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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    Huh, this can't be true. I was assured that his arrest was a sham, and that he'd be released within 24 hours. Surely his devoted followers couldn't have been wrong about something so serious.
    It's not that his devoted followers don't believe that these tapes or the things he admitted to don't exist. It's that they don't believe there is anything wrong with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynarii View Post
    It's not that his devoted followers don't believe that these tapes or the things he admitted to don't exist. It's that they don't believe there is anything wrong with it.
    I am fairly certain his fans fall into one or the other to be honest.

    I do believe most in the latter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darththeo View Post
    I am fairly certain his fans fall into one or the other to be honest.

    I do believe most in the latter.


    tl;dw. "those quotes are out of context!" and "it was a joke!" and maybe a bit of "the good he did outweighs the bad!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekh View Post


    tl;dw. "those quotes are out of context!" and "it was a joke!" and maybe a bit of "the good he did outweighs the bad!"
    Yeah, I am not surprised people defend him in that way.

    It is standard for any celebrity at this point.
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    Seeing some of these people defend Tate is mind boggling.

    Plus it's almost irrelevant whether he's a sex trafficker or not. Defending his comments about women being property, that they should be beaten and physically controlled suggests tacit support to sex trafficking anyway. There's very little distinction left to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkles View Post
    Seeing some of these people defend Tate is mind boggling.

    Plus it's almost irrelevant whether he's a sex trafficker or not. Defending his comments about women being property, that they should be beaten and physically controlled suggests tacit support to sex trafficking anyway. There's very little distinction left to make.
    This is why I role my eyes whenever someone says "There's no point in making laws on <insert topic>, since criminals don't obey laws anyway". Yeah, the laws didn't prevent Tate from being a sex trafficker. But you look at all his supporters and you realize just how many people DESPERATELY want to be sex traffickers as well, but don't simply because they're afraid of being caught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynarii View Post
    This is why I role my eyes whenever someone says "There's no point in making laws on <insert topic>, since criminals don't obey laws anyway". Yeah, the laws didn't prevent Tate from being a sex trafficker. But you look at all his supporters and you realize just how many people DESPERATELY want to be sex traffickers as well, but don't simply because they're afraid of being caught.
    This line of reasoning always makes me scratch my head.

    Yeah, criminals don't obey the law. That's why the laws have penalties for non-compliance attached to them.

    Hardly big brain stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drutt View Post
    This line of reasoning always makes me scratch my head.

    Yeah, criminals don't obey the law. That's why the laws have penalties for non-compliance attached to them.

    Hardly big brain stuff.
    The biggest problem is people who use that line of reasoning also don't use it consistently. If they like a particular law, the law is good. If they don't want to be inconvenienced by a law, the law doesn't matter and is bad.
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    Elon spents weeks cultivating MAGA replyguys, only to throw it all away....

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    Most of the support I see for Tate on Twitter is stuff along the lines of "Tate is like a father figure to me, my life was a mess but now I'm going to the gym, working out, and no longer blame myself for everything." The implication usually being they blame women, but oh well.

    You don't need Andrew Tate to tell you to go work out. There's tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of guys on the internet who will tell you to work out and hustle your job. You don't need a misogynistic sex trafficker to tell you to hit the gym.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    Most of the support I see for Tate on Twitter is stuff along the lines of "Tate is like a father figure to me, my life was a mess but now I'm going to the gym, working out, and no longer blame myself for everything." The implication usually being they blame women, but oh well.

    You don't need Andrew Tate to tell you to go work out. There's tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of guys on the internet who will tell you to work out and hustle your job. You don't need a misogynistic sex trafficker to tell you to hit the gym.
    Mike Cernovich did this same shtick years ago. No fap guerilla mind set. Everything old is new.
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    Normal should be reduced in difficulty. Heroic should be reduced in difficulty.
    And the tiny fraction for whom heroic raids are currently well tuned? Too bad,so sad! With the arterial bleed of subs the fastest it's ever been, the vanity development that gives you guys your own content is no longer supportable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Elon spents weeks cultivating MAGA replyguys, only to throw it all away....

    It isn't surprising. Elon was only going to be popular with them for so long.
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    https://apnews.com/article/technolog...45d9e24d7861b7

    And traitor Michael Flynn is back on Twitter. Elon really just wants Twitter to be host to all the worst people, doesn't he.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darththeo View Post
    It isn't surprising. Elon was only going to be popular with them for so long.
    Elon made his bag selling EVs to liberals. I really don't know what he thinks he's going to accomplish with this crowd, but it's obvious he needs affirmation wherever he can get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathranis View Post
    it's obvious he needs affirmation wherever he can get it.
    That sounds hugely, bigly familiar.

    Related: was Musk hoping Twitter would improve, hoping Trump would return and boost its traffic and there ad sales? Or would even that not be enough for him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://apnews.com/article/technolog...45d9e24d7861b7

    And traitor Michael Flynn is back on Twitter. Elon really just wants Twitter to be host to all the worst people, doesn't he.
    I hope it goes as well for Flynn as it did for Tate.
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    Musk fancies himself a military genius on top of everything else now.

    https://twitter.com/MarkHertling/sta...n1LYUkr2hNLYvg

    Needless to say actual experts are dunking on him. Russia is just inept at using them properly.

    Even Darth Putin is having a go at him.

    https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/st...n1LYUkr2hNLYvg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Musk fancies himself a military genius on top of everything else now.

    https://twitter.com/MarkHertling/sta...n1LYUkr2hNLYvg

    Needless to say actual experts are dunking on him. Russia is just inept at using them properly.

    Even Darth Putin is having a go at him.

    https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/st...n1LYUkr2hNLYvg
    And Richard fucking Garriott, rofl. Doesn't he have a crypto-MMO to beg people to fund, because his millions are too busy being spent on trips to orbit or the bottom of the ocean?

    Truly, we're getting some amazing examples of Dunning Krueger and also, "I'm just asking questions!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    And Richard fucking Garriott, rofl. Doesn't he have a crypto-MMO to beg people to fund, because his millions are too busy being spent on trips to orbit or the bottom of the ocean?

    Truly, we're getting some amazing examples of Dunning Krueger and also, "I'm just asking questions!"
    God, this is the worst news I've heard in a long time. Why must you do this to me. How the mighty have fallen.

    What people need to ultimately realize about crypto: It needs to be desirable above and beyond its potential to make money to actually make money. Bitcoin people wanted to buy drugs online, thus why so many people wanted to buy it.

    When it comes to MMO currencies, if that MMO currency becomes desirable enough that it's actually worth IRL money because people are willing to pay IRL money for it, the bots are going to destroy its value. Doesn't matter how bot unfriendly you try to make your game. Bots will win.
    Last edited by Cthulhu 2020; 2023-01-08 at 11:01 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    God, this is the worst news I've heard in a long time. Why must you do this to me. How the mighty have fallen.
    It gets better. He already e-begged to fund one game that he abandoned and ignores, and that technically exists despite gross mismanagement. Oh btw the guy running that game (Shroud of the Avatar) is also running the new crypto game Garriott is begging for even more money for.

    The grift never fucking ends, and because they did someone successful once they think that everyone really needs to hear their uninformed opinions on everything.

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