1. #3481
    https://thehill.com/policy/technolog...sonal-account/

    Wow, Elom just censoring Republican Mike Lee without warning!

    Nobody is sure why, Elom hasn't reached out to tell him why or ask him to stop posting Nazi stuff because he handles the high-level customer service himself.

    Best media can figure is it's related to a tweet he sent to the JP prime minister for not returning a US serviceman who is currently in prison for killing someone in a car crash that seems absolutely fine and not in violation of any rules.

    Man, it's almost like this content moderation thing might be hard and that sometimes mistakes are made and shit? Wild. Do you need to spend $44B to learn that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Wow, Elom just censoring Republican Mike Lee without warning!
    Barring a rule he violated -- and considering Trump is back on, it would be hypocrisy if it was -- Mike Lee is an election denier and Trump cultist, isn't he?

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    Remember the people gleefully pointing out that despite cutting 70% of its staff, Twitter was still up and running?

    Yeah, so the cracks are starting to show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Remember the people gleefully pointing out that despite cutting 70% of its staff, Twitter was still up and running?
    "Around the world".

    Ouch. Can't blame that on local issues.

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    Thought this might be an exaggeration, but i watched about 20m of the presentation, and it's absolutely not. bugged out, scattered, disorganized, stammering.

    Elon Musk opens up "Investor Day" stuttering & stammering, claims that the "smart people" he knows thinks his ideas are brilliant, revolutionary, and true.



    Bascailly those annoying kids from school.... that didnt do the reading, but bullshitted for 15 min. Wasting everyoine's time.

    People are saying I'm the most brilliant shitposter /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Elon Musk opens up "Investor Day" stuttering & stammering, claims that the "smart people" he knows thinks his ideas are brilliant, revolutionary, and true.
    That's Trump levels of Your Logical Fallacy is Appeal to Authority, possibly with a dash of No True Scotsman. Simply put, it's hard to believe when he says this when he keeps firing people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Thought this might be an exaggeration, but i watched about 20m of the presentation, and it's absolutely not. bugged out, scattered, disorganized, stammering.

    Elon Musk opens up "Investor Day" stuttering & stammering, claims that the "smart people" he knows thinks his ideas are brilliant, revolutionary, and true.



    Bascailly those annoying kids from school.... that didnt do the reading, but bullshitted for 15 min. Wasting everyoine's time.

    People are saying I'm the most brilliant shitposter /s
    So I just listened to the opening and like, not really.

    Is he his usual "modern" self where he's distracted and stammering and seemingly struggling to stay on topic? Yes.

    But he was lamenting that most of the smart people he knows don't believe his claim he makes immediately upon walking out on stage: That there's a path towards a fully sustainable energy earth with abundance that could support far larger populations. And don't worry, he's going to publish a white paper on it.

    Which is technically true in many senses in the longterm. It's just hilarious hearing an uber-capitalist like Elon, who would necessarily need to not exist, try to sell the fuckin idea.

    I get it, IIRC Elon's on the spectrum or whatever and I ain't judging for that. But this is much more recent behavior that speaks more towards the ongoing loosening of his grasp on reality as he struggles to stay grounded.

    Looking for other coverage it doesn't seem like quite that bad of a trainwreck. Maybe just a slightly more bullshity presentation given that they talked a lot of very big ideas and apparently very little in the way of actual specifics. Markets didn't seem thrilled with it, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    Exactly. If life in the Congo sucks, it's because the United States hasn't poured enough money into building things for them. If only Americans would do the decent things and throw some cash to the Congolese government, they'll get those schools right up to speed and the whole place will be up to the standards of Denmark in a few years, cycling infrastructure and all.
    Well handing the ones that keep it the way it is certainly isn't helping but sure better ignore that part and just pretend they can't handle the money as if America corp doesn't know who they are working with.

    America really became a country full of can't-be-done's.
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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Thought this might be an exaggeration, but i watched about 20m of the presentation, and it's absolutely not. bugged out, scattered, disorganized, stammering.
    Would you call it a chaotic, boring, confusing mess?

    Because Elon Musk's Tesla 'Master Plan 3' Presentation Was a Chaotic, Boring, Confusing Mess

    This time, the company seemed to back away from its past strategy of making commitments it doesn’t keep, by offering basically no commitments at all.

