How I Would Fix Drakthyr

[Teriz]

Even if that's true I sitll don't see a problem. Healers don't need to click on player models.

But clicking on player models makes healing easier, especially when just learning how to play. Additionally, clicking on specific enemies is important for ranged, because sometimes they have to target specific mobs, and not go willy-nilly with tab-targeting. The point is, a huge, beefy model with massive wings and tails would cause a litany of issues with those players.

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In order for the wings to be able to carry a character of that size their back muscles need to be very powerful, which would make more sense if their chest was beefier

Are you agreeing or disagreeing that wider body = larger wingspan/wings?

[Syegfryed]

Can you guys see the blue and red lines?

Are you joking, right? to say this is "much bigger"?

They're either trolling you or being willfully obtuse, I see the lines perfectly and I agree with you.

Ah yes, the classic, everyone who disagree with me is obtuse or trolling, i agree with everyone who share by biased view

I ask the same thing i asked to Trriz, you do not have a horse in this race, for you they are perfect pretty elves, why are youe ven in a thread talking about giving more options if you are fine with the current ones

[Kiria]

Are you joking, right? to say this is "much bigger"?



Ah yes, the classic, everyone who disagree with me is obtuse or trolling, i agree with everyone who share by biased view

I ask the same thing i asked to Trriz, you do not have a horse in this race, for you they are perfect pretty elves, why are youe ven in a thread talking about giving more options if you are fine with the current ones

Oh boo hoo they slightly resemble elves so Im going to throw my toys out of the pram until I get my way, jesus christ you have no idea how childish and immature you are making yourself sound.

Not everything is designed for YOU!

As I said to that troll Au burn before I put him on ignore, maybe its not the game for you anymore and you should consider moving on.

[Syegfryed]

Oh boo hoo they slightly resemble elves so Im going to throw my toys out of the pram until I get my way, jesus christ you have no idea how childish and immature you are making yourself sound.

Not everything is designed for YOU!

As I said to that troll Au burn before I put him on ignore, maybe its not the game for you anymore and you should consider moving on.

And is everything fine as long is designed FOR YOU, and YOU, don't want to have other options for other people, because YOU don't wanna

That is exactly what i expect from someone who play with elves btw.

[Royru]

Are you joking, right? to say this is "much bigger"?



Ah yes, the classic, everyone who disagree with me is obtuse or trolling, i agree with everyone who share by biased view

I ask the same thing i asked to Trriz, you do not have a horse in this race, for you they are perfect pretty elves, why are youe ven in a thread talking about giving more options if you are fine with the current ones

I didn’t say they were much bigger? I believe the conversation was about it showing slight growth and I was showing you how that slight growth can happen just by them breathing.

The topic was about how the guy took a still frame of two dragons in completely different breathing cycles and saw them “slightly buffer”. I then give you this picture of the exact same dragon where he appears “slightly buffer”.

[Ghanir]

Are you agreeing or disagreeing that wider body = larger wingspan/wings?

I am saying that the wings look fine, but in order for them to carry the Dracthyr their muscles would need to be toned up a bit, less so the wing muscles themselves and more so the back muscles, which would mean a beefier torso.

[Berkilak]

I am saying that the wings look fine, but in order for them to carry the Dracthyr their muscles would need to be toned up a bit, less so the wing muscles themselves and more so the back muscles, which would mean a beefier torso.

If you want to inject "reality" into this, you'd need to increase wingspan tenfold, at least, to get any lift. And decrease body mass.

[Ghanir]

Oh boo hoo they slightly resemble elves so Im going to throw my toys out of the pram until I get my way, jesus christ you have no idea how childish and immature you are making yourself sound.

Not everything is designed for YOU!

As I said to that troll Au burn before I put him on ignore, maybe its not the game for you anymore and you should consider moving on.

We are discussing how to "fix" the Dracthyr here, right? People have all the right to argue for more options for the race in question considering that's one of the big points of this thread.

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If you want to inject "reality" into this, you'd need to increase wingspan tenfold, at least, to get any lift. And decrease body mass.

Everything needs to be taken with a large amount of moderation since it is fantasy, after all. But that doesn't mean we don't want some sort of semblance of reality with it to make it more believable

[Syegfryed]

I didn’t say they were much bigger? I believe the conversation was about it showing slight growth and I was showing you how that slight growth can happen just by them breathing.

Check out how much bigger the shoulders are in picture 1, check out how much bigger the face looks, check out how much bigger and taller the neck looks, doesn't that seem to be a similar difference to the picture you posted?

You said three times

I understand you want to say maybe those iamges they were just breathing, but its a wild stretch.

[Kiria]

We are discussing how to "fix" the Dracthyr here, right? People have all the right to argue for more options for the race in question considering that's one of the big points of this thread.

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Everything needs to be taken with a large amount of moderation since it is fantasy, after all. But that doesn't mean we want some sort of semblance of reality with it to make it more believable

Some people are making valid critism and making point, others are here to belittle and just trash talk people who like the game and are happy with it, because obviously they think the people who enjoy it are wrong!

[Ihazpaws]

I don't understand why Blizzard didn't just give us Drakkonoids or Dragonspawn. They fit the WoW aesthetic.

I don't like the look of the Drakthyr at all. Tweaking their proportions won't salvage the race for me.

