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  1. #481
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    She will win, despite being a liar and a psychopath.

    And that has nothing to do with her being a woman or a victim. It has to do with the legalities of what is and isn't defamation.

    This has been a mutually toxic and violent relationship, and much if not most of it was initiated by Heard, but that is irrelevant to the technical question before the jury. Namely, was Depp violent and would the term "domestic abuser" apply to him in the broadest sense of the definition? And there the answer is yes.

    Him getting any favorable verdict would be shocking and would be instantly overturned in appeals.
    Absolutely no way that Heard wins with all the bullshit against her. She has been shit on at every question and all of the evidence.

  2. #482
    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    Amber's sister's testimony looks really good for Amber. She's the only person to say she actually saw Depp abuse Amber. Depp is going to need one hell of a cross examination to recover.

    Rocky's was a bit laughable when she started crying claiming Amber had two black eyes in a picture she clearly didn't have any black eyes. It was a bit surreal and kind of killed any credibility she had. Like has she ever seen someone wake up without makeup before in her life?
    Her testimony isn't consistent with Amber's testimony though. Amber's recounting of the event was that she thought Johnny was going to push Whitney down the stairs and punched him before he was able to, Whitney's testimony was that he hit her from behind, then Amber punched Johnny, then Johnny grabs Amber by the hair and repeatedly punches her in the face, in the presence of Debbie Lloyd and Travis McGivern.

  3. #483
    Quote Originally Posted by Aurrora View Post
    Her testimony isn't consistent with Amber's testimony though. Amber's recounting of the event was that she thought Johnny was going to push Whitney down the stairs and punched him before he was able to, Whitney's testimony was that he hit her from behind, then Amber punched Johnny, then Johnny grabs Amber by the hair and repeatedly punches her in the face, in the presence of Debbie Lloyd and Travis McGivern.
    Well, nothing from Amber's testimony can be believed, she was literally warned about perjury.

  4. #484
    Today is what Amber's team should have lead with. Credible, likeable, and believable witnesses, not Amber or whatever the fuck that doctor was they had first.

  5. #485
    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Absolutely no way that Heard wins with all the bullshit against her. She has been shit on at every question and all of the evidence.
    Whenever she herself is credible doesn't matter much, Depp is the one making the accusations and has to prove his claim. Whenever she's a bad person herself or not is completely irrelevant, as is the fact most people seem to believe Depp over her. When talking about the trial, all that matters is that Depp is able to prove not only that there was no grounds whatsoever for him being called an abuser by Heard/the Sun back then, but that it was done with malicious intent. That's a very, very tall order. Defamation is hard to prove in America by design.

    All the media circus surrounding the trial, the salacious stories and such, that's for public consumption. PR. There's not that much there that'll actually influence the course of the trial.
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  6. #486
    Quote Originally Posted by Jastall View Post
    Whenever she herself is credible doesn't matter much, Depp is the one making the accusations and has to prove his claim. Whenever she's a bad person herself or not is completely irrelevant, as is the fact most people seem to believe Depp over her. When talking about the trial, all that matters is that Depp is able to prove not only that there was no grounds whatsoever for him being called an abuser by Heard/the Sun back then, but that it was done with malicious intent. That's a very, very tall order. Defamation is hard to prove in America by design.

    All the media circus surrounding the trial, the salacious stories and such, that's for public consumption. PR. There's not that much there that'll actually influence the course of the trial.
    She has to prove her case too. This isn't just Depp suing her, she's suing him as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    Amber's sister's testimony looks really good for Amber. She's the only person to say she actually saw Depp abuse Amber. Depp is going to need one hell of a cross examination to recover.

    Rocky's was a bit laughable when she started crying claiming Amber had two black eyes in a picture she clearly didn't have any black eyes. It was a bit surreal and kind of killed any credibility she had. Like has she ever seen someone wake up without makeup before in her life?
    Her sister's testimony certainly hurt his chances of actually winning the trial, but from all of the photo evidence so far, it's very clear that if (or probably when) Johnny hit her, it wasn't very hard, or even hard. All of these pictures of her "black eyes" and "Broken noses" and "split lips" show none of those things. So as far as the jury is likely thinking, she's nuts, and lying. Her credibility is in the shitter. Even if Johnny doesn't win this, Heard's reputation is shit, and Johnny has in part redeemed himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    The judge warned her about perjury?
    Even if she was, I doubt much will come of it. Perjury is the willful telling of untruths, i.e. they'd have to demonstrate that she knew what she was saying was BS. From how insane she's been acting, it's pretty clear she believes everything she says is true. She's one of those special people who seems capable of constructing a fake reality to hide from the shit she's done.
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  8. #488
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    The judge warned her about perjury?
    https://www.newsweek.com/amber-heard...-trial-1707773

    She said she donated $3.5 million to charity, then said under oath that she hadn't.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-charity.html

    I know it is the daily fail, but she said in UK court that she had donated the $3.5 million, and then in court in this defamation case, she says she hasn't. So now she is possibly looking at a perjury probe.

