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  1. #641
    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    Such as? The only thing I saw was her sisters testimony which contradicts her own.
    Any testimony is evidence and a lot of people have testified..

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    I didn't realize the police are on Depp's payroll.
    Did the poster mention the police, or his nurse? You seem confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugenik View Post
    Its interesting, people paid by Depp are telling the truth, but people testifying for Heard are liars. What makes you so certain of that assertion?
    No, that's not what is being said. The problem is that Heard's testimony, and those of her witnesses, are not consistent in themselves, with each other, between testimony given between this and the U.K. trial, and is inconsistent with testimony given by police and medical experts. Moreover, Heard's decision to play with words, persistent reframing of questions to not answer what is being asked, argumentative attitude about minutia, and decision to outright call other people liars on the stand has more-or-less has impeached her as a witness. This isn't an instance where one team is doing an amazing job, it's that Heard and her team are doing so terribly that it makes it hard to even give her the benefit of the doubt anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugenik View Post
    Did the poster mention the police, or his nurse? You seem confused.
    The police and nurses would fall under the umbrella of "other witnesses".
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    If nothing else it's a rare catharsis for men living with/that have lived with an abusive partner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    judge said the scum (or was it the mail) could call him a wife beater because 12 of the 14 examples of abuse met the threshold to be upheld. You don't even have to beat people up to be a domestic abuser it can all be mental abuse and gaslighting. But he did actually use physical abuse. So fuck him.
    They hit each other. They had fights that got heated. Amber said that. She hit him too, multiple times. Also, have you been watching the court case? Amber is an omega pro at gaslighting. She's trying to gaslight everyone in that trial. And I wouldn't be surprised if she gaslight Johnny. Johnny is no pillar of morality, he did some bad things, but Amber is just next level crazy abuser. If I were with someone like her, I could see myself getting angry on the daily. If she hit me, I'd hit her back. Self defense is fair game. She's certifiably crazy and has told numerous lies so far. All of the "proof" of violence against Amber heard, the "black eye" the "split lip" and all those other pictures look like she wasn't hit at all, or if she was it was more of a slap then anything else.

    When asked why it appeared she had no injuries in the pictures, Amber Heard just said she was "wearing makeup". For one, no she was not. With experience in makeup, several of those pictures either had no makeup or light makeup. The "Broken nose" picture had lots of makeup, but I've seen broken noses. Hers was not broken. She's a liar, she's a gaslighter, she's completely nuts, and all of the accusations she's made about Johnny are being called into question now because of it.



    I realize all you UK chavs have just decided Depp is guilty because your tabloids plastered that he's an abuser all over everywhere, and then the trial happened and it was a stupid kangaroo court, a mockery. The judge and everyone in it was clearly influenced by the public perception of Depp at the time, not the facts. The UK trial failed. And now the US is setting it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugenik View Post
    Patently, verifiably false. Theyve presented a lot of evidence..
    Evidence so far:

    Amber's testimony
    Amber's sister's testimony
    Some pictures that look like plain selfies with no injuries
    Amber crying a lot on the stand



    I think the biggest mockery of this trial is that Amber keeps saying she "survived", that she "survived" domestic abuse. It's an insult to everyone who has experienced actual domestic abuse and nearly died because of it. Had a friend whose husband beat her into a coma that lasted months. Amber Heard is insulting other abuse victims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugenik View Post
    Any testimony is evidence and a lot of people have testified..
    A lot of people have testified. A lot. And all of them have affirmed that JD and AH are indeed both drug addicts. When questioned and cross examined, when the witnesses were asked if they ever saw Johnny engaging in any violent behavior, they all said no, aside from Heard and her sister.

    I realize you think people reaffirming that JD is in fact a drug addict means Johnny = Bad and therefor Johnny = domestic abuser, but that's not how this works. There's not been significant evidence of any kind of serious or ongoing domestic abuse, and to claim otherwise is a falsehood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugenik View Post
    Any testimony is evidence and a lot of people have testified..
    Yes and other than her sister none have testified to Depp abusing Amber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post



    I realize all you UK chavs have just decided Depp is guilty because your tabloids plastered that he's an abuser all over everywhere, and then the trial happened and it was a stupid kangaroo court, a mockery. The judge and everyone in it was clearly influenced by the public perception of Depp at the time, not the facts. The UK trial failed. And now the US is setting it right..
    dont get mad at me because jonny depp beats up women

  7. #647
    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    dont get mad at me because jonny depp beats up women
    And Heard beat up all of her former lovers but what has that got to do with the price of tea in China?

  8. #648
    Kind of weird to give your abuser a giant knife as a gift.

    And where are the markings from his rings? You cant hit someone in the face with rings on and just give them slight reddish marks that were totally not made up with a bruise kit. Sorry I mean theater kit.

  9. #649
    Quote Originally Posted by RobertoCarlos View Post
    Kind of weird to give your abuser a giant knife as a gift.
    Nothing weird about that. When my ex kept trying to poison my coffee, on her birthday I gave her a gift basket of arsenic and cyanide tablets to use however she pleased.

