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    Just noticed something we all missed.....

    ....do Envokers even use weapons? Didn't see any in the clips they shared. They were just straight Moonkin casting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfelle View Post
    ....do Envokers even use weapons? Didn't see any in the clips they shared. They were just straight Moonkin casting.
    Most likely treated like moonkins when dragon form, and humanoid form then has the weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    Most likely treated like moonkins when dragon form, and humanoid form then has the weapon.
    yeah but what weapons? The logical guess would be the same as mages. Just thought it was weird that information isn't anywhere and it looks like we all collectively overlooked it

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    I seriously hope we can see armor and their weapon on them. It's also different than moonkin in that at least there you can choose to remain out of moonkin form. I doubt that you will be able to fly around in human form breathing fire.

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    I'm almost positive your weapon will not be visible in combat. That makes sense. It would look kind of dumb to have a staff sticking out of your back while your flying around blasting targets with fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfelle View Post
    yeah but what weapons? The logical guess would be the same as mages. Just thought it was weird that information isn't anywhere and it looks like we all collectively overlooked it
    I feel like it'll be just like Mages, maybe Maces added.
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    1h maces would fit for the healing aspect. Beyond that, probably staves and 1h swords + offhand. Can't think of another that works off the top of my head. If they had a melee version, I'd say fist weapons, but without that I'm not so sure.

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    I'm guess a superset of mages and priests. So staves, 1h swords, 1h maces daggers and off-hands.
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    I wonder if they might go the route of DH's and add a new weapon type that only Evokers can use. I could see them using a Magic Source of some kind that they don't actually have to hold. Though I guess that's something they'd have mentioned in the announcement.

    It'll probably be standard caster weapons, maybe with new ways of holding/sheathing them that just aren't ready to be shown yet.

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    Yeah, kinda odd. I imagine they'll all be stat sticks. Or maybe they can only wield unarmed weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    I'm almost positive your weapon will not be visible in combat. That makes sense. It would look kind of dumb to have a staff sticking out of your back while your flying around blasting targets with fire.
    to be fair, all weapons on casters looks stupid, as there are no "channel through the weapon" casting animations. They're stat sticks we can walk around with, not actually use

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stricks View Post
    I seriously hope we can see armor and their weapon on them. It's also different than moonkin in that at least there you can choose to remain out of moonkin form. I doubt that you will be able to fly around in human form breathing fire.
    Yeah, how do Evoker tier sets work? I mean they won't be visible during combat? Uhm...

    I know feral Druids do have the same issue, but... really? It's quite lazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusken View Post
    I wonder if they might go the route of DH's and add a new weapon type that only Evokers can use. I could see them using a Magic Source of some kind that they don't actually have to hold. Though I guess that's something they'd have mentioned in the announcement.

    It'll probably be standard caster weapons, maybe with new ways of holding/sheathing them that just aren't ready to be shown yet.
    That would be cool. I can imagine something like an elemental orb that hovers above the user's hand with a particle effect that surrounds the user. Or something similar to the MoP legendary cloak effect, a sigil of sorts that floats on the user's back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Yeah, how do Evoker tier sets work? I mean they won't be visible during combat? Uhm...

    I know feral Druids do have the same issue, but... really? It's quite lazy.
    During combat? Do you guys really pay attention to your armor during actual combat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korsha View Post
    to be fair, all weapons on casters looks stupid, as there are no "channel through the weapon" casting animations.
    Well, "no" is an overstatement, there's Shadow's Void Torrent and Ele's Stormkeeper.

    But there needs to be an option (e.g. selectable at the Barbershop or future class customization system) to channel spells through your weapon, even if it's as simple as putting the weapon in your hand and attaching the spell effect to the weapon's enchantment "focus" (where enchantment/illusion effects originate from) instead of your hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Yeah, how do Evoker tier sets work? I mean they won't be visible during combat? Uhm...
    Read somewhere that at least Helm, Shoulders and some other slots remain visible in Dracthyr Form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stricks View Post
    I seriously hope we can see armor and their weapon on them.
    I believe in an interview somewhere they mentioned that you can at least show shoulder armor, belt, and tabard if I'm recalling correctly, though I don't have a link to that interview on hand. Still wish it was more than that but better than nothing I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfelle View Post
    ....do Envokers even use weapons? Didn't see any in the clips they shared. They were just straight Moonkin casting.
    probably just stat sticks, tbh

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    We were told that they fight "using breath, claw and magic", so I doubt we'll see them use actual weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Yeah, how do Evoker tier sets work? I mean they won't be visible during combat? Uhm...

    I know feral Druids do have the same issue, but... really? It's quite lazy.
    The upside of them being Race exclusive is that tier sets can be designed around the skeleton to look proper. New mail armour will also (hopefully) be designed to work with them, we can see them wearing armour in the reveal as opposed to not in the creation screen.

    People are comparing them to Druids when they should be comparing them to Worgen. I imagine old world armour sets will look just as silly on Drac'thyr as they do on Worgen or Kul Tiran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusken View Post
    The upside of them being Race exclusive is that tier sets can be designed around the skeleton to look proper. New mail armour will also (hopefully) be designed to work with them, we can see them wearing armour in the reveal as opposed to not in the creation screen.

    People are comparing them to Druids when they should be comparing them to Worgen. I imagine old world armour sets will look just as silly on Drac'thyr as they do on Worgen or Kul Tiran.
    I'm pretty sure the armor we've seen on Dracthyr characters is just a cosmetic toggle in the barbershop, not actual gear.

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