Elon Musk Buys Twitter

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https://forward.com/opinion/549819/e...te-in-america/

Fun op-ed on Forward, a Jewish-focused news outlet.

Elon Musk is the most dangerous antisemite in America

It's pretty extensively cited with examples throughout including this recent example of Elom again responding positively to someone making a "Comparison" between Biden and Mel Gibson, pretty explicitly repeating the whole "torturing kids for adrenochrome" thing for Biden and then explicitly implying that Gibson's antisemitism and hatred of Jews is why he's so strong.

Reminder: Elom Musk, son to South African emerald mine owner who benefitted from apartheid Africa, is a deeply bigoted human being. Racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, antisemetic.

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Nah. People can slip in and out of ad hominem fluidly. Attack their argument, then attack the person making it, then back to attacking the argument.

"Ad hominem" is not a synonym for "insult". It's only an ad hominem argument if the content of the insult is a premise that supports the claim being made. Insults added on top of a legitimate argument may be rude, but they do not lessen the argument itself. "Bob is a Nazi because he's got a swastika tattoo on his neck and Heils Hitler three times a day, he's such a fucking dingbat shithead" is in no way "ad hominem".

For what it's worth, I'm referring to a post that questioned someone's support for their own daughter for a Pride month stance.If you really have to reach for justification to demean the parenting of someone's kids in your argument, maybe it's time to detach from whatever issue caused you to do that.

That's not ad hominem. That's the conclusion.
1> WB doesn't support Pride month.
2> People who don't support Pride are homophobic to at least some extent.
3> WB has a gay daughter.

Ergo, WB doesn't fully support her daughter for who she is. I'm taking all this presuming the bit about the gay daughter is correct, mind you; I can't be arsed to check post history to confirm. But the first and second statements are just facts, and the conclusion comes from those three premises logically.

Maybe that means WB should reconsider their positions now that they've been exposed as being, at best, irrational, rather than taking it as an insult and doubling down on hate.

Maternal care of a daughter is a personal attack and an excellent example of ad hominem in the style of "I don't like your stance on Pride month, so I'm going to attack the raising of your daughter."

You can stuff the weird patronizing misogyny of suggesting a mother's care for their kids is any more valuable or strong than a father's, thanks.

And again; it wasn't "not liking her stance", it was "her stance denies the validity of what Pride stands for, which is relevant to her daughter's identity as a person".

[Lenonis]

someone cannot be supportive of the message of Pride month while thinking it would be better off as a day or weekend or whatever.

Correct. Someone isn't supportive of the message of pride month if they think it should be a day instead.

Glad we are on the same page.

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If you really have to reach for justification to demean the parenting of someone's kids in your argument, maybe it's time to detach from whatever issue caused you to do that.

Although I'd agree that was uncalled for - it isn't the stretch you are wanting to claim that someone who opposes Pride would not treat a LGBT child well. It happens incredibly often.

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My 13 year old daughter, for awhile, said she was gay, went back to being straight, said she was bi, and then decided she was straight again.

Good lord your phrasing of this just shows how problematic your attitudes towards LGBT people are.

[Karreck]

My 13 year old daughter, for awhile, said she was gay, went back to being straight, said she was bi, and then decided she was straight again.

Based on how hostile you have shown yourself to be regarding LGBTQ+ issues, I can guarantee that your kid is saying she is straight in order to keep your hate off her.

[Benggaul]

Or, you know, someone is just making shit up.

[Strange One]

Anti-sjw's for a long time now, have become worse the sjw's ever were.

Conservatives have mastered the culture wars they always complained about.

But that's what conservatives do. When the left do something they've always done, they give it a new name.

When the dixie chicks said something they didn't like and burnt they're albums and denied them space, it was freedom of speech, not cancel culture. When the left does the same it becomes cancel culture.

Just, fuck conservatives.

[postman1782]

Just to get back on track, sounds like Elon Musk wants to get rid of the Block Feature on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1666594707621773312

The reason he wants to get rid of this is because people are blocking Andy Ngo, the dumbass moron that is literally a mouthpiece for fascists like the Patriot Prayer, Patriot Front and the Proud Bitches.

