Elon Musk Buys Twitter

[Cthulhu 2020]

I like how people have gotten caught up in the "technical" defintion of what doxxing is, in an attempt to justify it as doxxing. The real argument should be, does tracking Elon's jet actually put him in danger?

The answer is NO. Absolutely not.

With a private jet, you deplane in an area where people normally are not allowed to go. And especially for Elmo, he's likely deplaning with his security detail and getting straight into his car. Add on top of that Airports have some of the highest security of any locations in the nation.

So no, nobody is going to find Elmo because of his jet info. Anyone who thinks posting his flight info on twitter presents a danger is absolutely fucking stupid. If someone really wanted to hunt down Elmo, they'd go find his jet info from another source and then figure out how to get guns through the security of that airport, figure out how to unlock the doors to get on the tarmac, etc.

Elmo is either paranoid, or he's embarassed by just how much he uses his own private jet to get around after CLAIMING he's for the environment.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Let's also not forget that Tesla isn't profitable on its own. It's only profitable because it sells carbon credits. In other words, Tesla tracks its carbon emissions, showing that it has very low carbon emissions, giving it carbon credits that it can sell to other companies that are polluting more carbon than they should be.

The most hilarious part? Most of the right believes carbon credits are a giant scam. And to be fair, they're kinda right. But Elmo loves his carbon credits.

[Okacz]

There are free flight trackers available on the Apple App Store.

There are also several cruise ship trackers online as well.

If tracking flights is doxxing then United Airlines has been doxxing their own passengers for years now on their own website.

If Elon does not want his jet tracked, sell it and just hire private company with multiple jets to fly him around. Itineraries are tracked, cargo manifests are not. No one will know which jet he is on.

Or he can ban accounts that focus on tracking his movements. Sounds faster, and with lower amount of fallout, as if he flew with a squadron of anti-tracking planes people would cause an uproar twice as hard as about the bans.

All the tools you mentioned are fine and dandy, but as we see can be used for, well, questionable reasons. It's fun to see what planes are flying over you, sure. But synchronizing data from multiple instances of such applications to constantly track the movements of one person, and setting up accounts for people to congregate and watch this movement (people that have dislike for this particular person in common), well, while it's "technically legal", it's also completly fucked up.

[Hypasonic]

Damn, the twitter files 6 is interesting to say the least.

[Cthulhu 2020]

All the tools you mentioned are fine and dandy, but as we see can be used for, well, questionable reasons.

What exactly has happened as a result of planes being tracked?

If you watched the interview with the kid who ran @elonjet, he was a fan of Elmo.

[Calfredd]

Damn, the twitter files 6 is interesting to say the least.

I was especially shocked that Elon's favorite color was purple and not blue!

[Edge-]

Damn, the twitter files 6 is interesting to say the least.

Are we learning anything we didn't already know?

Are we finding out more nefarious dealings like managers having secret meetings to discuss how enforce policy and how to update policy to cover new situations not currently covered?

Scandalous!

[postman1782]

Damn, the twitter files 6 is interesting to say the least.

Literally none of it has been all that damning, other than showing that Trump violated the first amendment while president.

[D Luniz]

It's not about breaking the law, it's about the public trust. If he's getting tax payer dollars to do stupid shit, the tax payers deserve to know. I don't give a fuck about the IRS. The tax system in the USA is tipped so heavily towards the rich and powerful that the scale has almost gone completely vertical. This is about letting the people know so they can hold the government accountable for stupid decisions, in this case, pandering to some rich jackass.

Still isn't doxxing, by the way. If I was a semi driver, and had a tracker on my semi that broadcasted my location to a publicly available website so anyone can check and see the route I'm taking and how far I am from drop-offs, I'm not going to flip out when someone makes a Twitter account spreading that information around. Because I'm the one who made it public in the first place.

EIT: Hell, we can even take it a step further. If the semi industry or company said, "In order to drive one of our trucks, you should know there's this tracker with the publicly available info on its location" to me, and I still agreed to work for them, then IT STILL WOULDN'T BE DOXXING. Which is, of course, basically what's going on with the Elon Jet.

Amazon, FedEX and UPS show your package's location, Amazon gives you a map, there is more of a case against having that (someone buys something cheap, then arranges to have some friends highjack that truck) than a plane that no one without the backing of a nation-state is likely able to threaten a airplane

[BrokenRavens]

Well this is interesting...

Twitter suspension of journalists sets "dangerous precedent": UN spokesperson



I generally see the UN as being rather toothless, but it is still interesting to watch how this is escalating.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Are we learning anything we didn't already know?

Are we finding out more nefarious dealings like managers having secret meetings to discuss how enforce policy and how to update policy to cover new situations not currently covered?

Scandalous!

