Elon Musk Buys Twitter

[Jastall]

Some billionaires just get their kicks trolling the SEC and manipulating markets. WHY DO YOU WANT TO STOP BILLIONAIRES FROM HAVING FUN BY ENGAGING IN ILLEGAL ACTIVITES?! WHY DO YOU HATE FREEDOM!?

Ye, the whole Starlink in Ukraine thing remains good but it's not like Musk has always backed up his online boasts and promises, such as the whole "I'll make ventilators for COVID" thing, while not forgetting the entire nonsense around those trapped children in Thailand. And with him being a primary driving force behind crypto, NFTs and associated scams, plus his tax-dodging shenanigans and how Tesla abuses its employees almost as much as Amazon it seems, I surely can't say he's a good guy at all.

Doesn't mean I hate him, there's far worse people out there far more deserving of that, but rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar's must include both the good and the bad. If he wants to buy Twitter just to be able to shitpost harder, as someone here said, then let him do so. It's a uniquely bad source of information in the first place I daresay.

[Endus]

Because examples of Twitter removing posts for content moderation that didn't necessarily violate any rules are difficult to dig up because they were removed. I'll try though, for you Bomber.

Admitting you don't have even a single example but want us to treat your claims as non-imaginary regardless is absolutely fuckin' ridiculous.

You're making this shit up, out of nothing, and worse, you know​ it. BecauseBecause you just admitted so.

[Zan15]

According to WSJ, he has secured $13 billion in loans from investment banks including Morgan Stanley, Bank of America Corp., Barclays PLC and MUFG Bank Ltd., and a $12.5 billion margin loan secured by a portion of his stake in Tesla. So, he is short 18.5B. He could cover the margin loan out of his own bank account or take out another loan. Apparently, if he can't finalize the financing by the October deadline, he will owe Twitter 1B in penalty.

He apparently only has 3 billion in liquid assets.

A lot of his tesla stock is locked under options that he can't sell yet.
Even the options he just brought he can't use. They are locked for 5 years and he can only sell to pay taxes on buying the options.

He also apparently has a lot of other "secured" loans on a lot of his tesla stock already.

I really wonder how much this guy is really worth and how much in loans he is currently sitting on.


Then he's going to load up the debt on a debtless company that has no profits.
Well that should work out well, it always does when hedge funds and mitt romney did it.

[Al Gorefiend]

Ye, the whole Starlink in Ukraine thing remains good but it's not like Musk has always backed up his online boasts and promises, such as the whole "I'll make ventilators for COVID" thing, while not forgetting the entire nonsense around those trapped children in Thailand. And with him being a primary driving force behind crypto, NFTs and associated scams, plus his tax-dodging shenanigans and how Tesla abuses its employees almost as much as Amazon it seems, I surely can't say he's a good guy at all.

Doesn't mean I hate him, there's far worse people out there far more deserving of that, but rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar's must include both the good and the bad. If he wants to buy Twitter just to be able to shitpost harder, as someone here said, then let him do so. It's a uniquely bad source of information in the first place I daresay.

I like your presentation. I think if you dig deep into the lives of any billionaire you'll find the skeletons in the closet. Despite his lack of charisma and oftentimes dubious ethics I do think he's intelligent and not that hateable of a guy. Of all the worlds billionaires he seems to be having the most fun, I can say that about him.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Because examples of Twitter removing posts for content moderation that didn't necessarily violate any rules are difficult to dig up because they were removed. I'll try though, for you Bomber.

Find me an example of someone actually complaining about their totally non-violating posts getting removed then.

Cuz right now it just looks like your entire argument is "it's happening because Elon Musk said so".

[Edge-]

Find me an example of someone actually complaining about their totally non-violating posts getting removed then.

Cuz right now it just looks like your entire argument is "it's happening because Elon Musk said so".

That's the neat part: They can't!

If you never actually produce evidence of your fictional persecution, you can be perpetually persecuted...fictionally!

[Al Gorefiend]

Admitting you don't have even a single example but want us to treat your claims as non-imaginary regardless is absolutely fuckin' ridiculous.

