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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    Seems like most of the time, TERFs aren't actually feminists... Just women who are transphobes, trying to use their own identity as a shield against criticism.
    I'm just going to remind you that today's "intersectional feminists" are yesterday's Daughters of Confederacy.


  2. #4062
    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post

    Honestly... I haven't been keeping up with this drama about that poster (other than the nonsense they posted about Musk's "the left is the one moving to extremes!" bullshit), but chuds are the last people I trust to talk about "attacking children."
    I thought the left moving to the extreme was literally the point of being a leftist?

    Like you push boundaries and transgress. That conservative are mad about trans stuff or whatever social cause is in vogue is the point? Would you stop being supportive of gay marriage in countries where its legal to kill them?

    Musk is kinda dumb for that meme about leftists being extremists because that is the point of being a leftist. Pushing for things that are radical and extreme because you believe its right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilSaihah View Post
    What's wrong with that? If you don't want someone to see what you're posting on a public platform you probably shouldn't post it on a public platform.
    Blocking does a little bit more than just preventing people from seeing your posts. It stops them from interacting with you in general. Its a good antiharassment tool

    Depends on what you want for social media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    I thought the left moving to the extreme was literally the point of being a leftist?
    No, that's conservative anti-left propaganda bullshit. What pit on iniquity did you get that lunatic idea from?

    Like you push boundaries and transgress. That conservative are mad about trans stuff or whatever social cause is in vogue is the point? Would you stop being supportive of gay marriage in countries where its legal to kill them?
    The point is not to "push boundaries". The point is that some boundaries are unjust and infringe on people's basic humanity, and must thus be torn down. The point is not to "trangress", or "make conservatives mad"; left-wing people generally could not give less of a single shit what conservatives want. The point is to end injustices. The conservatives are the ones defending those injustices, so they get mad when they can't keep inflicting unjust harm on innocents. That's not the goal, it's just an inevitable secondary effect, that those focused on enforcing artificial social injustices will get upset when those injustices are attacked and dismantled.

    Musk is kinda dumb for that meme about leftists being extremists because that is the point of being a leftist. Pushing for things that are radical and extreme because you believe its right.
    Those things aren't "radical" nor "extreme". That's just bullshit conservative propaganda trying to argue that minority group's existence is somehow a threat to social order. That trans people existing and living freely and openly is a thing that needs to be stopped.

    When the two sides are "trans people are people and should be treated as fairly as anyone" and "trans people are abominations who need to be eliminated from society because my religious cult demands satisfaction and blood", if you think the former is the "extreme" or "radical" one, you've got more than a few screws loose.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rozz View Post
    To help those trying to stay on track, here's an official reminder for the rest: Drop the derail and stay on topic.
    This is wrong.

    What you are actually saying is being a trans phone and a homophobe is fine, but pointing that out is intractable. Mods continuing to protect the absolute most vile posters on this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unfilteredJW View Post
    This is wrong.

    What you are actually saying is being a trans phone and a homophobe is fine, but pointing that out is intractable. Mods continuing to protect the absolute most vile posters on this forum.

    I’ll see you guys in a couple of weeks.
    It's sad some people cant see it for what it is.

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    The gays are grooming children
    The Trans are making my children think gender is a fluid concept.

    Mom's for liberty have been around forever. They now want to hang out with the cool kids. But get mad when others recognize their bigotries, and get called out.
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    And now the twitter-problems has hit Goldman Sach's as well with a 612% increase in non-payment on commercial real estate, in part due to twitter's delinquency, https://www.ft.com/content/6bf11c8e-...9-157db427602a

    Some can see it as a serious problem, and other troll about it: "Commercial real estate is melting down fast. Home values next." https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1663238551406772245

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    So you want piss someone off and still be able to see their posts after they don't want anything to do with you because.............? That honestly sounds like a you problem more than anything else.
    Honestly if someone's so brittle about me reading their Twitter posts (not even reacting! just reading!) that they have a negative emotional reaction, it really begs the question of why they have internet access in the first place. They're probably mentally unstable and should seriously reconsider engaging in the behaviour.