Because furries do not find those that fuckable. Wow also has gone more and more cutesy style unfortunately. I would have preferred original Warcraft style of blood and guts. Anyway there is no going back so we are gonna get more furry fantasies in the game. I am not saying it's bad art style, it's just not what I had hoped for.

[Royru]

You said three times

I understand you want to say maybe those iamges they were just breathing, but its a wild stretch.

Okay I legit can’t tell if you’re trolling or maybe English isn’t your first language.

But you do understand that saying “check out how much bigger” something is, is not even remotely close to saying “this is much bigger” right?

And it’s not a wild stretch at all, considering the difference in size to both images are very similar.

[Sharby]

Because furries do not find those that fuckable. Wow also has gone more and more cutesy style unfortunately. I would have preferred original Warcraft style of blood and guts. Anyway there is no going back so we are gonna get more furry fantasies in the game. I am not saying it's bad art style, it's just not what I had hoped for.

Most of the people I know who are furries do not like the Dracthyr model either. So I don't think it was designed with them in mind.




Seems to me like Blizzard just wanted a "unique" approach to a dragon race. But they should've kept in mind that generic =/= bad, sometimes designs are super common because they meet a standard.

[Syegfryed]

Okay I legit can’t tell if you’re trolling or maybe English isn’t your first language.

But you do understand that saying “check out how much bigger” something is, is not even remotely close to saying “this is much bigger” right?

You are, for real, trying to say i don't understand english, while telling me "saying something is much bigger don't mean its much bigger"?

And it’s not a wild stretch at all, considering the difference in size to both images are very similar.

they don't, but you do you, im pretty sure blizzard always meet up the expectations.

[Royru]

You are, for real, trying to say i don't understand english, while telling me "saying something is much bigger don't mean its much bigger"?



they don't, but you do you, im pretty sure blizzard always meet up the expectations.

Again I didn’t say “they are much bigger”

I didn’t say that.

I said “check out how much bigger” as in I want you to observe the difference in size. I’m not claiming that size is substantial but I’m asking you to observe the amount.

“How much” is asking you to decide the amount.

“Much” is me deciding the amount is substantial.

That’s how English works.

[Syegfryed]

Most of the people I know who are furries do not like the Dracthyr model either. So I don't think it was designed with them in mind.

Half like, half don't, its a big community, you prob can already find disturbing things in the internet.

Seems to me like Blizzard just wanted a "unique" approach to a dragon race. But they should've kept in mind that generic =/= bad, sometimes designs are super common because they meet a standard

More likely, just like their lore, they try to do something "wacky, new and unique" and we get crap, but what matter is that they liked, we just don't get/appreciate it, have bad taste.

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Again I didn’t say “they are much bigger”

I didn’t say that.

I said “check out how much bigger” as in I want you to observe the difference in size. I’m not claiming that size is substantial but I’m asking you to observe the amount.

“How much” is asking you to decide the amount.

“Much” is me deciding the amount is substantial.

That’s how English works.

So you just wanted to say "how its slightly bigger", as much detones to a great amount or a great quantity of X thing.

[Ghanir]

Some people are making valid critism and making point, others are here to belittle and just trash talk people who like the game and are happy with it, because obviously they think the people who enjoy it are wrong!

You are correct. Some people on these forum use very crude language, the the point it's irritating to read their posts or even see them post in general. And although I don't suggest you accept the things they say, either to you or others or in general, falling down to their level doesn't help either.

[Royru]

Half like, half don't, its a big community, you prob can already find disturbing things in the internet.



More likely, just like their lore, they try to do something "wacky, new and unique" and we get crap, but what matter is that they liked, we just don't get/appreciate it, have bad taste.

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So you just wanted to say "how its slightly bigger", as much detones to a great amount or a great quantity of X thing.

Yes that’s exactly what I was asking for if you actually read the context of that conversation it was completely centered around us finding the “slight” buffness difference between the dragons…. Like why am I even having to explain this, you clearly had a brain fart and now you’re pushing your ignorance onto someone else lol.

The guy gave me a picture showing a slight difference in size… I gave him a picture of the same dragon showing a slight difference in size…. Proving that the slight difference in size is coming from breathing. Period.

[Ghanir]

But you do understand that saying “check out how much bigger” something is, is not even remotely close to saying “this is much bigger” right?

Saying "check out how much bigger X is" does infact imply you think "X is much bigger".

[Auburst]

Yes it shows idle animations, of different dragons. And you know what it shows? They all have the same body types. Kinda weirdddddd huh? And during those animations you see them get bigger and smaller depending on the breaths. I already have shown you this with the purple breathing animation showing his shoulders getting bigger.

You keep talking in circles in hopes to be right about SOMETHING but you are just continuing to be incorrect in everything lol.

It shows that white one has more feminine body. In no moment their chests and waists become as small as white dragon's. You haven't even showed his shoulders but traps during back straightening animation.

So far I'm right about everything and yes I often return to point A to demonstrate how ridiculous is the idea that they suck in their chests and stomachs during breathing. Those are two slightly different body types.

But clicking on player models makes healing easier, especially when just learning how to play. Additionally, clicking on specific enemies is important for ranged, because sometimes they have to target specific mobs, and not go willy-nilly with tab-targeting. The point is, a huge, beefy model with massive wings and tails would cause a litany of issues with those players.

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Are you agreeing or disagreeing that wider body = larger wingspan/wings?

No? Nameplates make it easier. No more issues than full Tauren party.