  10. #650
    Quote Originally Posted by RobertoCarlos View Post
    Kind of weird to give your abuser a giant knife as a gift.
    With the engraving "Until Death".

    Honestly, the way she acted when Depp wanted to go into his house to be with his kids. I think she has abandonment issues, which explains the abuse she does in the relationships she's had. Now that they are separated she spun this story to cope with Depp leaving her because of her behaviour. Can't take any responsibility for anything(throwing her lawyers under the bus about leaked images to the press), not even for things that don't matter. Are quick to take full credit for things others helped her with (Depp helped her get Aquaman role).

    After the trial I think she will throw her lawyers under the bus and maybe even sue them for malpractice.
    People are still thinking Depp won't win, which I thought as well, because of the damages point, but after hearing people describing the jurys reaction to Heard, I think he's already won.

    Then we have the fact that Depps team have 18h to go, while the defendant have 8h to go. A huge 10h difference. After their 8h is up, Depps team can do literally anything, bring up any witness, and Heards team can't cross examine or do rebuttals and what not. Amber is in deep shit.
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    Honestly, it's hard to watch. A dysfunctional couple doing their dirty laundry in public. When can we expect the ruling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Honestly, it's hard to watch. A dysfunctional couple doing their dirty laundry in public. When can we expect the ruling?
    Closing arguments are planned for 27th.
    So probably next week. My guess is monday.
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  13. #653
    Quote Originally Posted by RobertoCarlos View Post
    Kind of weird to give your abuser a giant knife as a gift.
    .
    not really tho is it

  14. #654
    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    not really tho is it
    Well when you put it into context of other types of assault it does seem strange.

    Would you give your cell mate in prison whos sexually assaulting you a porno mag? To get them fired up for lights out.

    Giving Johnny a Knife so he can act out an action scene as Jack Sparrow in Pirates 3 on your face when you're fearing for your life by changing the locks on the penthouse hes paying for so you can sleep with Elon Musk and txt him like a jaded 16 year old just all kind of seems a bit strange to me. But maybe thats just hollywood baby

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertoCarlos View Post
    Well when you put it into context of other types of assault it does seem strange.

    Would you give your cell mate in prison whos sexually assaulting you a porno mag? To get them fired up for lights out.

    Giving Johnny a Knife so he can act out an action scene as Jack Sparrow in Pirates 3 on your face when you're fearing for your life by changing the locks on the penthouse hes paying for so you can sleep with Elon Musk and txt him like a jaded 16 year old just all kind of seems a bit strange to me. But maybe thats just hollywood baby
    buying gifts they want, professing your love for them, complimenting them in public, always going crawling back to them even after they mistreat you is domestic abuse victim 101 shit. its almost cliche.

  16. #656
    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    not really tho is it
    You'd give someone who abuses you a weapon like that, as a gift? What about a gun? I doubt the answer is yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    buying gifts they want, professing your love for them, complimenting them in public, always going crawling back to them even after they mistreat you is domestic abuse victim 101 shit. its almost cliche.
    Johnny definitely is a victim here, yes.

  17. #657
    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    Had a friend whose husband beat her into a coma that lasted months.
    I bet you know it was him because there were several witnesses there to see it happen.. Most abuse happens behind closed doors where there are no witnesses.. by design.

    Or are you saying that because Depp didnt put Heard in a coma, it doesnt count?
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  18. #658
    Quote Originally Posted by Eugenik View Post
    I bet you know it was him because there were several witnesses there to see it happen.. Most abuse happens behind closed doors where there are no witnesses.. by design.

    Or are you saying that because Depp didnt put Heard in a coma, it doesnt count?
    Amber Heard has testified that:
    - JD beat her within an inch of her life, pummeling her repeatedly straight in the face with ringed hands
    - made her completely shred her feet on broken glass
    - broke her nose
    - gave her black eyes

    This is obviously horrible abuse. However…

    - At no point has she sought medical attention, not even with a coverstory (walked into a door, etc).
    - At no point has a neutral party identified visible injuries on her
    - Her own friends/sister give contradictory testimony to AH’s
    - Police determined there were no signs of abuse
    - on several occasions she appeared in public a day after the alleged abuse, and she was apparently able to cover up all signs with makeup

    Have you considered the possibility she is… misrepresenting the truth?

    Perhaps prudent to also consider she has been caught (and may face prosecution for) repeated acts of perjury. Including (but perhaps not limited to):

    - smuggling her dogs into australia
    - donating to charity
    - breaking her nose (she stated it was broken. On cross she changed it to “it felt broken”.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veggie50 View Post
    - breaking her nose (she stated it was broken. On cross she changed it to “it felt broken”.)
    I use "broken" and "it was kinda red for about an hour" synonymously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nastard View Post
    I use "broken" and "it was kinda red for about an hour" synonymously.
    Probably was broken, said she fixed it with ice.
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