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  1. #381
    I think the "ThunderBrush" edits are the way to go, make even make them a bit MORE muscular looking.

    Beyond that, though... Blizzard 100%, absolutely needs to allow players to Transmog gear on them properly.

    Also? I really don't know why they're bothering with all these "dragon scales/crazy haircolors for humans and elves". Dragons have never taken on particularly crazy-looking humanoid forms, and to be frank, I'd honestly prefer having my choice of visuals, instead of being locked into a few selection of strangely flamboyant designs. Being ABLE to display horns or have your eyes glow different colors are cool options, but certainly not necessary.

    I'd love to be able to have mine appear as a Nightborne, or perhaps even a Dark Iron (assuming they ever add a "Black Dragonflight" spec).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supertoster View Post
    It is not matter of customization. It is a matter of overall art direction. Different faces and skin colors will not change how out of place they look.
    Overall art direction that you haven’t seen the final version of, seen the total animations for, nor seen the complete ability set. You’re operating with an incomplete deck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Void Priest View Post
    There's always someone that says stuff like this every expansion. The answer doesn't change though. Don't wait. By the time you see everything, it's set in stone, and it won't change even if it turns out the majority really don't like it. We've seen this on loop for multiple expansions and years now. No one should be giving the benefit of the doubt anymore. If something in the previews looks off, before release, people absolutely should be saying something long before things are set in final form.
    We’re not even in Alpha yet dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claymore View Post
    Also? I really don't know why they're bothering with all these "dragon scales/crazy haircolors for humans and elves". Dragons have never taken on particularly crazy-looking humanoid forms, and to be frank, I'd honestly prefer having my choice of visuals, instead of being locked into a few selection of strangely flamboyant designs. Being ABLE to display horns or have your eyes glow different colors are cool options, but certainly not necessary.
    They did that because its what demon hunter had, crazy demonic customizations, and they though it would work again, ignoring that dragons at best, get different eyes and horns, and thats it.

    IT also helps to make a image that they are "working rly hard", to give "so much customizations" when this is easy with their new tech, they did a bunch for a lot of races in shadowlands, is a no problem add 30 hair colors for someone.

    I'd love to be able to have mine appear as a Nightborne, or perhaps even a Dark Iron (assuming they ever add a "Black Dragonflight" spec).
    you, me, and a lot of people would want their visage form to be something different, forcing you to pick either male blood elf or female human is an awful way to go against their own idea that you are supposed to chose your "own identity"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    We’re not even in Alpha yet dude.
    - Its just Alpha, its not even beta
    - Its just beta, it didn't even launch
    - Game just launched, wait a bit
    - Wait for 10.2
    - Wait next expansion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    - Its just Alpha, its not even beta
    - Its just beta, it didn't even launch
    - Game just launched, wait a bit
    - Wait for 10.2
    - Wait next expansion
    We’re talking about something cosmetic which will be upgraded throughout the Alpha-Beta process. Cool your jets.

  5. #385
    this makes dracthyr better. but dracthyr are still dumb. implement ogre race. evoker is now ogre class superior ogres teach to the other races. evokers for many races now. evoker situation is now fixed. lack of ogre race situation is now fixed. wow is vastly improved by ogre evoker gifts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    We’re talking about something cosmetic which will be upgraded throughout the Alpha-Beta process. Cool your jets.
    You don't know if till be upgraded, and you don't know if they will upgrade absed around people feedback, thats exactly why we should not "cool our jets"

    Like, you do not have any horse in this race, for you they are perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    Like, you do not have any horse in this race, for you they are perfect.
    You’re right, I don’t. Keep on demanding until you get what you want. Hopefully you get what you’re asking for.

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    The more I look at DnD Dragonborns, the less Dracthyr looks like dragons for me. Even with wings the look less draconic and more like geckos.


