1. #301
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflakesz View Post
    Hopefully this will lead to some actual moderation.
    Start clearing out all the nutjobs listing mental illnesses in their bios, like it's some kind of competition.
    Mental illnesses like what? Being a conservative?

  2. #302
    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    was the hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqi and afghan civilians not enough to satisfy your blood lust?
    Spread out, sure. Quickly at once would have been more satisfying.
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  3. #303
    Quote Originally Posted by Axxil View Post
    Spread out, sure. Quickly at once would have been more satisfying.
    im starting to think i can work out why you might get banned from twitter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxil View Post
    Spread out, sure. Quickly at once would have been more satisfying.
    and I'm supposed to sit here and be convinced "America deserved 9/11" is a particularly hot take.

  5. #305
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    An opinion you don't like is not "disinformation". You're just flat-out using the word incorrectly.
    Just wait til Elon sets his sights on Prime Minister.
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  6. #306
    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    and I'm supposed to sit here and be convinced "America deserved 9/11" is a particularly hot take.
    I guess he came into this thread explicitly to bring it up and then prove it correct. Bold strategy.

  7. #307
    Quote Originally Posted by Axxil View Post
    "false or inaccurate information, especially that which is deliberately intended to deceive."

    "America deserved 9/11" is exactly that, false information intended to deceive his echo chamber.
    "America deserved 9/11" is an opinion... just like "Pepsi is better than Coke" is an opinion. It may not be an opinion you agree with...but it's still just an opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxil View Post
    Just wait til Elon sets his sights on Prime Minister.
    You're gonna have to explain that, since it seems like a complete nonsequitur.

    Were you trying to suggest Justin Trudeau should be worried about Musk? I think he can handle him just fine. Musk's just a techbro.


  9. #309
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    You're gonna have to explain that, since it seems like a complete nonsequitur.

    Were you trying to suggest Justin Trudeau should be worried about Musk? I think he can handle him just fine. Musk's just a techbro.
    Because Elon can run, and he would easily win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxil View Post
    Because Elon can run, and he would easily win.
    That's fuckin' hilarious. You have literally no idea what you're talking about.

    1> He's not a citizen.
    2> Gotta be resident in Canada.
    3> Gotta be part of the winning party.
    4> Gotta be chosen by that party to be PM, which isn't gonna happen in any world even if he manages the above three.

    You literally can't run for Prime Minister, dude. Maybe learn the fucking basics before spouting nonsense.


  11. #311
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    That's fuckin' hilarious. You have literally no idea what you're talking about.

    1> He's not a citizen.
    2> Gotta be resident in Canada.
    3> Gotta be part of the winning party.
    4> Gotta be chosen by that party to be PM, which isn't gonna happen in any world even if he manages the above three.

    You literally can't run for Prime Minister, dude. Maybe learn the fucking basics before spouting nonsense.
    He has dual citizenship, so he can run. Do you not know how your government works?

    *Actually he has triple citizenship between the US, Canada and South Africa. President of South Africa would be just as funny but not as effective.
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  12. #312
    Quote Originally Posted by Axxil View Post
    He has dual citizenship, so he can run. Do you not know how your government works?

    *Actually he has triple citizenship between the US, Canada and South Africa. President of South Africa would be just as funny but not as effective.
    He still needs to establish residency. He also needs to join a political party, become the PM candidate for that party, and win the election.

    He could run as an independant...but the best case scenario for him there is he wins a single seat. I'm sure he'd love to be an irrelevant back bencher.
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  13. #313
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    He still needs to establish residency. He also needs to join a political party, become the PM candidate for that party, and win the election.

    He could run as an independant...but the best case scenario for him there is he wins a single seat. I'm sure he'd love to be an irrelevant back bencher.
    While holding citizenship, retaining residence is instantaneous. So that wouldn't be an issue.
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  14. #314
    Quote Originally Posted by Axxil View Post
    While holding citizenship, retaining residence is instantaneous. So that wouldn't be an issue.
    No it isn't. You need to have spent at least 730 days in Canada over the last 5 years to retain residency.

    And again, he would still need to be accepted into one of the political parties and become that party's candidate.

