Elon Musk Buys Twitter

[Orange Joe]

I'm saying there needs to be a better way than killing children.
Or to use your tactic; are you in so much favor of taking advantage of 3rd world countries, and exploitation of child and slave labor?

The silence is deafening from 1st world countries. And I'm certain it's because there's not much that can be done that won't result in one big frustrating geopolitical mess.

Well you are making broad statements like EV's are bad, when the truth Ev's are fine. deregulation/unregulated is bad.

[Rasulis]

Well you are making broad statements like EV's are bad, when the truth Ev's are fine. deregulation/unregulated is bad.

I think we need to be specific. Cobalt mining by itself is not bad. It is just like any other mining operations for precious resources. Cobalt mining the way it is done in DRC is bad.

The US has growing cobalt mining and processing operations in Alaska, Idaho, Montana and California. They are high-tech operations. Nothing at all like DRC.

The same with the operations in Canada and Australia.

Keep in mind the US is a late comer into cobalt mining and refining. There are lots of cobalt deposits in North America. North American miners just never actually gone looking for cobalt until recently. The US also did not start refining cobalt until 2014.

[unfilteredJW]

I see you have time to comment on the discussion taking place, but no time to take action against an obviously bad faith poster. Hard to imagine why they get to keep derailing threads all the time.

Nailed it.

[Edge-]

https://www.propublica.org/article/p...liticians-musk

Politicians haven’t stopped deleting some of their most cringeworthy tweets, but Politwoops, our project that has tracked and archived more than half a million deleted tweets from candidates and elected officials since 2012, is no longer able to track them.

Since Elon Musk took over Twitter, the platform has disabled the function we used to track deletions — and the new method that Twitter says should identify them appears to be broken. We have been unable to find anyone who can help us, and with Twitter surprising developers by announcing a move to a paid model for gathering tweet data, it’s no longer clear that Twitter is a stable platform on which to maintain this work. It seems fitting to give Politwoops a sendoff, a farewell to not exactly a friend but an odd part of our national political discourse for a decade.

Much transparency. Big Free Speech. Very wow.

[Breccia]

Much transparency. Big Free Speech. Very wow.

Not sure if this is a bug or a feature. Oh well, screen shots it is.

[Taifuu]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/othe...ls/ar-AA17TJAv

This is supposedly the world's richest man. Not paying bills and effectively giving his few remaining employees time off because they don't have the tools needed for their jobs.

[The Stormbringer]

Just to confirm, you are suggesting we never harvest this stuff because 3rd world counties don't have regulations to prevent exploitation? There is no other solution except just not mining it?

This argument is stupid and you know it. Of course there are other solutions. The 'problem' is just that they require MONEY, significant investment that most countries don't want to spend the coin on. The best way to do it would be to build up the infrastructure of the entire country, including roads, schools, hospitals, etcetera, to the point where they can support modern mining operations in these locations.

[Edge-]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/othe...ls/ar-AA17TJAv

This is supposedly the world's richest man. Not paying bills and effectively giving his few remaining employees time off because they don't have the tools needed for their jobs.

Are there any bills he is paying? At what point do they start getting water and electrical shut off or kicked out of the office spaces they're not paying for and shit?

I thought Elom was good at running companies?

[TACOshake]

A big part of my job is trying to vizualize the consumer or end-user of a product. But I really struggle to come up with "who the fuck would buy a Cyber Truck".

The CYBERTRUCK, everybody:
The Tesla Cybertruck looks like shit. That is the first thing about it. It looks like somebody should be pulling it out of a men’s size-10 loafer in a shoe store in Times Square. It looks like a beard trimmer that plays Phil Collins songs. It looks like it should come free with a Sports Illustrated print subscription in 1987. Maybe it’ll look better if you hit ctrl-alt-delete a few times or close WordPerfect in the background. Maybe it’s just weird to see it outside of its natural environment, upright on the wall of a public restroom, dispensing paper towels.

Were the Cybertruck not so clearly intended to make a visual statement, you could shrug its ridiculous ugliness off. This is a pickup truck, you would say, in that case. A utility vehicle. Its function is not to be cool-looking. Its function is to haul stuff, possibly off-road. The problem there is that if that were true—”We got to move these refrigerators,” the Cybertruck’s ideal buyer might say, “we got to move these color TVs”—the Cybertruck would not look the way it does; there would be no affirmative reason to make it look like that. But still. You could imagine imagining that its appearance didn’t matter.

Of course, that would require the Cybertruck to do truck stuff capably. Here is a video of a Cybertruck struggling to mount a normal curb, with help from wooden ramps:

Well that helps. Now I'm imaging a persona with; lots of disposable income, small penis syndrome, dunning kreuger complex, and really liked the Delorean, because it was the Cocaine Car.


