Elon Musk Buys Twitter

[s_bushido]

Honestly... I haven't been keeping up with this drama about that poster (other than the nonsense they posted about Musk's "the left is the one moving to extremes!" bullshit), but chuds are the last people I trust to talk about "attacking children."

[tehdang]

Another interesting trick is to constantly muddy the conversation when your side is being "attacked" and then feign ignorance and place blame on those who call you out on it as though they were the ones who sidetracked the conversation first.

It looked pretty clear that somebody went after a poster's kids and many of the rest just played along. I'll include you, since you're off on some tangent where attacking kids don't matter when there's a background meta-commentary on who's the victim.

Yeah don't expect that tactic to change. Asking people to speak openly and honestly then get attacked. Make rules then don't abide by them and then move the goal post. Rules for the but not for me.

Agree or disagree, I have an infinite amount of respect for people to articulate their own arguments and don't lean into their own verified experiences, than parroting someone else's or something else and then go on to misinterpret the same information. I don't always agree with Winter Blossom but there was no cause for attacking her daughter or her personally.

I wasn't expecting so much bandwagoning. Yes, I know this is an internet and some fools obsessed with PRIDE will call any criticism reason enough for the speaker to deserve to be called a bad parent of kids or something. It kind of proves her point; Pride has morphed into something you're forced to support in order to be a good person. The reaction like how dare you criticize it, this means you don't really support LGBT is really too close to having criticized a religious symbol. My own respect will be for people that still support it and think it's necessary, but can understand and sympathize with those that think it's overplayed and maybe a week or a day would be better.

What can you even call attack-someone-and-mock-them-for-behaving-like-they-were-attacked? Oh, you have a culture war opinion about false victimhood, so you have to shoehorn everything into that script? Come off it now.

Her posting history is right there, just like trump’s sexual assault conviction, as much as you wish both weren’t there, take your time piecing it together .

I have it on good authority (you) that you refuse to engage until I answer for all the calumnies people assert me to be guilty of. So please be consistent here or I might think you're abandoning that rhetorical stance. The next might be that I'm guilty of supporting child trafficking or South African apartheid or the duke and duchess of Sussex. It's also been hundreds of posts since I last denounced NYC fatbergs.

[Breccia]

I feel we're getting a little too sidetracked on tehdang and his support of sexual assault, as demonstrated by his silence on the matter, and we missed something.

Musk is giving five million dollars to verified accounts for ads in their replies.

Twitter will soon begin paying verified content creators for ads in their replies, with the first payment block of around $5 million, company owner Elon Musk said on Friday.

"Note, the creator must be verified and only ads served to verified users count," Musk, the billionaire who bought Twitter last October, said in a tweet.

Now, a quick note, he said "paid" but what he meant was "partial refund". A quick internet search suggested there were 250,000 verified accounts a year ago. That number may have changed, I admit.

Five million dollars spread out 250,000 ways is $20 per person. In other words, two and a half months of sub fees.

The $8/month started Nov 2022. Well more than two and a half months ago. And we have no idea when the next block hits, or even if he's lying. Musk is as demonstrably positively inclined towards Twitter being successful as tehdang is positively inclined towards sexual battery, so giving away $5 million every month (making a blue check potentially a profit, not a payment) seems highly unlikely. After all, $5 million is what you pay when you're found liable of sexual battery, it's not just money you toss out like Mardi Gras beads.

And of course, this is replies. I don't know how many of these accounts often reply. To grab a name at random, Wendy's probably replies a lot, the NYTimes less so.

Also like I said, Musk could just change his mind and not do it. It's not a sure thing, like a finding in court against Trump for sexual assault.

I dunno, if Musk was really that convinced this was a good idea, maybe he'd (a) verify the accounts, which we know he hasn't been doing, unlike Trump who we know committed sexual assault and tehdang being supportive of that, and/or (b) he'd instead of the $8/month just flat-out trade blue check for ads in replies.

We'll see if it goes anywhere, but like Trump's upcoming attempts to reverse the finding against him for sexual assault, I don't see this possible payment offer changing much.

[Dontrike]

I have it on good authority (you) that you refuse to engage until I answer for all the calumnies people assert me to be guilty of. So please be consistent here or I might think you're abandoning that rhetorical stance.

Pretty sure they've been consistent in you answering that, since you haven't.

[ringpriest]

Even they can see the writing on the wall. Worthless MAGAt bigots aren't where the money is anymore. At this point, pretending otherwise would be tantamount to believing that "Whites/Colored Only" signs will be making a return to public spaces...

Given how spectacularly the value of Twitter has cratered since Elon bought it, even someone as colossally stupid and incompetent as he is will be able to figure that out eventually.

I still find myself wondering if Musk isn't deliberately trying to kill Twitter deader than moon rocks for some weird SF-nerd reasoning.

I mean, I get that he's running it into the ground, but he's on course to run it into the ground so thoroughly that it will be worth far less than zero, so that when it dies it will be dead and gone, without even the lingering zombie existence something like Yahoo or MySpace has.

If Musk was trying to kill Twitter as thoroughly and permanently as possible, what could he do differently?

[s_bushido]

I still find myself wondering if Musk isn't deliberately trying to kill Twitter deader than moon rocks for some weird SF-nerd reasoning.

I mean, I get that he's running it into the ground, but he's on course to run it into the ground so thoroughly that it will be worth far less than zero, so that when it dies it will be dead and gone, without even the lingering zombie existence something like Yahoo or MySpace has.

If Musk was trying to kill Twitter as thoroughly and permanently as possible, what could he do differently?

I think that's just giving him too much credit. People tried to spin that "4D-chess" narrative with Trump...and it turned out he was just a malicious incompetent shithead. Something apparently everyone who knew anything about his business-dealings prior to entering into politics could have confirmed. Sound familiar?

