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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaransan View Post
    In fairness, I would have thought that about being Donald Trumps Lawyer - and yet they keep working for him.
    Some lawyers will take high profile clients just for publicity, which will help them get more clients.

    I don't know that any coder wants to work in a burning building for a megalomaniac asshole boss just to put it on their resume.

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    More or less. Twitter's internal search engine is very weak, and basically you can use it to find something if you know exactly what you're looking for and where to look before you start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaransan View Post
    In fairness, I would have thought that about being Donald Trumps Lawyer - and yet they keep working for him.
    but would you say the lawyers he's been getting are "capable"

    lawyers that know how to handle that sort of case
    or are they the IRL equivalent of Lionel Hutz.


    and as another poster said, in those cases, they are banking on the high profile clients boosting their practice

    coding and engineering doesn't get that much advantage for working for famous places
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    "Law and Order", lots of places have had that, Russia, North Korea, Saddam's Iraq.
    Laws can be made to enforce order of cruelty and brutality.
    Equality and Justice, that is how you have peace and a society that benefits all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    How much do you care to bet that the people offered "their jobs" back lose all seniority and such?
    Doubt they would go for it given how low IT unemployment is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaransan View Post
    In fairness, I would have thought that about being Donald Trumps Lawyer - and yet they keep working for him.
    Have you seen his lawyers? you wouldn't trust these guys to be in a ambulance case. Most of the lawyers he has are terrible bottom of the pit lawyers some with zero experience in the cases they are representing him. If that is the comparison then Twitter will get the equivalent of the IT guy who just got his Microsoft certification and wanted to intern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    Long story short. She resigned when Musk took over. Musk begged her not to resign. She unresigned. She refused to cut the headcount of Twitter's ad sales team that was already depleted. He fired her.
    Don't know about California labour law, but around here she'd get a better deal by getting fired than by resigning. Especially as no one would hold being fired against her in such a high-profile trainwreck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    I don't use Twitter, and all of these are foreign to me. So, to search for a subject/post on Twitter, instead of using Twitter's internal search engine, Twitter users prefer to use Google?
    Google comes default in browser address bars. That is already an argument for using it. Just like IE being default was enough.

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    Appreciate the clarification. Back to the slow moving trainwreck.

    Fifty of the top 100 Twitter advertisers have stopped advertising on Twitter. Seven more have reduced their ad stream to near zero.

    According to our financial adviser at First Republic, the bank has stopped advertising on Twitter also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    Appreciate the clarification. Back to the slow moving trainwreck.

    Fifty of the top 100 Twitter advertisers have stopped advertising on Twitter. Seven more have reduced their ad stream to near zero.

    According to our financial adviser at First Republic, the bank has stopped advertising on Twitter also.
    This is all the work of a secret cabal of activists, apparently.

    And not for-profit companies in a capitalist system behaving exactly like for-profit companies in a capitalist system.

    Watch Elon go further and further down the right wing rabbit hole, which includes making up your own reality, is kinda deeply entertaining but also a bit concerning given his influence and wealth. He's gonna need to sell a lot of Twitter checkmark subs to make that money back. What color is he going to make the paid one? Since I guess it took a few weeks to innovate a different color so that his "Twitter Blue" (name probably to be changed given the color change) wouldn't defeat the entire purpose of the verification system to begin with.

    He remains a master entrepeneur and innovator.

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    Apartheid says what?



    In short I just want to say Elon deleted this. I don't know why he had to tweet this and it bothered him so much about some shirts from 8 years ago now.

    He then believes he needs to engage people.



    Engaging Andy Ngo. Listen I have thoughts on Ferguson, but not the thread and don't derail. My post here is about a CEO of social media dipping himself into something that he should have just let go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    Engaging Andy Ngo. Listen I have thoughts on Ferguson, but not the thread and don't derail. My post here is about a CEO of social media dipping himself into something that he should have just let go.
    Lol, the loser that thought vegan milkshakes were actually quick-dry cement and/or biological weapons.

    Also the guy that has routinely ingratiated himself with white nationalist groups and been directly involved in instigating assaults.

    Seriously, Elon's out there in true Republican fantasyland, just making up his own reality. This is why advertisers are fleeing, and this is also why he's blaming their flight on some secret cabal of activists that somehow holds sway over major multinational corporations (fuckin lol). Because he's god damned Elon and he's always right and never wrong and never makes mistakes so if advertisers are fleeing it's clearly SOMEONE ELSE who is to blame and not his ass.

