best. The way people approach dungeons and dungeon groups will forever change. This will only get worse after LFR gets implemented and LFR will get the blame ... but LFR / LFD is all the same really ...

    Edit: I do think there could potentially be a place for server LFD tool for 1-70 content to help out the people leveling up.
    The way people approached dungeons changed with the launch of WotLK. Dungeons were so easy on release that we were go-go-going through them with minimal chatting long before the LFD tool was introduced.

  6. #66
    There's a lot of people in this thread who clearly didn't play WotLK when it was current. LFD was one of the defining features of the expansion.

  7. #67
    LFD YES, but get rid of the 15% bonus with it; honestly; it wasn't necessary back then and it isn't nowadays too.

  8. #68
    LFD was one of the single best additions to wow, ever.

    And it was a part of wrath, wasn't it? What happened to #nochanges? hehe

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero View Post
    There's a lot of people in this thread who clearly didn't play WotLK when it was current. LFD was one of the defining features of the expansion.
    Yes, there seem to be a lot of people in this thread who didn't play WotLK. If they did, they'd realize that for most of Wrath's timeline Dungeon Finder didn't exist. It wasn't put in until over halfway through the expansion.


    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    LFD was one of the single best additions to wow, ever.

    And it was a part of wrath, wasn't it? What happened to #nochanges? hehe
    See above. For the majority of Wrath there was no Dungeon Finder. One could make the argument from a #nochanges standpoint that a truer representation would be to not include the system. But of course it'll be in Wrath Classic as Blizz just uses all the system from the last patch of any expansion.
    Last edited by Coffeh; 2022-03-30 at 01:08 AM.

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeh View Post
    Yes, there seem to be a lot of people in this thread who didn't play WotLK. If they did, they'd realize that for most of Wrath's timeline Dungeon Finder didn't exist. It wasn't put in until over halfway through the expansion.



    See above. For the majority of Wrath there was no Dungeon Finder. One could make the argument from a #nochanges standpoint that a truer representation would be to not include the system. But of course it'll be in Wrath Classic as Blizz just uses all the system from the last patch of any expansion.
    Considering Blizzard is obviously not releasing things on the same timeline expansions did, your comments are utterly irrelevant.

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    I didn't answer because my choice would be yes, but bound to server only, the way it I felt it should have been right from the start. WoW was more enjoyable in an enclosed community, at least for me, and I think dungeons were never as enjoyable after that. Again, just my opinion, ymmv.
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  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero View Post
    There's a lot of people in this thread who clearly didn't play WotLK when it was current. LFD was one of the defining features of the expansion.
    That's so wrong. LFD was released with ICC, literally the last patch (except Halion) before Cataclysm.

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeh View Post
    See above. For the majority of Wrath there was no Dungeon Finder. One could make the argument from a #nochanges standpoint that a truer representation would be to not include the system. But of course it'll be in Wrath Classic as Blizz just uses all the system from the last patch of any expansion.
    See @TheRevenantHero reply. They are always going with the last build of the expac so obviously that would include LFD. And #Nochanges would include LFD since it would be consistent with their previous builds they released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vibah View Post
    That's so wrong. LFD was released with ICC, literally the last patch (except Halion) before Cataclysm.
    And it was a defining feature when it released...I'm the one starting to think yall didn't play wotlk when LFD was in the game almost longer than it wasn't in wrath originally since ICC patch itself lasted about a year until Cata released and LFD was in the game for about half of the expansion's life in total.
    Last edited by matheney2k; 2022-03-30 at 02:07 PM.

  14. #74
    Yes,the reason i love LFD is i can jump into some quick dungeons whenever i have the time without having to wait for friends or guildies to come online i have different work shedules so outside of raiding i play mostly alone( fuck nightshifts)

    I'll also level alot more alts if RDF is available it makes leveling so much more fun for me
    In ever understood the hate for RDF to be fair,it's such a nice quality of life thing,FF14 literaly has the same thing in dungeon roulette and i see nobody hating on that whenever i play there.

    but then again people get salty over a cash shop mount lmao.

  15. #75
    Classic, Classic BC, and Classic Wrath should all just use the LFD finder that is in retail for Mythic/Mythic+/Raid. Player hosts group, people sign up, host invites people as they see fit. Not sold on it being cross-server, but maybe it should start as your own server first, after 3+ minutes you have the option to "expand the search" to other servers. Allows community to still remain intact to some degree, but also doesn't punish smaller servers for lack of people.

  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero View Post
    Considering Blizzard is obviously not releasing things on the same timeline expansions did, your comments are utterly irrelevant.
    Always interesting when you state a fact and someone calls it irrelevant. I already said Dungeon Finder will obviously be in Wrath Classic. I merely pointed out that for most of Wrath it didn't exist.

    By the way, Blizz has staggered content with Classic so I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. On an accelerated timeline, but they didn't just launch Classic or TBC Classic with all the raids and dungeons unlocked. Also, did TBC Classic launch with guild banks? Nope...took quite a while to add that. That's just one example, but I don't expect it to apply to Dungeon Finder in Wrath Classic. Still, we don't know for sure.

    Edit - As I think about this, I start to wonder if maybe they will delay adding Dungeon Finder. It wasn't just a matter of grouping up and sending players to instances. There was a whole reward system attached to it. Not sure if that works right from the start of Wrath. It'll have quite an impact. But...we'll see.
    Last edited by Coffeh; 2022-03-30 at 05:08 PM.

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeh View Post
    Yes, there seem to be a lot of people in this thread who didn't play WotLK. If they did, they'd realize that for most of Wrath's timeline Dungeon Finder didn't exist. It wasn't put in until over halfway through the expansion.
    Wrath lasted appx 25 months. 12 months of that included the Dungeon Finder. So while you are technically correct, it's only by 1 month.

  18. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    See @TheRevenantHero reply. They are always going with the last build of the expac so obviously that would include LFD. And #Nochanges would include LFD since it would be consistent with their previous builds they released.
    Blizzard also delayed features in TBCC until their respective patch introduced them back then.

    That's why the current LFD tool wasn't in on launch, because it was introduced with a patch.
    Same goes for Guildbanks.
    Same goes for some profession recipes.
    Same goes for some other changes (Primal Nether / Vortex being BoP for example).
    Same goes for Caverns of Time Teleport NPC.

    If they're being consistent with that philosophy, which is pretty close to #nochanges, then the Dungeon Finder will have to wait until Phase 4.

    So yeah, that whole "what about #nochanges" joke kinda backfired there.

  19. #79
    Yes.

    I'm not on a dead server, not in the least (mankrik horde).

    1 hour to find a group as a healer (normal dungeons, still leveling)
    1 hour waiting for a tank
    Group falls apart

    This is not a fun gameplay experience.

  20. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kralljin View Post
    Blizzard also delayed features in TBCC until their respective patch introduced them back then.

    That's why the current LFD tool wasn't in on launch, because it was introduced with a patch.
    Same goes for Guildbanks.
    Same goes for some profession recipes.
    Same goes for some other changes (Primal Nether / Vortex being BoP for example).
    Same goes for Caverns of Time Teleport NPC.

    If they're being consistent with that philosophy, which is pretty close to #nochanges, then the Dungeon Finder will have to wait until Phase 4.

    So yeah, that whole "what about #nochanges" joke kinda backfired there.
    Hey there you go somebody who takes classic seriously knows what's up. 50g still says LFD comes out at launch of wotlk classic

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