The conservatives that are absolutely STARVED for any kind of conspiracy to jump on over the libs are eating up the Twitter files. The last 6 years have been AWFUL for conservatives, with numerous crimes and criminals across the entire right wing spectrum being exposed, they're feeling very attacked and are jumping on anything they can get. So NORMAL BUSINESS OPERATIONS (when framed in a nefarious manner) are giant scandals to them. It's a joke, and the conservatives are the punch line.

[Edge-]

The conservatives that are absolutely STARVED for any kind of conspiracy to jump on over the libs are eating up the Twitter files. The last 6 years have been AWFUL for conservatives, with numerous crimes and criminals across the entire right wing spectrum being exposed, they're feeling very attacked and are jumping on anything they can get. So NORMAL BUSINESS OPERATIONS (when framed in a nefarious manner) are giant scandals to them. It's a joke, and the conservatives are the punch line.

I'm just wondering what is being "revealed" this time, because so far from what I've seen it all falls into a few categories -

1. Shit we already knew (like that Twitter voluntarily took down the Hunter laptop story without government pressure or request).
2. Shit that shows that they had systems in place that worked, like the system for either political party to request misinformation or revenge porn be taken down. That one party requested it more than the other is absolutely down to one party spreading it more than another and there are reems of data to back this up that Taibbi or whatever dumbass doing this shit ignores.
3. Absolutely normal, pedestrian, standard behind-the-scenes daily operations for a business, deliberating policy and trying to resolve issues that their current policies don't cover.

Like, it's truly been the most boring shit I've read in a long time, and that anyone thinks there's anything remotely "sensational" or even interesting to me blows my god-damned mind. Have these people never held jobs? I get that not everyone has worked in a more corporate environment, but these are things that should be familiar to anyone who's worked in any professional environment.

[Breccia]

Damn, the twitter files 6 is interesting to say the least.

No, they aren't.

FOX News just posted this article about how nobody is talking about them, and instead, focusing on Elon Musk blocking journalists. They're so uninteresting, nobody is talking about them...except FOX News and their viewers desperate to make something out of nothing.

[Iliena]

It's almost like Elmo didn't know a lot of things when he accidentally bought Twitter... like his actions would have legit legal ramifications outside the US!

[D Luniz]

and doesnt Musk have the first major interest payment due in mid Jan?

[arandomuser]

tesla stock down again, i wonder how far it will go down because its over valued and GM/ford are both making better quality electric vehicles and selling more, elon wont ever go bankrupt ( i think ) but i think hes the first person to lose 100 billion because he watched some anti sjw gaming youtube channel and changed his politics all of the sudde, basically a gamer circa 2014-2016. Instead he could of just enjoyed being the worlds richest person and not buying twitter over a political grievance, or such a petty one- remember his original decision to buy twitter was motivated by babylon bee being suspended for some trans joke, which as a thick skinned person himself just couldnt handle that offensive content was banned

[Cthulhu 2020]

Jack forcing Elmo to buy Twitter was the biggest troll move. He's bankrupting Musk, and Musk is just going far right in an effort to grift money from the gullible rubes to try and keep himself afloat all while Tesla stocks tumble like a brick in water and Twitter is a black hole for money.

For every Twitter post where there's some anti Musk meme, there's a bunch of "The left can't meme" responses which basically means they're upset that the meme is making fun of their messiah Elmo Muzk.

[Breccia]

Earlier I pointed out that FOX News seemed upset that nobody else was covering the Twitter files, that they were all too busy poinint out that Musk was banning journalists to care about part six of the "there's nothing here" release.

Turns out, FOX and Friends earlier that same day called out Musk for exactly that. While it wasn't 100% consensus, the hosts that backed everything from an adultering thief in the WH to literal treason didn't seem to care for Elon Musk going after their profession.

Related: Musk is asking investors for more money. Specifically, he's offering to sell more equity in the company, at the same $44 billion pro-rated value as he bought the company for.

"Didn't he say that was an overinflated price?"

Yes.

"Didn't he have to be dragged to a Delaware court, where he was forced at figurative gunpoint to pay that?"

Yes.

"Why would anyone pay Musk the same rate that Musk himself said was a stupid idea -- even before Musk intentionally damaged the company?"

They probably won't. The smart move would be to wait until Musk holds a fire sale and buy it for pennies on the dollar.

[postman1782]

Well this is interesting...

Twitter suspension of journalists sets "dangerous precedent": UN spokesperson



I generally see the UN as being rather toothless, but it is still interesting to watch how this is escalating.

I wouldn't be surprised with Musk getting rid of the council they had, that the EU bans it again til they bring it back.

[Kathranis]

The ideal here is that Musk manages to move everyone off complaining about being "doxxed". It's not really a thing, let's stop trying to make it a thing so that you can look like a victim on social media.

Doxxing is absolutely a thing, and has lead to violence, breaking and entering, property damage, etc.

But air traffic data is hardly private, for obvious reasons, and the "private" in "private plane" is just a term for planes that are owned or chartered independent of the airline industry; it doesn't confer any actual privacy to the owner or passengers.