  9. #489
    Depp was abusive can't see this case going well for him. Always funny to watch wierdo rich people opening their freak lives up to court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    Depp was abusive can't see this case going well for him. Always funny to watch wierdo rich people opening their freak lives up to court.
    The case has gone extremely well for Depp. Even if he doesn't win, which he probably won't, he doesn't need Heard's 50m. He's rich AF. It's about sh owing the world what really happened, and Heard looks like a liar and a crazy person now, especially now that we know she did everything to JD that she's accusing him of.
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  11. #491
    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    The case has gone extremely well for Depp. Even if he doesn't win, which he probably won't, he doesn't need Heard's 50m. He's rich AF. It's about sh owing the world what really happened, and Heard looks like a liar and a crazy person now, especially now that we know she did everything to JD that she's accusing him of.
    being a domestic abuser and wife beater is going well? lol okay.

  12. #492
    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    being a domestic abuser and wife beater is going well? lol okay.
    Has it been proven (with reliable evidence, not the pathetic shit Amber Heard is displaying) that he was a wife beater?

  13. #493
    Quote Originally Posted by Barzotti View Post
    Has it been proven (with reliable evidence, not the pathetic shit Amber Heard is displaying) that he was a wife beater?
    Nope, so far just conflicting testimonies (Ambers sister even gave a different sequence of events during the staircase event) and no one has seen him ever do something violent towards Amber (except her sister during the staircase event). Only her friends have seen minor bruises. And see bruises in pictures which others have said they can't see any.

    It's dubious as hell. Only things consistent is that he can be jealous, throw glasses and slams cabinets during their fights. But never at her.
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  14. #494
    Quote Originally Posted by Kumorii View Post
    Nope, so far just conflicting testimonies (Ambers sister even gave a different sequence of events during the staircase event) and no one has seen him ever do something violent towards Amber (except her sister during the staircase event). Only her friends have seen minor bruises. And see bruises in pictures which others have said they can't see any.

    It's dubious as hell.
    Thanks for the explanation. So, people accusing Depp fo being a wife beater are full of shit.

  15. #495
    Quote Originally Posted by Barzotti View Post
    Thanks for the explanation. So, people accusing Depp fo being a wife beater are full of shit.
    Yeah, at the moment it's either you believe her and her friends or everything else. It's like, either you believe there's a huge conspiracy(including independent witnesses) against Heard, or there's a small conspiracy amongst friends against depp. It's kinda funny that one of the "friends"(all of them have no real contact with her anymore, except 1 if I remember correctly) were contacted by Heard 2 months prior to his deposition to get back in touch. As per his own testimony.

    it's quite some show tbh.
    But it's still important to keep an open mind until the trial is over.
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  16. #496
    Quote Originally Posted by Barzotti View Post
    Has it been proven (with reliable evidence, not the pathetic shit Amber Heard is displaying) that he was a wife beater?
    'The judge in the Johnny Depp libel action concluded that “the great majority of alleged assaults” on Amber Heard by the Pirates of the Caribbean star had been “proved to the civil standard”.

    Of the 14 alleged assaults heard in open court – all of which have been denied by Depp – he found that 12 of them were proved on the balance of probability.'

    you can literally call him a wife beater in the press because he is one.
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  17. #497
    I hate stuff like this and can't get away from it.

    I'll be sat WFH with YouTube doing its own thing in front of me and a video will start called ' anonymous elden ring clip maker is now a lawyer and tells you where amber Heard has gone wrong' or something ridiculous like that then every video until I realise after that is fucking asmongold (who I don't watch) reacting to the trial or an internet lawyer jumping up and down.

    I know far more about these people than i want to know about any stranger but find myself morbidly watching it without realising and I've tried not to lol.

    Im not really on anybodies side here but it feels weird that they are pinning amber down on timescales for things that she has said when she and Johnnie both admit they were consistently using drugs. I went out with mates at weekend and only drank but couldn't reliably tell you an order of what happened and that was three or four days ago.

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    Is elon musk gonna show up at court?

  19. #499
    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Is elon musk gonna show up at court?
    think neither Franco or Musk will testify... it was planned, but think they backed down after seeing the shitshow (speculation of course) and they have no subpoena afaik. No obligation to.
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    In Hollywood if an actress acuses an actor (actually the celebrity world generally) he's immediatelly defamed and kicked out of pretty much all projects he's involved to. Even though it's only on "say" basis, as no court or proof has been provided.
    Pussy whipped world, lol. That shit needs to stop.

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