Elon Musk Buys Twitter

[Sorshen]

Based on feedback from some alt-right crypto scammers, Elon is now saying only twitter blue subscribers will be able to vote, and major policy change will be up to vote. Took less than 2 months to go from free speech to 8 bucks speech.

[Edge-]

Based on feedback from some alt-right crypto scammers, Elon is now saying only twitter blue subscribers will be able to vote, and major policy change will be up to vote. Took less than 2 months to go from free speech to 8 bucks speech.

I mean, it's a fairly accurate recreation of our current political system.

Technically everyone "votes", but the people in power primarily listen to those that give them money and their votes count more.

[Corvus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/commen...mment/j0vxqcy/



Only hanging around with the best people.

And to this end, I'll bring this back: https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...n-war-00061894



Elom is just another useful idiot.

It is possible he didn't know who she was and just thought it was some woman wanting a selfie, but it still warrants an investigation in case it wasn't.

[Edge-]

It is possible he didn't know who she was and just thought it was some woman wanting a selfie, but it still warrants an investigation in case it wasn't.

Big, "Why am I always surrounded by genuinely terrible people? It's a total coincidence and accident, I tells ya!" energy.

I'm so incredibly not inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt, especially since he knows how much of a piece of shit Kushner is. And if he's going to something like that, generally you'd want to have an assistant or someone finding out all the other big name people going so you aren't surprised or caught in any awkward situations. Though last I heard he fired his assistant after she asked for a raise, so maybe not.

Either way, from the guy who was shitposting DBZ fusion memes with him and Kanye a month or two ago, I'm not buying it.

[Gestopft]

Based on feedback from some alt-right crypto scammers, Elon is now saying only twitter blue subscribers will be able to vote, and major policy change will be up to vote. Took less than 2 months to go from free speech to 8 bucks speech.

It's amazing all the hypocrisy that happens with these "free speech" bros. Also, between this guy, and Trump, and Epstein, etc....can we as a society agree to stop worshipping billionaires and maybe start making it so there...aren't any?

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Elom is just another useful idiot.

I'm trying to figure out why you call him "Elom," and the best guess I have is that it's "mole" spelled backwards??

[Sorshen]

My head hurts.

[Belize]

Based on feedback from some alt-right crypto scammers, Elon is now saying only twitter blue subscribers will be able to vote, and major policy change will be up to vote. Took less than 2 months to go from free speech to 8 bucks speech.

Vocem Populi pro octo denarii

[Cosmic Janitor]

It's amazing all the hypocrisy that happens with these "free speech" bros. Also, between this guy, and Trump, and Epstein, etc....can we as a society agree to stop worshipping billionaires and maybe start making it so there...aren't any?

Man, wouldn't that be nice? Alas I think too many people have the inherent desire to subject themselves to strong leading figures so they don't have to think for themselves. Ah well, I'm glad that we at least have reached the point where most people realize that Elron is full of shit, too bad he already practically founded a church of meme-spewing retardation and his cultists still believe everything he does has a higher purpose..

[beanman12345]

My head hurts.

That shit almost murdered as many braincells as the "Elon was doxxed" stupidity. I know there is a lot of overlap but Elon cult trying real hard to out dumb the Trump cultists.

[Paranoid Android]

Alright him banning people and possibly stepping down is boring. Let's get to Elon interacting with white nationalist account.



Link here shows them posting white supremacist rhetoric such as supporting Kanye: https://twitter.com/EladNehorai/stat...lnJrjCoCEnUUqw

He interacted with some other extreme right wing guy recently too. Forgot the name.

Elon is who he is. He enjoys interaction with the extreme right wing and here openly with white supremacist.

[NED funded]

I would be mad as hell if I bought a company that has been going bankrupt since may tbh

[jonnysensible]

I would be mad as hell if I bought a company that has been going bankrupt since may tbh

its quite funny tbh.

He was in the right place at the right time with paypal, didnt reinvent the wheel just saw his opportunity and took it.

He the brought what Tesla and started his myth making 'im going to save the world' and the idiots lapped it up, he didnt have any real competitors at the time

then with space x it was more of the same 'im going to save humanity', not many other people sending rocket deliveries to space, money for nothing noncompetitive market. getting fat on gov. contracts

the he decides to buy twitter, competitive market, the 'im saving humanity free speech' doesnt really appeal to anyone because its so obviously hollow and who cares and all of his old tricks just dont work.

imagine spending you life savings to become the mmo-c moderator, just pathetic.

he was a finance guy, not a inventor, just an investor. And he trolled twitter got called and is now failing at being the savvy finance guy.