You're making this shit up, out of nothing, and worse, you know​ it. BecauseBecause you just admitted so.

You seem to think I'm taking a stance on something.

[PC2]

Ye, the whole Starlink in Ukraine thing remains good but it's not like Musk has always backed up his online boasts and promises, such as the whole "I'll make ventilators for COVID" thing, while not forgetting the entire nonsense around those trapped children in Thailand. And with him being a primary driving force behind crypto, NFTs and associated scams, plus his tax-dodging shenanigans and how Tesla abuses its employees almost as much as Amazon it seems, I surely can't say he's a good guy at all.

Those aren't real problems though, there's nothing wrong with crypto or NFT or lowering your taxes...

[Edge-]

You seem to think I'm taking a stance on something.

You did earlier as you parroted Musks unbacked claims and celebrated him.

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...5#post53738805

Can you even post sources for the "Twitter employees expressing fear and concern over the removal of their various means of censorship"?

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

I know him most recently before all of this as the guy who launched Starlink over Ukraine to assist in a massive human rights disaster

I remember him as the guy who said he would sell Tesla Stocks if someone showed him how $6B could help solve World Hunger. A plan was presented. Still waiting on that $6B.

[Al Gorefiend]

That's the neat part: They can't!

If you never actually produce evidence of your fictional persecution, you can be perpetually persecuted...fictionally!

Read back to me where I said I had undeniable proof Twitter is censoring people and Elon Musk is here to save the day. I came into the thread with a "maybe he's right?" approach when Twitter employees expressed anger over Musk's acquisition knowing he will loosen content moderation. If what Musk is saying is happening actually is happening, how does he reach this opinion in the first place.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

You seem to think I'm taking a stance on something.

Claiming that something is happening when you can't prove it is "taking a stance". It's a bad stance to take. But it's still a stance.

[Edge-]

Read back to me where I said I had undeniable proof Twitter is censoring people and Elon Musk is here to save the day. I came into the thread with a "maybe he's right?" approach when Twitter employees expressed anger over Musk's acquisition knowing he will loosen content moderation. If what Musk is saying is happening actually is happening, how does he reach this opinion in the first place.

Still waiting on those links, bro!

[Al Gorefiend]

Still waiting on those links, bro!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...mployees-musk/

[Edge-]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...mployees-musk/

“Totally understand that this is entertainment for some,” one employee tweeted. “But please understand that this is certainly not entertainment for me.”

“The news today is so crazy I literally forgot I have COVID,” another tweeted.

“Elon did not tie up 20 percent of his net worth to destroy Twitter,” a Twitter employee told The Post, noting that the company was behind its peers on many fronts. “I personally think a change like this may be what Twitter needs.” The employee described being “cautiously optimistic” about Musk.

“I don’t know any non-engineer who works on health issues who sees how this helps,” said a Twitter employee in an interview in response to questions about Musk’s ownership, referring to the company’s health division that enforces rules against harmful content such as hate speech and misinformation. “Most find it dispiriting.”

Every quoted employee from the article. Please highlight the ones that back up your assertion they're worried about losing access to "censorship" tools as you've claimed.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Still waiting on those links, bro!

He's already started moving those goalposts. He's gone from "removal of their various means of censorship" to "loosen content moderation"

The Twitter employees expressing fear and concerns over the removal of their various means of censorship tells me exactly why Elon wanted to purchase it and why he did.

[Al Gorefiend]

He's already started moving those goalposts. He's gone from "removal of their various means of censorship" to "loosen content moderation"

Literally using those words interchangeably but go off

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

If what Musk is saying is happening actually is happening, how does he reach this opinion in the first place.

A persecution complex.

[Al Gorefiend]

A persecution complex.

Can you provide a link he has a persecution complex?

[Edge-]

Literally using those words interchangeably but go off

They're literally not interchangable.

"means of censorship" has an inherently negative implication to it

"loosen content moderation" is vague and what does it mean? Will it allow hardcore porn? Graphic violence? What kind of content are we talking about here?