[diller]

I prefer this one, personally...

Damn, I might have been naive but you seemed like a mostly reasonable person for a long time, I guess it is mask off time.

[Dontrike]

I still feel this way 100%. And I still feel like Pride Month is fake corporate BS.

And I'm sure you have totally sane reasons as to why you believe that.

Look, it's a fact corporations use it for money, but to think that it was created for them is pretty dumb.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Damn, I might have been naive but you seemed like a mostly reasonable person for a long time, I guess it is mask off time.

Apparently all it took was a Matt Walsh film. Who'd have guessed?

The funny part is that Matt Walsh unironically wants The Handmaid's Tale to be our reality. That's not even joking. He wants women as property, child brides, etc. and yet TERFs are eating up his shitty movie. What happened to being a feminist? Is selling yourself out for some trans hate more important than your rights and freedoms as a woman?

[s_bushido]

TERFs are eating up his shitty movie. What happened to being a feminist? Is selling yourself out for some trans hate more important than your rights and freedoms as a woman?

Seems like most of the time, TERFs aren't actually feminists... Just women who are transphobes, trying to use their own identity as a shield against criticism.

[Muzjhath]

I still feel this way 100%. And I still feel like Pride Month is fake corporate BS.

Considering that there are a lot of LGBTQ+ people who hate Corporate Pride bullshit?
You are not alone in disliking that part of Pride Month.

However, if you equate pride to that? You need to read up on Pride History and Stonewall.
Corporations doing stuff for pridemonth (which they've done for a decade at least now) is market people realising "shit we've got an underserved market segment!" because of Pride Month.
The fact it's only during that month is on them for being idiots.

Pride Month != Corporate sales department BS jargon.

[LilSaihah]

Two: Block not only ensures you won't see another person's tweets, but they can't see yours. He just wants to make a "stronger mute" i.e. you can still mute a person, but you can't block them from seeing YOUR tweets.

What's wrong with that? If you don't want someone to see what you're posting on a public platform you probably shouldn't post it on a public platform.

[Dontrike]

What's wrong with that? If you don't want someone to see what you're posting on a public platform you probably shouldn't post it on a public platform.

Or it's mostly about specific people not seeing it, not the public in general. What was wrong with how it was before Musk got even more whiny?

[LilSaihah]

Or it's mostly about specific people not seeing it, not the public in general. What was wrong with how it was before Musk got even more whiny?

I want to be able to see peoples' stupid opinions without having to log out of Twitter. It is a quality of life fix.

[Dontrike]

I want to be able to see peoples' stupid opinions without having to log out of Twitter. It is a quality of life fix.

So you want piss someone off and still be able to see their posts after they don't want anything to do with you because.............? That honestly sounds like a you problem more than anything else.

[Elder Millennial]

Seems like most of the time, TERFs aren't actually feminists... Just women who are transphobes, trying to use their own identity as a shield against criticism.

I'm just going to remind you that today's "intersectional feminists" are yesterday's Daughters of Confederacy.

[NED funded]

Honestly... I haven't been keeping up with this drama about that poster (other than the nonsense they posted about Musk's "the left is the one moving to extremes!" bullshit), but chuds are the last people I trust to talk about "attacking children."

I thought the left moving to the extreme was literally the point of being a leftist?

Like you push boundaries and transgress. That conservative are mad about trans stuff or whatever social cause is in vogue is the point? Would you stop being supportive of gay marriage in countries where its legal to kill them?

Musk is kinda dumb for that meme about leftists being extremists because that is the point of being a leftist. Pushing for things that are radical and extreme because you believe its right.

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What's wrong with that? If you don't want someone to see what you're posting on a public platform you probably shouldn't post it on a public platform.

Blocking does a little bit more than just preventing people from seeing your posts. It stops them from interacting with you in general. Its a good antiharassment tool

Depends on what you want for social media.

[Rozz]

To help those trying to stay on track, here's an official reminder for the rest: Drop the derail and stay on topic.

[Endus]

I thought the left moving to the extreme was literally the point of being a leftist?

No, that's conservative anti-left propaganda bullshit. What pit on iniquity did you get that lunatic idea from?

Like you push boundaries and transgress. That conservative are mad about trans stuff or whatever social cause is in vogue is the point? Would you stop being supportive of gay marriage in countries where its legal to kill them?

The point is not to "push boundaries". The point is that some boundaries are unjust and infringe on people's basic humanity, and must thus be torn down. The point is not to "trangress", or "make conservatives mad"; left-wing people generally could not give less of a single shit what conservatives want. The point is to end injustices. The conservatives are the ones defending those injustices, so they get mad when they can't keep inflicting unjust harm on innocents. That's not the goal, it's just an inevitable secondary effect, that those focused on enforcing artificial social injustices will get upset when those injustices are attacked and dismantled.

Musk is kinda dumb for that meme about leftists being extremists because that is the point of being a leftist. Pushing for things that are radical and extreme because you believe its right.

Those things aren't "radical" nor "extreme". That's just bullshit conservative propaganda trying to argue that minority group's existence is somehow a threat to social order. That trans people existing and living freely and openly is a thing that needs to be stopped.

When the two sides are "trans people are people and should be treated as fairly as anyone" and "trans people are abominations who need to be eliminated from society because my religious cult demands satisfaction and blood", if you think the former is the "extreme" or "radical" one, you've got more than a few screws loose.

[unfilteredJW]

To help those trying to stay on track, here's an official reminder for the rest: Drop the derail and stay on topic.

This is wrong.

What you are actually saying is being a trans phone and a homophobe is fine, but pointing that out is intractable. Mods continuing to protect the absolute most vile posters on this forum.

I’ll see you guys in a couple of weeks.