    For Plan 3, Musk took to the stage to talk about the feasibility of Earth’s energy transition. The CEO made some big, sweeping, optimistic statements and claims about a 5-part plan to transition our planet to a sustainable energy system (in order: electrifying the grid, EV’s, heat pumps, “green” hydrogen, electric boats and planes)—touching briefly and vaguely on Tesla’s various potential contributions to each aspect of that plan (maybe one day, Tesla will make heat pumps for homes or electrified flying machines!). All told, Musk predicted his version of the energy transition would cost $10 trillion, and use just a fraction of the world’s lithium, nickel, and rare earth metal reserves. He noted Tesla will soon be publishing a detailed whitepaper explaining its calculation methods, models, and assumptions.

    Then, the billionaire passed the mic off to a series of Tesla engineers who spoke in technical terms about things that the company has already done and demonstrated in its previous vehicle models. Various Tesla employees spoke on the company’s design philosophy, streamlined production strategy, driver assistance, AI-tech, charging stations, and supply chain.

    No one offered any update on the possibility of a $25,000 Tesla model, as some hopeful predictions had forecast. There was lots of description of minimized production costs and past changes to the supply chain and assembly line, but nothing about how that will or won’t translate to cost savings for customers. Two Tesla designers, specifically said the company wouldn’t be unveiling its next generation model at the Wednesday event, and offered that it instead would be revealed at an unspecified later date.

    Musk briefly re-appeared to mumble some stuff while a video of the company’s Optimus humanoid robot played on the screen (allegedly, it can walk now—which it couldn’t during the company’s AI day presentation in fall 2022). During this AI-focused interlude, the world’s richest man forecast a future where humanoid robots eventually outnumber people. “Assuming the things I’m saying are true—Well, I think they are true, it’s just a matter of timing,” he prefaced, the ratio of humanoid robots to people will become greater than 1:1 through unspecified home and industrial uses, Musk predicted. “It’s not even clear what an economy means at that point,” the billionaire added.

    Then the lengthy (about 3-hour) presentation got back to the dull parade of Tesla execs who have rarely made past public appearances. For context: One of the ‘innovations’ announced was shifting to open access chargers which is actually just Tesla aligning itself with recent Biden Administration requirements for the company to receive federal subsidy money through the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law. Another was a summary of why self-driving is critical for sustainability, because autonomous cars could serve more than one owner (At this point I involuntarily shouted “Just build an electric bus!” to the nearly empty office).

    Worth noting: even though Musk and his company cronies offered nearly nothing new, even the little they did say might be utter bullshit. The whole presentation started with an extremely comprehensive disclaimer—emphasizing that you should not, in fact, assume the things that Musk says are true.
    And of course, Gizmodo did in fact link the disclaimer.

    (deep breath)

    Certain statements in this presentation, including, but not limited to, statements relating to the future development, ramp, production capacity and output rates, supply chain, demand and market growth, cost, pricing and profitability, deliveries, deployment, availability and other features and improvements and timing of existing and future Tesla products and technologies such as Model 3, Model Y, Model X, Model S, Cybertruck, Tesla Semi, Robotaxi, our next generation vehicle platform, our Autopilot, Full Self-Driving, and other vehicle software and our energy storage and solar products; statements regarding operating margin, operating profits, spending and liquidity; and statements regarding expansions, improvements and/or ramp and related timing at existing or new factories are “forward-looking statements” that are subject to risks and uncertainties. These forward-looking statements are based on management’s current expectations, and are a result of certain risks and uncertainties, actual results may differ materially from those projected. The following important factors, without limitation, could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements: uncertainties in future macroeconomic and regulatory conditions arising from the current global pandemic; the risk of delays in launching and manufacturing our products and features cost-effectively; our ability to grow our sales, delivery, installation, servicing and charging capabilities and effectively manage this growth; consumers’ demand for electric vehicles generally and our vehicles specifically; the ability of suppliers to deliver components according to schedules, prices, quality and volumes acceptable to us, and our ability to manage such components effectively; any issues with lithium-ion cells or other components manufactured at Gigafactory Nevada and Gigafactory Shanghai; our ability to ramp Gigafactory Shanghai, Gigafactory Berlin-Brandenburg, Gigafactory Texas and new factories in accordance with our plans; our ability to procure supply of battery cells, including through our own manufacturing; risks relating to international expansion; any failures by Tesla products to perform as expected or if product recalls occur; the risk of product liability claims; competition in the automotive and energy product markets; our ability to maintain public credibility and confidence in our long-term business prospects; our ability to manage risks relating to our various product financing programs; the status of government and economic incentives for electric vehicles and energy products; our ability to attract, hire and retain key employees and qualified personnel and ramp our installation teams; our ability to maintain the security of our information and production and product systems; our compliance with various regulations and laws applicable to our operations and products, which may evolve from time to time; risks relating to our indebtedness and financing strategies; and adverse foreign exchange movements. More information on potential factors that could affect our financial results is included from time to time in our Securities and Exchange Commission filings and reports, including the risks identified under the section captioned “Risk Factors” in our annual report on Form 10-K filed with the SEC on January 31, 2023. Tesla disclaims any obligation to update information contained in these forward-looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.
    (pant pant pant)

