Elon Musk Buys Twitter

[Paranoid Android]

Surely Twitter, aka Elon is amping this up as the propaganda that the right has abolitionist free speech. At best Elon has been so right-wing pilled by people telling him there is just this imagination world of free speech and nazi, false information, attacking people on the edges okay. At the worst Elon is on it.

Elon is no doubt steering this into circle the wagons of the right and let them say anything and its free speech and if criticized or pushback, you are some lefty and it doesn't hold water. I think this is and will become a Fox News place, where they just say right wing crap and do faux outrage when any pushback.

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Rofl, he really is completely losing his mind and going all-in on the extreme right ring conspiracy theories because he lost a $44B game of chicken to some nerds at Twitter.

Oof! I don't even want to get into the Fauci crap, but thinking you can prosecute someone who was trying to save lives is a reach. But that's the shithead right for you.

My main take is that not less than a week ago Twitter scrubbed their Covid policy. Many reasons but you see here that this paves a way for elon, to go crazy on just saying shit about covid. I don't even know if Elon is a vaccine denier or had taken the vaccine. I do know that like any piece of shit corporate owner, he was must upset that he had to half way protect his workers instead of letting them work in an environment where they were more susceptible to Covid and spreading. While this did not happen in the US, elon lost his shit when China did this.

[VMSmith]

At this point, the only thing keeping Twitter afloat, for me, is the lack of a viable alternative. But on many days, I think maybe we don't need a public square like Twitter like...at all. All it's done has made people dumber and more reactionary, and amplified conspiracy nonsense that previously was limited just to your racist uncle ranting at Thanksgiving.

About a week after he took over he Musk said something repellent enough that I deactivated my account and have let it be deleted. I don't miss it, one bit. At this point anyone who's not in on the right-wing fascist love-in and is still spending time on Twitter is just facilitating said love-in. They want everyone who's not a fascist to be exposed to their hatred because they know it eventually seeps in because they make it seem oh so reasonable, by remaining on Twitter you actually help create that lack of a viable alternative.

If the normal people abandoned Twitter then it would crash and something useful would be created to take it's place. But, so long as non-Nazi's spend all their social time on a Nazi site then the Nazi site is going to be dominant.

Just leave Twitter and delete your account. After a few weeks you won't miss it at all

[Edge-]

Oof! I don't even want to get into the Fauci crap, but thinking you can prosecute someone who was trying to save lives is a reach. But that's the shithead right for you.

My main take is that not less than a week ago Twitter scrubbed their Covid policy. Many reasons but you see here that this paves a way for elon, to go crazy on just saying shit about covid. I don't even know if Elon is a vaccine denier or had taken the vaccine. I do know that like any piece of shit corporate owner, he was must upset that he had to half way protect his workers instead of letting them work in an environment where they were more susceptible to Covid and spreading. While this did not happen in the US, elon lost his shit when China did this.

I mean, he's been doing this shit with covid since the start.

Spent the first year+ downplaying its seriousness, got it twice, downplayed vaccines etc. etc. etc.

He's basically just one of the Mercers, but he loves publicity. I do wonder if he'll take over funding of Breitbart soon, and since he has uncompromising support of Freeze Peach he can go pay to host a bunch of kiddy porn sites and Nazi forums while he's at his.

[Rennadrel]

Oof! I don't even want to get into the Fauci crap, but thinking you can prosecute someone who was trying to save lives is a reach. But that's the shithead right for you.

My main take is that not less than a week ago Twitter scrubbed their Covid policy. Many reasons but you see here that this paves a way for elon, to go crazy on just saying shit about covid. I don't even know if Elon is a vaccine denier or had taken the vaccine. I do know that like any piece of shit corporate owner, he was must upset that he had to half way protect his workers instead of letting them work in an environment where they were more susceptible to Covid and spreading. While this did not happen in the US, elon lost his shit when China did this.

I don't get it either. What's prosecuting Fauci going to do? The guy was just trying to do his job, even if the messaging from the CDC, much like the WHO and other health organizations, was rather inconsistent because they all lacked information in the early days of the pandemic. If anyone should be prosecuted, it should be the people who let big pharma release vaccines onto the general public while giving them a full pass on liability of any life altering/ending side effects causing lawsuits.