    I do hope people regularly remind him that he is still, and will always be a disappointment to his father. A guy who fucked his step-granddaughter because the whole family are a bunch of freaks apparently.

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    of course bitch baby rich boy and son and inheritor of apartheid emerald mine slaver money says racist police violence doesn't exist
    "It's 2013 and I still view the internet on a 560x192 resolution monitor!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Low Hanging Fruit View Post
    I mean... I think a dead Twitter is a better Twitter and I would have said that before Elon but now I actively hope it happens.
    Why?, twitter is useful for a lot of people, the wast majority of users aren't using it for politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diller View Post
    Why?, twitter is useful for a lot of people, the wast majority of users aren't using it for politics.
    There's basically nothing particularly unique about Twitter that couldn't be immediately replaced by a competitor, other than the audience it currently (or at least, prior to all this) commands. It could be replaced by a competitor in a week and it would change nearly nothing about society, other than people having to change the link to their Twitter to a link to their Mastodon or Bluesky or whatever. I don't actually think Mastodon's that great an alternative because it's too high a bar to entry (not that the bar is high, but it needs to be low enough that idiots can figure it out to get popular enough), but that's not really a "feature".


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    Elon Musk has embedded himself in the right-wing ecosystem. Here’s a thread of him getting cozy in the mentions of fascists, all from just the past week

    It's a tweet thread with screen caps and all his engagements with extreme right wing people. These are not the so called everyday Republicans here. Posts include Andy Ngo, Tim Poole, Catturd (fml), Dinesh D'Souza, etc. All in the past day.

    Anecdotally I went to page and looked at "left" engagement. Only ones I read was him trying to Stephen King and others, just trolling them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    There's basically nothing particularly unique about Twitter that couldn't be immediately replaced by a competitor, other than the audience it currently (or at least, prior to all this) commands. It could be replaced by a competitor in a week and it would change nearly nothing about society, other than people having to change the link to their Twitter to a link to their Mastodon or Bluesky or whatever. I don't actually think Mastodon's that great an alternative because it's too high a bar to entry (not that the bar is high, but it needs to be low enough that idiots can figure it out to get popular enough), but that's not really a "feature".
    That wasn't my question though - why is twitter apparently inherently bad?

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    It's inherently bad because there's no real way to govern it. It's become such a vessel for communication and the free flow of speech that when things like hate speech, misinformation, or basically negative influences are given far more weight and following than they deserve. The KKK and it's ilk are a lot more in touch with one another across the country, criminals and other toxic elements.

    How should we have it controlled, by the Government? People don't want that for good reasons. Private enterprise? People also don't want that, for equally good reasons. It's become a matter of we can't trust anyone with the policing of social media like Twitter, not private companies, the government, or the people themselves.

    I won't deny there are some good elements to social media, but the bad elements are just surging with no real pushback at a rate that makes those good things irrelevant.
    "It's 2013 and I still view the internet on a 560x192 resolution monitor!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoiseTank13 View Post
    It's inherently bad because there's no real way to govern it. It's become such a vessel for communication and the free flow of speech that when things like hate speech, misinformation, or basically negative influences are given far more weight and following than they deserve. The KKK and it's ilk are a lot more in touch with one another across the country, criminals and other toxic elements.

    How should we have it controlled, by the Government? People don't want that for good reasons. Private enterprise? People also don't want that, for equally good reasons. It's become a matter of we can't trust anyone with the policing of social media like Twitter, not private companies, the government, or the people themselves.

    I won't deny there are some good elements to social media, but the bad elements are just surging with no real pushback at a rate that makes those good things irrelevant.
    Have it privately owned and heavily regulated, it's really not that complicated we do that with similar mediums.

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    You'd think that as Twitter's monthly income (and thus debt) plummets in to Oblivion, Musk would be more worried. Instead he's cozying up to the far right, likely because he's a narcissist that needs praise and seeks validation, and the only one praising his recent decisions are the far right. Everyone else is ridiculing him.

    Also, Tesla stock continues to absolutely Plummet.

    Musk's little stunt has likely landed him in bankruptcy for both himself and Twitter, but bankruptcy has never stopped the far right from continuing their grifts. If anything, gaming the system through declaring bankruptcy tends to only gain them more popularity. Why does the right gravitate towards terrible business leaders?
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    MMO-C's second-favorite lawyer lists the issues Musk faces with his buyer's remorse.


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    Elon's argument for layoffs is "Twitter is losing 4 million a day". It was profitable until he borrowed a bunch of money to overpay for it, and now the interest is killing him, so he's taking it out on the employees.

    The beatings will continue until morale improves!

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