He is trying to do it in response to this: https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...59755052101634

Oh, and the fact that Alejandra is exposing that Andy Ngo hangs out with LITERAL FUCKING PEDOPHIILES.
https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/...812101/photo/1
This screenshot specifically shows why Elon Musk banned Chad Loder, because Loder called out Musk's pedophile friends since Musk is on Epstein's list.

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Just to get back on track, sounds like Elon Musk wants to get rid of the Block Feature on Twitter.

rofl, so literal forced speech for the folks elom likes

[D Luniz]

Anti-sjw's for a long time now, have become worse the sjw's ever were.

Conservatives have mastered the culture wars they always complained about.

But that's what conservatives do. When the left do something they've always done, they give it a new name.

When the dixie chicks said something they didn't like and burnt they're albums and denied them space, it was freedom of speech, not cancel culture. When the left does the same it becomes cancel culture.

Just, fuck conservatives.

funny part, the dixie chicks were technically critizing the government, the HEART of what Freedom of Speech is for

[postman1782]

rofl, so literal forced speech for the folks elom likes

Absolutely, its the fascist way. He said he wanted free speech, except he hasn't done anything to actually promote that since taking over. He has banned specific people like Chad Loder and the kid that was tracking his plane with public information, and I wouldn't doubt countless others.

Basically, he is making it a safe haven for Nazis.

[Edge-]

Absolutely, its the fascist way. He said he wanted free speech, except he hasn't done anything to actually promote that since taking over. He has banned specific people like Chad Loder and the kid that was tracking his plane with public information, and I wouldn't doubt countless others.

Basically, he is making it a safe haven for Nazis.

Didn't he restrict tweets in Turkey because that was the only way to keep it operational under new censorship rules?

I think someone even pointed out to him that that's not a very Freeze Peach Absolute Vodka move on his part and he was crying that like, he has to run a platform so he has to compromise his Absolute Freeze Peach Vodka sometimes?

[Strange One]

funny part, the dixie chicks were technically critizing the government, the HEART of what Freedom of Speech is for

It's parody at this point, conservatives don't give a fuck about freedom of speech. They want freedom from criticism.

Look at @tehdang, he/she blocks anyone he doesn't like. Literally censoring them, because he/she doesn't want to see opinions he/she doesn't like but when a private company, much like he/she is a private citizen does the same, it's censorship.

Being a conservative means being a hypocrite.

[postman1782]

Didn't he restrict tweets in Turkey because that was the only way to keep it operational under new censorship rules?

I think someone even pointed out to him that that's not a very Freeze Peach Absolute Vodka move on his part and he was crying that like, he has to run a platform so he has to compromise his Absolute Freeze Peach Vodka sometimes?

He's about to be fined into oblivion in the EU as well simply because he fired his Disinformation fighting team. If he isn't fined in the EU, he is about to be shut down there permanently because he won't follow the DSA, the Digital Services act, which goes into effect in August.
https://www.businesstoday.in/technol...210-2023-05-29

If he does that, he loses literally 10s of millions of users, and he will lose even more of his dwindling value of Twitter.

[tehdang]

Look at @tehdang, he/she blocks anyone he doesn't like. Literally censoring them, because he doesn't want to see opinions he doesn't like but when a private company, much like he/she is a private citizen does the same, it's censorship.

An ignore list "literally censor[s] them?" I'm afraid you're confusing the bans of the mods with what private users may do. Everyone can read posts that some user or another ignores, and people that ignore me do not censor my speech from others that view it. In fact, I recommend to others to ignore my posts if you cannot engage with them in good faith, or seek to make the discussion about posters as personalities. I won't take it as personal dislike in any case.

I use the mentioned forum feature to screen out some of the inveterate bad faith posters, ad hominem posters, and trolls, but I can't say it has anything to do with liking anyone. You're not the sum total of how you act on anonymous internet forums. The incivility and personal attacks, or accusations, or trolling insincerity just gets in the way of having a sincere debate or productive discussion. Not really any knock on anyone, since there is a certain freedom in how you engage on the internet, within the rules of whoever's hosting. Some people of my political persuasion might actually prefer and like engaging in that way on equal terms, just not me. I'm sure of some very nice people around here that I'd genuinely enjoy spending time with, but that the internet makes them imagine fellow posters as Russian trolls just repeating the talking points on a sheet and act like that's the case.