Day by day, Elon just gets further and further out of touch with reality while he swims deeper into the depths of insanity.

[Paranoid Android]

I mean, he's been doing this shit with covid since the start.

Spent the first year+ downplaying its seriousness, got it twice, downplayed vaccines etc. etc. etc.

He's basically just one of the Mercers, but he loves publicity. I do wonder if he'll take over funding of Breitbart soon, and since he has uncompromising support of Freeze Peach he can go pay to host a bunch of kiddy porn sites and Nazi forums while he's at his.

So yea, don't want to go into a long covid tirade but Elon got covid twice, which I wonder what he was able to do? Isolate himself and get the best medical treatment afforded by the rich. What were all the drugs that Trump was able to access and Joe Rogan and others. Well guess what, not available to hi workers. If his workers got sick they lost time off and You Know; possible death.

Getting hit by the pandemic we needed guidelines for almost all the public. Since having people get sick, take up hospital beds and die is not a good thing. These selfish assholes who can just sit back and have so many privileges that that average person cannot.

This moron is getting roasted on Twitter:

[eschatological]

Considering none of what you said was in my comment, no. I was explicitly talking about instances like the lawsuit that Twitter is facing for allowing CSE to be shared on their platform. Sure, they might have dealt with some instances of pedophilia on their platform, but when they chose to ignore constant requests for takedowns of illegal content until the FBI and DHS got involved, it puts into question their effectiveness in dealing with pedophile rings.

Do you have any source about Twitter ignoring actual child porn on Twitter when reported (IE, when they had seen it?) Because again, this is a popular right wing theory, and it's never had any actual sources, or, as the poster who replied to you said, was talking about trans youth or drag shows as pedophilia and trying to get it taken down/barred as pedophilia.

[Edge-]

Do you have any source about Twitter ignoring actual child porn on Twitter when reported (IE, when they had seen it?) Because again, this is a popular right wing theory, and it's never had any actual sources, or, as the poster who replied to you said, was talking about trans youth or drag shows as pedophilia and trying to get it taken down/barred as pedophilia.

The same crowd seems infinitely more concerned about imaginary CP all over social media websites like Twitter than they ever were about the actually known, verifiable CP on sits like 8chin or how it can be/is spread on encrypted social media platforms like Telegram.

Almost like the issue isn't so much the child pornography, but so much how they can weaponize fears over child pornography against specific platforms they dislike.

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https://twitter.com/RogerJStoneJr/st...27272037416961

Elon goes from incredibly popular and a welcome addition to any gathering of celebrities or famous people, to appealing to the likes of Roger fucking Stone.

He's turned into such a boring, "vanilla" right winger well on the path to extremism. Like, good fucking lord, how fucking boring, he's just repeating the same "I identify as" joke that's like, 80% of the conservative joke book at this point.

[Cthulhu 2020]

The same crowd seems infinitely more concerned about imaginary CP all over social media websites like Twitter than they ever were about the actually known, verifiable CP on sits like 8chin or how it can be/is spread on encrypted social media platforms like Telegram.

We've known the right are all opportunists for awhile. They don't actually care about these issues. The issues only become important when it's convenient to push a political narrative they find favorable. Things are only issues when it can be weaponized against the left. It's a big reason they hate the left so much.

Lest we forget, this whole debacle started as complaints about "free speech" (which we know were shit) but they wrung their hands incessantly promising they just wanted to free the speech. Now that Musk has come out of the closet as a right winger, they're cheering on Twitter being purged of libs. Go figure.

[Endus]

Do you have any source about Twitter ignoring actual child porn on Twitter when reported (IE, when they had seen it?) Because again, this is a popular right wing theory, and it's never had any actual sources, or, as the poster who replied to you said, was talking about trans youth or drag shows as pedophilia and trying to get it taken down/barred as pedophilia.

The more important point is that if you're anti-child-porn, you're inherently pro-censorship and anti-absolute-free-speech.

And conversely, if you're anti-censorship (all censorship, I mean), and pro-absolute-free-speech, you're necessarily a supporter of child porn. Not necessarily a consumer of such, mind you. I'm not suggesting they're all pedos. But they definitely all support pedos and the abuse of children.

