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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by OokOok View Post
    WoW releases 4 zones, FFXIV released 6.... and i'm telling you that the ffxiv zones are half the size of the WoW ones. So it's not like Blizzard isn't adding in lots of new "Content" or "land"
    Blizzard's issue is they don't use their previous lands in their expansions which makes the expansion/world seem empty and FFXIV does which makes it seem full
    They said they will look to implement the Flight mechanic to all zones outside Dragon Isles, that will surely make them full.
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  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    I don’t know I’d argue the credits are the best metric as it’s the literal only one that lists every one involved.

    Though of course listing every one involved is also a negative if you just want pure devs and no support staff but even then the credits would be the best place to look though you’d just have to manually sift through them.
    It's certainly not easy to compare products via the raw numbers in the credits. Especially artistic endeavors also contain alot of inherited credits because or (re-)used assets, be these models or just characters and story. Then you have all the multiple mentions and the unknown overlap due to common names. Furthermore you have the various consultants, fire fighters of other departments (omg the deadline, help, please!), temp hires and what not. It's rather hard to believe that the core team of WoW is 60% of all of Blizzard..

    I mean the literally credit their HR department..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deventh View Post
    It is not larger than Outland for sure. It's slightly bigger than Northrend from what I gathered.

    Also the biggest expansion in terms of zones will forever be Cataclysm with the revamp of all Classic zones + Deepholm + Maelstrom + Vashj'ir + The opening of some classic zones which we never had before like Hyjal. So nothing will ever come close to that ever again.
    Northrend is actually a good but larger than outland. 25% bigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmic Janitor View Post
    It's certainly not easy to compare products via the raw numbers in the credits. Especially artistic endeavors also contain alot of inherited credits because or (re-)used assets, be these models or just characters and story. Then you have all the multiple mentions and the unknown overlap due to common names. Furthermore you have the various consultants, fire fighters of other departments (omg the deadline, help, please!), temp hires and what not. It's rather hard to believe that the core team of WoW is 60% of all of Blizzard..

    I mean the literally credit their HR department..
    it's not easy to compare it no but it's also the only real team list we are ever going to get and can be shifted through to remove extra's which will alway s bet beer then speculating team sizes based off of no info at all.
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  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by Deventh View Post
    Huh? So if we post in the forums we must love the game unconditionally and not criticize anything our lords at Blizzard do? That's not how it works. Not everyone is a sheep in here, buddy. I've played Blizzard games for over 20 years and will continue to play them, but they need a strong criticism if they are to improve.


    No one said 50 massive zones or 20 dungeons and 6 raids at launch. But glorifying less content isn't helping either.



    Haven't heard anything about that. If it's true it will be the first time they've done this since I can't remember another zone that had different biomes within it.
    Yeah and not everyone who doesn't just shit on the game is a sheep. See how that works.

    You don't even know it's less content besides the number being different.

    We can actually see that the grizzly hills looking zone switches from red forests to snow tundra.
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    Let's reserve our harsher criticism for when we can actually explore and properly critique the content of the zones.

    And it is wise to take into consideration that because of flight supposedly being more properly implemented alongside the zones, the zones being more vertical, the size of each zone will be bigger than just from one end to the other.

  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by ryanmahaffe View Post

    We can actually see that the grizzly hills looking zone switches from red forests to snow tundra.
    Interesting. If that is true, it will eliminate a lot of the problems I have with fewer zones.

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    And would that be bad?

    "New zone, northrend!"

    How many zones does not matter, its how BIG the zone is that does.
    I like seeing comments like these implying that my comment was negative when in reality it was just neutral.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deventh View Post
    Interesting. If that is true, it will eliminate a lot of the problems I have with fewer zones.
    Its not even in interviews, it was in the presentation.

    The GH zone had, different kinds of forests with different trees, but the main forest has red woods. A beach area leading up into some hills, then forrests, to mountains, and finally the top of mountains with snow tundras and Tuskarr. They said this specific zone is likely the largest zone they have ever made.

  10. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by Deventh View Post
    Interesting. If that is true, it will eliminate a lot of the problems I have with fewer zones.
    Unfortunately, I can't find the images of that zone at the minute, not because it's hard but because I am too lazy to do so. But I also know they said a few times now that the zones will be really varied.
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  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Brenz View Post
    Oh I don't question your sanity. Im sure you are relatively sane.
    Its your intelligence I question.
    I may be stupid, dude - but if you allow stupid people to influence your life... What exactly does it say about you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mardux View Post
    Your narcissism is showing. Might want to cover that up.
    Does it? And why would I do? Are we compething here for good image? What is the prize?
    Listen, I've just said that I don't care about opinions of random people on the internet and you tell me I should be careful not to look narcisstic. If you add 2 to 2, you'll surely understand why I don't care about it, either.
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  12. #112
    How is this thread even still open. Zone size is arbitrary at best. Comparing the volume of the entire landmass against other expansions would be a far better comparison and that's something we just can't do yet. Even with four zones, if the continent is as large as Northrend, who gives a shit? Chances are we'll still get a variety of different sub-biomes within each greater zone.

  13. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Deventh View Post
    You know you could have 10 big zones that are also full of activities than 4 big ones that are full of activities? You know that right? Next expansion: "We give you 2 zones, but they are full of activities, more so than last time!"
    if the 2 zones will be in size comparable to Norhtrend (which they compared DF to) then i couldnt care less...
    WHY ON EARTH would number of zones be important in any way, the size and the amount of content is, if we got 10 zones with amount of content as in Crystalsong forest it would be SHIT...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumorii View Post
    It's like saying that if you cut a pizza up into 20 pieces instead of 4 you have more pizza.
    this is 100% on point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mardux View Post
    Your narcissism is showing. Might want to cover that up.
    he is laughing at the guy who told him he is stupid for spending money on what he likes, and you think HE is the narcissist?
    i would say the other guy, who seems to think the world revolves around him is narcissist, but okay...
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  14. #114
    yes 4. Otherwise it'll cost us a raid tier No seriously it depends how large and what you can do in them and how they feel. I did not like legion, bfa and sl because all the "attractions" were liked space one meter from each and that felt super unnatural. The old zones felt more fantasy organic somehow.

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