    Imagine having your ego so threatened by me of all people. I'm a dumbass.

    Marginally more seriously; one of the biggest issues with social media as it stands is this echo chamber mechanic. If someone throws a few stones through the dome, all the better. Letting in some fresh air and sunlight wouldn't be the worst thing for the average chronically online person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilSaihah View Post
    Honestly if someone's so brittle about me reading their Twitter posts (not even reacting! just reading!) that they have a negative emotional reaction, it really begs the question of why they have internet access in the first place. They're probably mentally unstable and should seriously reconsider engaging in the behaviour.

    Imagine having your ego so threatened by me of all people. I'm a dumbass.

    Marginally more seriously; one of the biggest issues with social media as it stands is this echo chamber mechanic. If someone throws a few stones through the dome, all the better. Letting in some fresh air and sunlight wouldn't be the worst thing for the average chronically online person.
    You're ignoring most people blocking someone isn't cause they are saying something that threatens some "status quo" idea, it's cause they are verbally attacking someone often because that person is threatening some status quo. And then they keep watching their posts to make alts to keep attacking after being blocked. So if that person has to spend extra time to even see a post, I'm not feeling anything for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilSaihah View Post
    Honestly if someone's so brittle about me reading their Twitter posts (not even reacting! just reading!) that they have a negative emotional reaction, it really begs the question of why they have internet access in the first place. They're probably mentally unstable and should seriously reconsider engaging in the behaviour.
    Well that's a stable way of looking at things.

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  11. #4071
    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    I prefer this one, personally...

    Amazing graph that perfectly conveys the reality of things in relation to contemporary trends in culture, society and beyond. But you know how it is; if you sail far enough to the West, you'll eventually make landfall in the East.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnagarde View Post
    Amazing graph that perfectly conveys the reality of things in relation to contemporary trends in culture, society and beyond. But you know how it is; if you sail far enough to the West, you'll eventually make landfall in the East.
    We have Nazi flags being flown outside Disney World. And there are people in this thread who genuinely believes that it's the left who's moving the bar. LOL.

    https://twitter.com/AnnaForFlorida/s...83474276990976

    The right keeps pushing the bar further right, and "enlightened centrists" in an effort to pretend they're as neutral as possible keep moving right themselves in a silly self inflicted game to try and stay as "politically neutral" as possible. i.e. in the direct center of the two parties. When asked what the "center" of "We just want to exist" and "LGBTQ should be eradicated from public life" is the enlightened centrist will just sputter a bit and then tell the two parties they should talk and compromise.




    All of Twitter is in an uproar about how LGBTQ pride is "being shoved down their throats" and yet pride month advertising has all been targeted to LGBTQ communities. If you don't know what that means, a targeted breakdown: Advertising agencies don't just randomly throw out ads everywhere. Advertising is specifically targeted at people given their interests, browsing habits, etc.

    The only reason pride month is "being shoved down people's throats" is because the entire right wing social media sphere is the ones shoving it in people's faces. Nobody, and I mean nobody who is crying about pride being shoved in their faces comes across these ads naturally. The only way you're seeing these ads is in articles and tweets where you're being told you should be outraged by it.

    Elon himself is amplifying these outrage tweets because we know he has an extremely anti trans stance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    We have Nazi flags being flown outside Disney World. And there are people in this thread who genuinely believes that it's the left who's moving the bar. LOL.
    There's no left in the US and the people flying the nazi flag are obviously a problem, but it is not one that is solved by making cultural and political life for centrists nonexistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnagarde View Post
    There's no left in the US and the people flying the nazi flag are obviously a problem, but it is not one that is solved by making cultural and political life for centrists nonexistent.
    Okay but what is a centrist? at this point it seems that anyone who is right wing but leans left on one issue claims to be "centrist". I don't think there is such a thing if it was it would be too powerful of a political force not to be its own prominent party. There were centrist parties in the past they all died out, our issues are far too polarizing for there to actually be a center that doesn't lean more towards one side or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnagarde View Post
    it is not one that is solved by making cultural and political life for centrists nonexistent.
    You can blame the party that elevated an adultering thief con man to godhood status, put children in dog cages until they died, crack down on businesses that say that being homosexual is okay, defend Russia and their ethnic cleansing of Ukraine, conjure lies about election fraud when the party with the fewer votes loses, and staged an insurrection in which people died to keep dictatorial control.