Once you acknowledge some censorship (like censoring child porn) is okay, and some speech (again, like child porn) should be illegal and punishable, you can't honestly make those ridiculous arguments any more. And if you won't give that up, we're back to you supporting child porn.

[Cthulhu 2020]

So there's a certain Twitter account called @elonJet. The account itself tracks Musk's personal jet and all flights it takes. This is all information that exists in the public sphere. The account has been suppressed to oblivion, making it never show up on timelines even when following it.

So about that free speech..

[Slant]

"LUL UR MAD". Grow up dude. We're having a discussion on the internet. The only source of information on how much cash Musk got from his father is Musk himself, so I choose to take that $20k figure with a huge grain of salt. He's been suing people and paying media companies to push and preserve this image of a self made billionaire. But he's far more like Trump than you seem to want to admit. He's not done much of anything on his own in his life. He wasn't a Tesla founder, but when he kicked the actual Tesla founders out, he sued to call himself the founder.

This twitter debacle shows that he's a manchild with thin skin. One only needs to look back a few pages to see his tantrums banning people for making fun of him, even when they followed the rules. He's a petulant child.

And most indicting of all, his claim that this was about freedom of speech is pure BS. He's doing this to control the narrative. I'd say the fortunate part is that he's been transparent about that. But despite his clear admission of malfeasance in regards to the future of Twitter, his fans continue to insist it was some noble act for free speech.

You're not having a discussion. You're crusading. Unless you have evidence, whatever you say is just as crazy as the people "worshipping Elon" as you put it. Either way, I'm in neither camp and you've overstepped your debate position and made a lot of dumb assumptions that make you look like a fool. His similarities with Trump end with him being an eccentric rich guy that thinks he can play with companies and the lives of people like toys.

That is something you could probably say about all of the billionaires. I don't think your irrational desire to clump Trump and Elon Musk together is going to hold up to some scrutiny. But it makes for a nice narrative, I bet. If you live in a simple world where everything is black and white, that is.

Let it all out, though. Go on, I'm sure there's more you want to get off your chest regarding Elon Musk.

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Are you seriously going to argue that having powerful parents with unlimited connections and ressources don't greatly increase the odds of becoming a billionaire?

I'm saying there's a difference between having connected parents (virtually everyone in Conneticut's country clubs is connected that way) and inheriting a fortune. See, on the Buddenbrock's scale, Elon is the peak, Trump is the decline. But if you're used to one-dimensional thinking in black and white, I guess "duh, billionaire!" is where you stop looking at the issue and decide they are basically one and the same.

Shows some proper lack of reflection, but you do you.

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The more important point is that if you're anti-child-porn, you're inherently pro-censorship and anti-absolute-free-speech.

And conversely, if you're anti-censorship (all censorship, I mean), and pro-absolute-free-speech, you're necessarily a supporter of child porn. Not necessarily a consumer of such, mind you. I'm not suggesting they're all pedos. But they definitely all support pedos and the abuse of children.

Once you acknowledge some censorship (like censoring child porn) is okay, and some speech (again, like child porn) should be illegal and punishable, you can't honestly make those ridiculous arguments any more. And if you won't give that up, we're back to you supporting child porn.

Er... I get that you're trying to make a point. But in what world do we have to write a post like you just did? Like, what the actual fuck, step back and look at what you just wrote, or rather the way you wrote it. You have to point out that there are anti-child-porn people? You mean, normal fucking human beings? People have got to shut the fuck up, stop hurting their brains trying to philosophize legal concepts too complicated for them and continue trodding through their dull, meaningless lives without trying to reinvent the wheel. We've had bloody revolutions in Europe to come up with these simple concepts, let's try not to do that again if we don't have to. We don't need to rediscover that things like personal liberties aren't unlimited and must stop where they infringe on other people's personal liberties.

What a sad state society is in.

Edit: No, I don't mean you should stop posting, Endus. I mean the people you're responding to should stop posting. Forever. Or until they have thought about their posts for a decade or two and realised how mindbogglingly horrible the core of their arguments typically are.