90% of twitter revenue is advertising, the revenue was shrinking because twitter is not as big as facebook, google or tiktok. Musk has to pay 1.3 billion on the debt he now has annually, twitter has never made 1.3 billion. And unlike his other companies which he burnt investors money to keep going (telsa almost went bankrupt so did space x) he doesnt have that anymore.

And because of global market conditions debt is more expensive, belts are tightening and he has no plan.

Just cant see how he deals with the debt, but watching him liquidate his assets (tesla shares) to pay for the failure will be funny.

[Cthulhu 2020]

So Musk lost the poll to stay CEO of twitter and says it was all a honey pot trap to catch bots. This has mad "I lost the election/poll so I'm going to try to overthrow the election/claim it was some 5D chess move" vibes.

[Gabriel]

I'm losing the energy to give a shit about this topic, because I'm out of my depth and this was a stupid topic to start arguing about in the first place.

But, I won't concede my point about the definition of doxxing, and will address a couple of key points one more time.

I am, in fact, arguing that they do, and that defining a term like "doxxing" that broadly renders it meaningless and removes any negative connotations the word might otherwise have carried. And I have a problem with that.

It's exactly like vegas trying to define "murder" as including "eating meat". You can define it that way, but then "murdering a burger" isn't a negative in the first place and you just look fucking silly protesting it.


So you agree Elonjet was not "doxxing" anything?

It is you guys who are trying to define doxxing as something else than what it is. The entire term is derived from "dropping docs", i. e. releasing gathered information. It does not refer to the act of gathering said info. This is something that you ignore completely because for whatever reason it is more convenient for your argument to insist that it is the act of gathering the information via illegal means that would qualify something as doxxing.

You still haven't made an argument that Elon was "doxxed" or that anything the Elonjet account was doing was even ethically or morally shaky. The FAA was already publishing that information.

Just because it is public doesn't mean jack. The intent of releasing collecting information is what matters. Did Elonjet do it to publicly shame Musky? If yes, it is doxxing.

Whether or not this sort of doxxing is illegal is up to the law. Personally I'd like it if this sort of stuff wasn't legal.

Is it the re-broadcasting of already-broadcast information? Because if re-posting someone's Facebook info is a violation, it's the same violation the user committed in posting it to Facebook in the first place. I'm struggling to see any validity to there being a meaningful difference to be had between the two.

If you go through someone's facebook page and mark down all the dates they've been on holidays, where they stop to get their coffee, what kind of car they drive, make a web illustration of their social relationships, and then write it all in a single document and post it on your facebook page, that is doxxing.

That's the ADS-B Exhange's tracking map for Elon's jet. They track all aircraft via publicly available flight information. He's left Luton Airport in the UK and is currently coming in over Labrador (at time of writing; you can backtrack its history on the site and it's gonna get updated if you're reading this in a few hours). Can get his altitude and airspeed and all kinds of other info. Like is available for every commercial or private plane. Am I "doxxing"? Or is linking to a website with publicly-tracked information just frickin' normal activity?

Technically if you do it with the intention shaming him or targeting him for other people, yes, you are doxxing when you post a link following his specific plane.

[Huehuecoyotl]

I'm losing the energy to give a shit about this topic, because I'm out of my depth and this was a stupid topic to start arguing about in the first place.

But, I won't concede my point about the definition of doxxing, and will address a couple of key points one more time.



It is you guys who are trying to define doxxing as something else than what it is. The entire term is derived from "dropping docs", i. e. releasing gathered information. It does not refer to the act of gathering said info. This is something that you ignore completely because for whatever reason it is more convenient for your argument to insist that it is the act of gathering the information via illegal means that would qualify something as doxxing.




Just because it is public doesn't mean jack. The intent of releasing collecting information is what matters. Did Elonjet do it to publicly shame Musky? If yes, it is doxxing.

Whether or not this sort of doxxing is illegal is up to the law. Personally I'd like it if this sort of stuff wasn't legal.




If you go through someone's facebook page and mark down all the dates they've been on holidays, where they stop to get their coffee, what kind of car they drive, make a web illustration of their social relationships, and then write it all in a single document and post it on your facebook page, that is doxxing.




Technically if you do it with the intention shaming him or targeting him for other people, yes, you are doxxing when you post a link following his specific plane.

The reason you keep having this argument, and the reason you're getting frustrated, is that you've come up with your own personal definition of doxxing that doesn't fit any dictionary, and doesn't fit in with the facts of this situation. And you're refusing to back down on the position you've taken despite being proved to be in the wrong multiple times, by several different posters.

The information relating to Musk's jet isn't private. It's information that is already in the public domain. It isn't publicly identifying him, because the jet is already being linked to Musk in the aforementioned public information. It isn't changing anything about that information in any way that can be said to be malicious, because it simply reports on when the jet has travelled from A to B. Which, again, is from publicly available data.