  9. #389
    Good changes. The current head is definitely WAY too small. Slender body is okay but there should be a larger option as well. I can't believe people are paid professionally to design these things when the community can turn around an improve them in a day (or even redesign them). If I was working at Blizz and saw this I would be so demoralized lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xalea View Post
    Good changes. The current head is definitely WAY too small. Slender body is okay but there should be a larger option as well. I can't believe people are paid professionally to design these things when the community can turn around an improve them in a day (or even redesign them). If I was working at Blizz and saw this I would be so demoralized lol.
    that is one of the reasons things may not change, blizzard is stubborn and petty sometimes, they may get butthurt because other artists did better and don't change

  11. #391
    Quote Originally Posted by Supertoster View Post
    These proportions look pretty similar to dracthyr to me. I don't get the gecko thing at all, to be honest. Are the dracthyr's heads really that bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    I don't understand why Blizzard didn't just give us Drakkonoids or Dragonspawn. They fit the WoW aesthetic.

    I don't like the look of the Drakthyr at all. Tweaking their proportions won't salvage the race for me.



    I’m 100% with you. My buddy said it best, the drakrhyr look like they were designed by a furry. Like it’s so far off from other dragon humanoids. I love the idea but hate the way they look. Drakkonids
    Or Dragonspawn like you said would have been better. But I do think the OPs ideas are better than Blizzards for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutineer View Post
    These proportions look pretty similar to dracthyr to me. I don't get the gecko thing at all, to be honest. Are the dracthyr's heads really that bad?
    No.



    And Blizzard has stated they're going to have the option of shorter snouts and broader faces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supertoster View Post
    The more I look at DnD Dragonborns, the less Dracthyr looks like dragons for me. Even with wings the look less draconic and more like geckos.

    These looks like lizards/geckos as well... which is a weird complaint anyway, since dragons are heavily inspired by lizards / geckos / aligators etc etc... reptilians in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutineer View Post
    These proportions look pretty similar to dracthyr to me. I don't get the gecko thing at all, to be honest. Are the dracthyr's heads really that bad?
    The problem is not with their head, but in their overall proportions.
    Legs are too long in relation to body, thighs are too fat while hands are too slim. Chest and shoulders are too slender. Neck is too long and slim, more wyrm like rather than draconic. Their heads look exactly like raptor heads.
    WoW always was something like "rock'n'roll fantasy", dragons were a brutal thing. Dracthyr looks more like they were created by a furry artists with tons of flags and emojis on their twitter bio.

  16. #396
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    We’re talking about something cosmetic which will be upgraded throughout the Alpha-Beta process. Cool your jets.
    Have you not been around the past 3 expansions? Once it's in beta it's set in stone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beet View Post
    I’m 100% with you. My buddy said it best, the drakrhyr look like they were designed by a furry. Like it’s so far off from other dragon humanoids. I love the idea but hate the way they look. Drakkonids
    Or Dragonspawn like you said would have been better. But I do think the OPs ideas are better than Blizzards for sure.
    You know what's interesting? If they can't wear armor anyway, why not just use the quadraped model?

  18. #398
    Quote Originally Posted by Futhark View Post
    You know what's interesting? If they can't wear armor anyway, why not just use the quadraped model?
    My thoughts exactly. There are 2 reasons that people have always used to enforce humanoid shapes; ability to display mogs, and ability to ride mounts. It was stated that they are forced to turn into visage form to dragon ride (for no valid reason imo), and they seemingly can't show mog as well. It's like a compromise with the negatives of both approaches (humanoid and full dragon) while minimizing the pros of each. :|

  19. #399
    Quote Originally Posted by Futhark View Post
    You know what's interesting? If they can't wear armor anyway, why not just use the quadraped model?
    I imagine it's so they can play other classes in the future.

    It does really annoy me that dracthyr can't be their own mounts for the purposes of dragonriding, though. Like, why not? Players that want to collect appearances and use the mounts in the dragonriding system can still do that, and ride them in visage form, but the dragonriding skill really ought to apply to their own dragon form too.

  20. #400
    Quote Originally Posted by Mutineer View Post
    I imagine it's so they can play other classes in the future.

    It does really annoy me that dracthyr can't be their own mounts for the purposes of dragonriding, though. Like, why not? Players that want to collect appearances and use the mounts in the dragonriding system can still do that, and ride them in visage form, but the dragonriding skill really ought to apply to their own dragon form too.
    Thought they mentioned that they would be able to do so... Only riding mounts would require visage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Futhark View Post
    You know what's interesting? If they can't wear armor anyway, why not just use the quadraped model?
    Frankly, I think the animations would be shit... Then again I'm not a fan of WoW Dragons design in general.
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