[Flarelaine]

Considering how the thread became unambiguously and viciously political, I've moved it from General Offtopic to Politics.

[Cthulhu 2020]

You're not having a discussion. You're crusading.

The hilarious part being that you're the one preaching without any desire for discussion. But you slay, queen.

His similarities with Trump end with him being an eccentric rich guy that thinks he can play with companies and the lives of people like toys.

Even Musk himself said he was going to put his thumbs on the scales of politics.

That is something you could probably say about all of the billionaires. I don't think your irrational desire to clump Trump and Elon Musk together is going to hold up to some scrutiny. But it makes for a nice narrative, I bet. If you live in a simple world where everything is black and white, that is.

Trump and Musk have both spent their affluent lives pretending to take credit for the accomplishments of others. It's been well documented over the course of this thread in many instances that Musk has barely done anything to deserve the wealth he's gotten. He was in the right place at the right time with the dot com boom, but even that company was mostly FUNDED by him. All of the work was done by his employees. Musk was notorious for overworking his employees, demanding they work massive overtime and not paying them any extra. In fact, often paid them a pittance that a 40 hour office worker would scoff at. But people thought he had a "vision". He then spent the rest of his life pretending he's the genius behind everything, when in reality he's a malignant task master with a whip.

Could read the above paragraph and switch Trump with Musk and it would still be true. Trump spent most of his life taking credit for other's accomplishments, while pawning failures off on fall guys. Their rise to fortune is so hilariously similar that any fifth grader with their head not up their ass could see it. I'm not going to go compile Musk and Trump's entire life stories for the comparison, but you seem to think yourself smart (though this feels dubious at best) I'm sure you can go find all the historical stories on this.


But for one final cherry on the cake, when Musk failed a rescue effort of men in a mine and another dude succeeded, Musk's strategy was to... call him a pedophile. It's hilarious how every time Musk gets one-upped, he starts screaming "PEDOPHILE" at the top of his lungs hoping some gullible wealth worshippers will jump on the bandwagon.

[Draco-Onis]

I'm saying there's a difference between having connected parents (virtually everyone in Conneticut's country clubs is connected that way) and inheriting a fortune. See, on the Buddenbrock's scale, Elon is the peak, Trump is the decline. But if you're used to one-dimensional thinking in black and white, I guess "duh, billionaire!" is where you stop looking at the issue and decide they are basically one and the same.

Shows some proper lack of reflection, but you do you.

I already made that point perhaps you should read before posting my point is that they share a similar background and that the self made claims are ludicrous. There's an obvious reason that all these billionaires claim self made even though it's extremely rare their egos. Even with their accomplishments they feel the need to lie about their background, Elon's parents owned mines they weren't just regular rich.

Elon won the birth lottery that doesn't take away from his accomplishments but these are the facts. It also doesn't change the fact that he is as much of a liar, charlatan and thin skin as Trump. Perhaps you can learn to see the obvious and not cling to the marketing of desperate men who fear criticism.

[Darththeo]

So there's a certain Twitter account called @elonJet. The account itself tracks Musk's personal jet and all flights it takes. This is all information that exists in the public sphere. The account has been suppressed to oblivion, making it never show up on timelines even when following it.

So about that free speech..

Did anyone actually think that Elon actually cared about free speech?

[Poopymonster]

Did anyone actually think that Elon actually cared about free speech?

Muskovites still do!

[diller]

https://twitter.com/davidhogg111/sta...11865242492928

This post with 70k likes points out that someone who has no right wing interests is being forced to view right wing dogma and propaganda in their timeline

I still don't think it just happens, if you engage in politics you will see political stuff, also from the other side.

If you aren't making political statements and don't follow politics in general I'm pretty that it won't happen, the examples in your link seem to be active in discussing politics, or maybe I have just been lucky!!!

(I did see a little political drama since I follow Stephen King but that is it)

[Darththeo]

Muskovites still do!

You mean the people who think he invented Tesla? Yeah, I don't think their opinions should count.

[NED funded]

Musk is growing into deranged right wing ideology but mocking pronouns is always good

[solinari6]

but mocking pronouns is always good

Because who wants to live in a polite society, when we can treat people like shit?