    TL:DR is "everything could be bullshit".

    I get legal disclaimers, but hot damn, that's a labyrinth of "assuming all these assumptions" there.

  10. #3490
    https://twitter.com/ZoeSchiffer/stat...19936805482496

    Tiny scoop: We learned today that Twitter’s revenue is down 40 percent year over year (& Musk’s first giant interest payment on the company is due at the end of the month):

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    (Musk sucks)
    So...who here wants to start a pool, will/won't Musk pay his interest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    So...who here wants to start a pool, will/won't Musk pay his interest?
    I wonder if his creditors will be as forgiving as his landlords have been as of late.

    Unless he's started making payments on Twitter's office space again.

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    Pretty crazy that people that are destitute will get hounded on a daily basis by debt collectors but this guy that is worth billions gets a free pass.

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    Pretty crazy that people that are destitute will get hounded on a daily basis by debt collectors but this guy that is worth billions gets a free pass.
    The system is designed this way on purpose.

  15. #3495
    In case anyone is wondering how things are going -

    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1632810081497513993

    Yeah, Twitter shit itself for a bit because of an API change apparently. Which means that the platform is going to need a total rewrite!

    Note: This isn't the first time he's proposed this: https://mobile.twitter.com/pwnsdx/st...42608603463680

    Last time he got called out for having no clue what the fuck he was talking about so lashed out at his own employees. The man is a fuckin doofus, and I giggled watching Tesla stock which continues its gentle decline following their last Investor Day where Musk largely just kinda rambled on about things without any plans and his other executives tried to say there they do have some idea of how they're going to accomplish all these grand ideas, they promise.

  16. #3496


    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/...216103937?s=20

    WTF is wrong with this dude? The Divorce Dad vibes are too strong with this person.

    Idk what this even means? Liberal Karen? Blondes? Just women in general?
    "Buh dah DEMS"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Remember the people gleefully pointing out that despite cutting 70% of its staff, Twitter was still up and running?

    Yeah, so the cracks are starting to show.
    In his own twitter post.

    A small API change had massive ramifications. The code stack is extremely brittle for no good reason.

    Will ultimately need a complete rewrite.


    Not enough coders left to do the rewrite. The ones with institutional knowledge left already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    In his own twitter post.

    A small API change had massive ramifications. The code stack is extremely brittle for no good reason.

    Will ultimately need a complete rewrite.


    Not enough coders left to do the rewrite. The ones with institutional knowledge left already.
    Plus, per me lurking around in software engineering circles occasionally, the general consensus seeming to be that full rewrites rarely, if ever, bring even a fraction of the believed benefits and is basically never worth it. I'm going by the people that actually do this for a living.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MurderedByW...oyee_and_then/

    Anyways, if you want to know what Elom is up to now it's publicly shit talking former employees, revealing private medical data about them because he looked up their HR files, and generally being a truly terrible human being as he attacks a disabled former employee for being disabled, despite them still being able to do their job without issue after minor accommodations.

    Surely this kind of behavior will continue to attract the best of the best of the best, sir. With honors. And small API changes to the brittle stack won't take the services down for hours at a time.

    - - - Updated - - -

    https://www.reuters.com/business/us-...sj-2023-03-07/

    And apparently the FTC is interested in his internal communications regarding business decisions and layoffs. I look forward to Elom throwing another temper tantrum about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    In his own twitter post.

    A small API change had massive ramifications. The code stack is extremely brittle for no good reason.

    Will ultimately need a complete rewrite.


    Not enough coders left to do the rewrite. The ones with institutional knowledge left already.
    This reads like someone who wants to pretend he knows a lot about codin-

    Oh right. It is.

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