This information is being published in a way that highlights what Musk is doing in terms of private jet travel, and it's even possible that he finds that embarrassing. But that doesn't make it illegal, and it doesn't make it doxxing. To be honest it's only been Musks response to this situation that has caused it to be so well known; are you suggesting that the Streisand Effect is doxxing?

This stance you're taking is not healthy. Your inability to change your position despite being shown objective proof that you are wrong, is not a good way to be in general. This is not some kind of zero sum game; it's possible for both sides in a debate to come out with more information, a better understanding and a changed position. Then maybe you'd stop being so frustrated.

[Cthulhu 2020]

On top of it not being doxxing, Elmo almost certainly took the account down because it was showing that he was taking 4-5 trips in a single day, often using up the carbon footprint that a single human uses in 10 years. The guy makes his business profitable selling carbon credits, otherwise Tesla would be an unprofitable business. He's a liar, a hypocrite, and a thin skinned pansy.

[Gabriel]

The reason you keep having this argument, and the reason you're getting frustrated, is that you've come up with your own personal definition of doxxing that doesn't fit any dictionary, and doesn't fit in with the facts of this situation. And you're refusing to back down on the position you've taken despite being proved to be in the wrong multiple times, by several different posters.

I'm not even going to read the rest of your post because this is indeed starting to piss me off.

Every single definition of doxxing that anyone has posted in this thread says that the act of doxxing specifically refers to releasing the collected information. Yet you guys have this pathological need to try to force your own definition that allows you to shit on Musk, even when there are thousands of better ways to shit on Musk.

So, in conclusion: I have far better use for my infraction point budget than to continue arguing about semantics with people that I normally agree about everything on, since at this point there is nothing left to say except personal attacks after logic has gone out of the windows at the point where people started to claim that surely it is every goddamn definition available on the internet that is wrong, and not the consensus of this thread.

[Huehuecoyotl]

I'm not even going to read the rest of your post because this is indeed starting to piss me off.

Every single definition of doxxing that anyone has posted in this thread says that the act of doxxing specifically refers to releasing the collected information. Yet you guys have this pathological need to try to force your own definition that allows you to shit on Musk, even when there are thousands of better ways to shit on Musk.

So, in conclusion: I have far better use for my infraction point budget than to continue arguing about semantics with people that I normally agree about everything on, since at this point there is nothing left to say except personal attacks after logic has gone out of the windows at the point where people started to claim that surely it is every goddamn definition available on the internet that is wrong, and not the consensus of this thread.

So I refer you back to the question I asked earlier, that you pointedly didn't answer; how do you "release" something that is already in the public domain? Because clearly it isn't the MuskJet guy that is releasing this information. He's merely repeating it, unchanged. Which isn't doxxing by any definition I can find (like this dictionary for example).

[SoulForge]

I'm not even going to read the rest of your post because this is indeed starting to piss me off.

Every single definition of doxxing that anyone has posted in this thread says that the act of doxxing specifically refers to releasing the collected information. Yet you guys have this pathological need to try to force your own definition that allows you to shit on Musk, even when there are thousands of better ways to shit on Musk.

So, in conclusion: I have far better use for my infraction point budget than to continue arguing about semantics with people that I normally agree about everything on, since at this point there is nothing left to say except personal attacks after logic has gone out of the windows at the point where people started to claim that surely it is every goddamn definition available on the internet that is wrong, and not the consensus of this thread.

dox
verb
ˈdäks
variants or doxx
doxed or doxxed; doxing or doxxing; doxes or doxxes

transitive verb
informal
: to publicly identify or publish private information about (someone) especially as a form of punishment or revenge

Not Doxxing.

Hell Musk Dox'd himself when he told everyone on Twitter he'd be at Twitter HQ for the day not too long ago.

[Muzjhath]

I'm not even going to read the rest of your post because this is indeed starting to piss me off.

Every single definition of doxxing that anyone has posted in this thread says that the act of doxxing specifically refers to releasing the collected information. Yet you guys have this pathological need to try to force your own definition that allows you to shit on Musk, even when there are thousands of better ways to shit on Musk.

So, in conclusion: I have far better use for my infraction point budget than to continue arguing about semantics with people that I normally agree about everything on, since at this point there is nothing left to say except personal attacks after logic has gone out of the windows at the point where people started to claim that surely it is every goddamn definition available on the internet that is wrong, and not the consensus of this thread.

And had elonjet had to find non public information you'd be right.
It doesn't, all it does is in practice tge equivalent of linking a YouTube video to twitter with some extra steps