[unfilteredJW]

An ignore list "literally censor[s] them?" I'm afraid you're confusing the bans of the mods with what private users may do. Everyone can read posts that some user or another ignores, and people that ignore me do not censor my speech from others that view it. In fact, I recommend to others to ignore my posts if you cannot engage with them in good faith, or seek to make the discussion about posters as personalities. I won't take it as personal dislike in any case.

I use the mentioned forum feature to screen out some of the inveterate bad faith posters, ad hominem posters, and trolls, but I can't say it has anything to do with liking anyone. You're not the sum total of how you act on anonymous internet forums. The incivility and personal attacks, or accusations, or trolling insincerity just gets in the way of having a sincere debate or productive discussion. Not really any knock on anyone, since there is a certain freedom in how you engage on the internet, within the rules of whoever's hosting. I'm sure of some very nice people around here that I'd genuinely enjoy spending time with, but that the internet makes them imagine fellow posters as Russian trolls just repeating the talking points on a sheet and act like that's the case.

Pretty sure this bro has Endus on ignore so this is all a lie.

Snowflake just got tired of being dunked on.

[Strange One]

An ignore list "literally censor[s] them?" I'm afraid you're confusing the bans of the mods with what private users may do. Everyone can read posts that some user or another ignores, and people that ignore me do not censor my speech from others that view it. In fact, I recommend to others to ignore my posts if you cannot engage with them in good faith, or seek to make the discussion about posters as personalities. I won't take it as personal dislike in any case.

I use the mentioned forum feature to screen out some of the inveterate bad faith posters, ad hominem posters, and trolls, but I can't say it has anything to do with liking anyone. You're not the sum total of how you act on anonymous internet forums. The incivility and personal attacks, or accusations, or trolling insincerity just gets in the way of having a sincere debate or productive discussion. Not really any knock on anyone, since there is a certain freedom in how you engage on the internet, within the rules of whoever's hosting. Some people of my political persuasion might actually prefer and like engaging in that way on equal terms, just not me. I'm sure of some very nice people around here that I'd genuinely enjoy spending time with, but that the internet makes them imagine fellow posters as Russian trolls just repeating the talking points on a sheet and act like that's the case.

Thank you for responding to this post.

However, this user doesn't respond to sexual abuse supporters.

Have a nice day.

[ringpriest]

Just to get back on track, sounds like Elon Musk wants to get rid of the Block Feature on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1666594707621773312

The reason he wants to get rid of this is because people are blocking Andy Ngo, the dumbass moron that is literally a mouthpiece for fascists like the Patriot Prayer, Patriot Front and the Proud Bitches.

He is trying to do it in response to this: https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...59755052101634

Oh, and the fact that Alejandra is exposing that Andy Ngo hangs out with LITERAL FUCKING PEDOPHIILES.
https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/...812101/photo/1
This screenshot specifically shows why Elon Musk banned Chad Loder, because Loder called out Musk's pedophile friends since Musk is on Epstein's list.

As has been said for a while, the right has no problem with censorship, they just demand that they (and only they) are entitled to an audience.

[Strange One]

As has been said for a while, the right has no problem with censorship, they just demand that they (and only they) are entitled to an audience.

With no criticism, coz telling them they're wrong infringes on their speech.

[postman1782]

Uh, no.

You guys are acting really weird with these replies regarding my daughter.

No one is saying anything about your daughter, you are.

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Pretty sure this bro has Endus on ignore so this is all a lie.

Snowflake just got tired of being dunked on.

He definitely never responds to a post I make, so pretty sure he does. That's fine, though; I don't post to talk to him, I post so no one else falls for bullshit arguments. It's kind of like a Youtuber making a debunk video about flat-earthers or whatever; it's not about a conversation with the subject, it's about debunking the poisonous rhetoric before some poor fool gets caught up in it.