1. #281
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    And opinion, I'll point out, that breaks none of Twitters rules. It's garbage of the highest order (I assume this is true, I know the guy exists and is a far left dude or something but that's about it), but it's absolutely within Twitter's ToS guidelines.

    If we want to have a debate over Twitters at times uneven and nonsensical enforcement of their rules, that's a discussion to be had. But the particular example you cite does not break their rules.

    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1#post53738940

    There are all the rules, courtesy of Al Gorefiend. IF you can find a rule it breaks, let me know.
    And I agree, but by all definitions it's spreading disinformation the same as anyone else. You can't have it one way and not the other.
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    "America deserved 9/11"
    VS.
    "the 2020 election was stolen!"
    "China unleashed the COVID virus to undermine the US/the world"

    these are not in anyway the same in terms of "spreading disinformation".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    And opinion, I'll point out, that breaks none of Twitters rules. It's garbage of the highest order (I assume this is true, I know the guy exists and is a far left dude or something but that's about it), but it's absolutely within Twitter's ToS guidelines.
    It's not even that nuts. The USA has done a hell of a lot of geopolitical chicanery in the Middle East; nation-toppling and fueling rebellions and so on, all for the USA's gain at the cost of those living in the region, on all sides. They're not the only ones, but the Soviets already collapsed, and of whose left, the USA stands tallest, by a pretty wide margin.

    I definitely wouldn't agree with the word "deserved", because nobody deserved that kind of attack on a civilian population, but if it had been directed at US military installations or something? Yeah, that I could've seen as a valid counter-strike. Like, take Ukraine right now; if they could set off a bomb in the Kremlin and knock out most of the FSB and Putin himself, would anyone say that was "terrible" and "definitely wrong"? Or would Russia kinda deserve it? Assuming the damage is limited to said targets and isn't hitting the civilian population?

    The better way to phrase it is that 9/11 was in no way unprovoked. I don't agree the provocation was sufficient to justify an attack on a civilian building/population, but there's clearly provocation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxil View Post
    And I agree, but by all definitions it's spreading disinformation the same as anyone else. You can't have it one way and not the other.
    An opinion you don't like is not "disinformation". You're just flat-out using the word incorrectly.


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    which ones hasan the one who dresses like jimmy saville?

    nothing has changed yet, so i dont really know whats to discuss.

    Elon throwing himself into a quagmire is funny tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxil View Post
    And I agree, but by all definitions it's spreading disinformation the same as anyone else. You can't have it one way and not the other.
    ...is it, though? It's an opinion.


    "Ivermectin cures COVID," "Vaccines contain microchips," and "Trump won the 2020 election" aren't opinions, they're straight up lies. Empirical evidence exists to prove they are wrong. Stating them as fact is disinformation.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

  6. #286
    Quote Originally Posted by Axxil View Post
    And I agree, but by all definitions it's spreading disinformation the same as anyone else. You can't have it one way and not the other.
    How is it spreading disinformation? Specify here.

    It's his opinion as an individual. What "disinformation" is here?

  7. #287
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    How is it spreading disinformation? Specify here.

    It's his opinion as an individual. What "disinformation" is here?
    Anything that is wrong, be it opinion OR fact, is misinformation from the misinformed.

    Aside from that, Elon buying Twitter is a good thing.
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  8. #288
    Quote Originally Posted by Axxil View Post
    Oh nothing triggered me. Him saying that America deserved 9/11 was pretty cringe though, among other things.
    Will saying that "nuking Japan in WWII was justified" run afoul of whatever dumbass standard you've set up in your mind? Or is it just when someone badmouths American foreign policy (and its remifications) publicly?

  9. #289
    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    Will saying that "nuking Japan in WWII was justified" run afoul of whatever dumbass standard you've set up in your mind? Or is it just when someone badmouths American foreign policy (and its remifications) publicly?
    Neither of those two things are comparable.

    Also, without the two nukes people wouldn't have their precious anime waifus for their body pillows at night.
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  10. #290
    Quote Originally Posted by Axxil View Post
    Anything that is wrong, be it opinion OR fact, is misinformation from the misinformed.

    Aside from that, Elon buying Twitter is a good thing.
    So...you literally don't understand what "disinformation" or "misinformation" actually is then. I suggest looking up the definitions of those, and then the definition of an "opinion" before continuing this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxil View Post
    Anything that is wrong, be it opinion OR fact, is misinformation from the misinformed.

    Aside from that, Elon buying Twitter is a good thing.
    dude can end homelessness and world hunger but buying twitter is the real world saving investment....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxil View Post

    Also, without the two nukes people wouldn't have their precious anime waifus for their body pillows at night.
    lmfaooo. you have absolutely no room to complain about other people's hot takes. wowee.
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  12. #292
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    So...you literally don't understand what "disinformation" or "misinformation" actually is then. I suggest looking up the definitions of those, and then the definition of an "opinion" before continuing this conversation.
    "false or inaccurate information, especially that which is deliberately intended to deceive."

    "America deserved 9/11" is exactly that, false information intended to deceive his echo chamber.
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  13. #293
    Quote Originally Posted by Axxil View Post
    "false or inaccurate information, especially that which is deliberately intended to deceive."

    "America deserved 9/11" is exactly that, false information intended to deceive his echo chamber.
    I don't know how else to tell this to you, but you're wrong. But I get now why you seem supportive of this move and the context of the rest of your posts here, I think.

  14. #294
    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Hilarious that enforcing free speech causes such fervently negative reaction.
    Again, you won't get free speech on Twitter, you never have. And it won't change.

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    He'll be back, especially once the election cycle picks up.
    Nope, I can guarantee that Trump doesn't get unbanned.

  15. #295
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I don't know how else to tell this to you, but you're wrong. But I get now why you seem supportive of this move and the context of the rest of your posts here, I think.
    Wrong about the definition or wrong because I don't share the same dogshit way of thinking?

    This is literally all the guy guys, spews falsehoods to his own echo chamber with no repercussions because he's the extreme left poster boy and Cenk Uygur's nephew.
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  16. #296
    Quote Originally Posted by Axxil View Post
    Neither of those two things are comparable.
    You're right. America murdered upwards of a couple hundred thousand Japanese citizens when we bombed them. Those terrorists only managed to kill a few thousand.

  17. #297
    Quote Originally Posted by Axxil View Post
    Wrong about the definition or wrong because I don't share the same dogshit way of thinking?

    This is literally all the guy guys, spews falsehoods to his own echo chamber with no repercussions because he's the extreme left poster boy and Cenk Uygur's nephew.
    I literally don't even know what you're complaining about now, but you seem to be really upset with this Hassan dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxil View Post
    Wrong about the definition or wrong because I don't share the same dogshit way of thinking?
    whichever one makes you sound even a little less whiny about receiving any sort of pushback would be preferred.

  19. #299
    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    You're right. America murdered upwards of a couple hundred thousand Japanese citizens when we bombed them. Those terrorists only managed to kill a few thousand.
    Would you have the same opinion if we had dropped them on Germany? Because axis powers are axis powers.

    If you want my take on it...Japan absolutely deserved it. We should have retaliated the same way after 9/11, since you can actually compare that to Pearl Harbor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxil View Post
    We should have retaliated the same way after 9/11, since you can actually compare that to Pearl Harbor.
    was the hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqi and afghan civilians not enough to satisfy your blood lust?

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