Admitedly I have cocaine on the brain right now. Since I'm a bit hyoed to see Cocaine Bear coming out today.

[Rasulis]

This argument is stupid and you know it. Of course there are other solutions. The 'problem' is just that they require MONEY, significant investment that most countries don't want to spend the coin on. The best way to do it would be to build up the infrastructure of the entire country, including roads, schools, hospitals, etcetera, to the point where they can support modern mining operations in these locations.

DCR is pretty corrupt. The linked article made a point of specifically stating that. Any money put into improving the country will go into lining the leaders' pockets.

If we don't want to be contribute to the problem, then we need to stop buying cobalt from DCR. It is not a rare mineral. It used to be a byproduct of copper mining. Nobody had any use for it back then. So, until recently, mining companies in North American did not look for cobalt deposits.

[Spectral]

This argument is stupid and you know it. Of course there are other solutions. The 'problem' is just that they require MONEY, significant investment that most countries don't want to spend the coin on. The best way to do it would be to build up the infrastructure of the entire country, including roads, schools, hospitals, etcetera, to the point where they can support modern mining operations in these locations.

Exactly. If life in the Congo sucks, it's because the United States hasn't poured enough money into building things for them. If only Americans would do the decent things and throw some cash to the Congolese government, they'll get those schools right up to speed and the whole place will be up to the standards of Denmark in a few years, cycling infrastructure and all.

[Edge-]

Exactly. If life in the Congo sucks, it's because the United States hasn't poured enough money into building things for them. If only Americans would do the decent things and throw some cash to the Congolese government, they'll get those schools right up to speed and the whole place will be up to the standards of Denmark in a few years, cycling infrastructure and all.

I mean, if we want to ignore how long-lasting the damage caused by colonialism and how colonial powers never even attempted to clean up the messes they left, sure. Or how corporations go in and enable corrupt governments because it's also in their financial interest to gladly pay bottom-dollar for resources that can be mined with children and slaves.

That's kinda a bad strawman.

[Spectral]

I mean, if we want to ignore how long-lasting the damage caused by colonialism and how colonial powers never even attempted to clean up the messes they left, sure. Or how corporations go in and enable corrupt governments because it's also in their financial interest to gladly pay bottom-dollar for resources that can be mined with children and slaves.

That's kinda a bad strawman.

I'm all for holding Belgium accountable. Love the beer, love the mussels, but hate the whole hand-choppy business.

[Edge-]

I'm all for holding Belgium accountable. Love the beer, love the mussels, but hate the whole hand-choppy business.

I'm beginning to think you're not being very serious on this topic, so I guess I shouldn't bother too much with a serious response.

[Spectral]

I'm beginning to think you're not being very serious on this topic, so I guess I shouldn't bother too much with a serious response.

No one here is "serious" on the topic of Congolese political strife. To the extent that there's anything serious to say, it's that I would like Americans, just for once, to try to grasp that they are neither the cause nor cure to the problems in a distant land.

[Spectral]

Every time we dump money into these areas it always ends up in some horrendous form of corruption. China does it better by moving a mass of people in to construct and maintain the projects, and then threaten to take over if they default on their payments.

Right, I know, I was being sarcastic. I don't have a solution that I find morally appealing or that the American public would be likely to find compelling.

[fwc577]

Elon laid off another 200 employees yesterday. LMAO.

They go in hardcore for Twitter 2.0 and Musk drops them on a whim. Sadge.

[TACOshake]

Esther Crawford, chief executive of Twitter Payments, is out.

"Proud to be sleeping at my desk" comitment to Elon ... didn't work out like they expected.

Also fired the revue guy, seems like they axed a lot of product managers, always a good move when your company is sputtering around aimlessly and failing to deliver new features anyone cares about.

Bad look for the afrikaner CEO of a company dependent on ad revenue, spending sunday morning on a tear about how white people are the actual victims of racism.
Why go to college, when you can be born wealthy. And do all your own research on 4chan.

[Breccia]

Esther Crawford, chief executive of Twitter Payments, is out.

Why have a payment manager when you can just choose to not make payments?

Man, Musk's going to take a bath on this one. I am having a hard time distinguishing between "being incompetent" and "intentionally borrowing tens of billions to destroy Twitter".

[Edge-]

Elon laid off another 200 employees yesterday. LMAO.

They go in hardcore for Twitter 2.0 and Musk drops them on a whim. Sadge.

Did they turn Slack back on yet? Or is everyone still communicating with each other via Twitter DM's?