    Go ask Maxime Bernier how well his "No vax, free speech" platform played out for his party during that last election...
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  15. #315
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    If that argument held water, non-profits wouldn't exist.

    They do, ergo your argument does not hold up.
    Non-profits are not companies.

  16. #316
    The panic over this is extremely funny. Twitter has always been owned by the elite. This isn't new.

    That being said, they absolutely ban you over ridiculous bullshit there that should never be bannable, sometimes with no reason, and an appeal process that refuses to let you talk to an actual person.

  17. #317
    The number of people outing themselves in this thread and elsewhere on my other feeds essentially saying ‘unregulated free speech is bad because people might lie or say mean things’ is… well really disheartening. Like on the one hand it’s vindication for me but on the other… China’s over there, maybe weibo is more your speed.

    That said we probably don’t want the ultra wealthy to single-handedly snap up Twitter or WaPo. I still support section 230 reform even if I personally like some of the things Musk says he wants to do with Twitter (open source anyone?). If you were ok with twitter last week, and suddenly aren’t today, you’ve got some soul searching to do. What is materially different now versus last week? There’s still a small cadre of elites controlling the town square. Unilateral control of the space is not a good thing regardless of who is calling the shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3thray View Post
    The number of people outing themselves in this thread and elsewhere on my other feeds essentially saying ‘unregulated free speech is bad because people might lie or say mean things’ is… well really disheartening.
    And hilarious. Don't forget hilarious.

  19. #319
    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    Don’t know about Canada, but Musk definitely can’t be President in the US, even with a dual/triple citizenship.

    And I don’t think he has any interest in being a Prime Minister in Canada. His ventures are all in the US.
    You're correct that he can't. Born in South Africa to a Canadian mother and South African father gives him the original dual citizenship. US came later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3thray View Post
    the ultra wealthy to single-handedly snap up Twitter or WaPo.
    It's going from the wealthy to the wealthy, the only thing changing is that the new wealth doesn't line up with the viewpoints of the old wealth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D3thray View Post
    The number of people outing themselves in this thread and elsewhere on my other feeds essentially saying ‘unregulated free speech is bad because people might lie or say mean things’ is… well really disheartening. Like on the one hand it’s vindication for me but on the other… China’s over there, maybe weibo is more your speed.
    It'd only be disheartening if you had absolutely no knowledge of what free speech actually is in either a legal or philosophical sense.

    Free speech (which doesn't actually apply here given it's a private platform anyway, regardless of how much the clowns claiming 'public square' like to whinge) has always had exceptions in instances where speech would create danger to the public or to protected classes. And in this case, the speech which is being restricted fall under these categories; misinformation which creates public danger regarding things like climate change or vaccines, and... you know... hate speech.

    So yeah; you basically just don't know what the hell you're talking about.

    That said we probably don’t want the ultra wealthy to single-handedly snap up Twitter or WaPo. I still support section 230 reform even if I personally like some of the things Musk says he wants to do with Twitter (open source anyone?). If you were ok with twitter last week, and suddenly aren’t today, you’ve got some soul searching to do. What is materially different now versus last week? There’s still a small cadre of elites controlling the town square. Unilateral control of the space is not a good thing regardless of who is calling the shots.
    While moving away from personal monopolies of things like entertainment and social media would be good, not all elites are created equal.

    In Musk's case, it's because he specifically has a history of reprising against critics of his person or conduct (see: Tesla's toxic work environment, calling the cave diver guy a pedophile, etc.), not understanding the public safety exception to free speech (see: refusing to restrict Russian state propaganda from Starlink), promoting misinformation which is dangerous to public safety (see: him spreading misinformation about COVID), as well as encouraging theft of intellectual property (see: refusing to credit artists for their work). All of which are far more easily facilitated through him controlling Twitter.

    But at the end of the day, this is likely to be a poison pill for him. He financed the acquisition through borrowing which has proceeded to crash Tesla's stock, and Twitter isn't sufficiently profitable for him to be able to make a return on that acquisition. It remains a case of a weird nerd having a midlife crisis because his wife left him for another woman. Rofl.
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