    If you want to be upset that there's no center, you can take it up with the party that literally defended torch-carrying Nazis first. If you're wondering where centrists went, it's not halfway between "normal" and "Nazi".

    And, just so we're clear, I'm a little concerned you use the nearly handwaving term "obviously a problem" when you've lived through what you say you have. Forgetting your wallet when you go out to breakfast is obviously a problem. Nazis fucking murder people for being the wrong color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnagarde View Post
    There's no left in the US and the people flying the nazi flag are obviously a problem, but it is not one that is solved by making cultural and political life for centrists nonexistent.
    Fuck centrists, you're either against fascism or you're enabling them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    We have Nazi flags being flown outside Disney World. And there are people in this thread who genuinely believes that it's the left who's moving the bar. LOL.
    To paraphrase one tweet.

    At the White House the Pride Flag is being flown and at Disney they Swastika. Which one are conservatives more upset about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    You can blame the party that elevated an adultering thief con man to godhood status, put children in dog cages until they died, crack down on businesses that say that being homosexual is okay, defend Russia and their ethnic cleansing of Ukraine, conjure lies about election fraud when the party with the fewer votes loses, and staged an insurrection in which people died to keep dictatorial control.

    If you want to be upset that there's no center, you can take it up with the party that literally defended torch-carrying Nazis first. If you're wondering where centrists went, it's not halfway between "normal" and "Nazi".

    And, just so we're clear, I'm a little concerned you use the nearly handwaving term "obviously a problem" when you've lived through what you say you have. Forgetting your wallet when you go out to breakfast is obviously a problem. Nazis fucking murder people for being the wrong color.
    The problem isn't just who elevated whom, but that there's not really anyone willing to see past that and where cultural politics seem to be heading and pull the handbrake.

    I think that being upset is too strong a word at this point; I feel rather resigned about it because it is an impossible path.

    I'm handwaving it because it is an issue that really requires less than a second to identify and label; in what I consider a normal country, they'd face legal consequences. Still, you have to understand that those people waving the flag of Nazi Germany are a product of century-long miseducation and internalized propaganda. It's cruel irony, considering that the absolute majority of the victims of Europe's fascism and nazism were white Europeans, that a white man would fly the flag of something that killed the most white Europeans after the plague.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draynay View Post
    Fuck centrists, you're either against fascism or you're enabling them.
    The question of being a centrist is not halfway between fascism and normal life. I see it as individually weighing each matter for the optimal balance between the individual and the collective, with an humanly ethical approach being at the centre of it.

    In regards to the US, I would place centrism between conservative corporate cleptocracy and cultural-anarchist technocleptocracy, but both the dominant parties are heavily capitalist and by default center to center-right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnagarde View Post
    The problem isn't just who elevated whom
    Disagree.

    but that there's not really anyone willing to see past that and where cultural politics seem to be heading and pull the handbrake.
    Half of us have. Well, it's more than half, really. Your issue is with the people stomping on the gas.

    For what it's worth, I understand your resignation, and don't blame you for it. I just don't share it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnagarde View Post
    The problem isn't just who elevated whom, but that there's not really anyone willing to see past that and where cultural politics seem to be heading and pull the handbrake.
    Oh? This should be good: Where are the "cultural politics" headed that requires someone to pull the handbrake?

    Quote Originally Posted by Magnagarde View Post
    It's cruel irony, considering that the absolute majority of the victims of Europe's fascism and nazism were white Europeans, that a white man would fly the flag of something that killed the most white Europeans after the plague.
    As opposed to who? Or is this just one of those "the filthy Jews aren't white!" assertions? Because no one is surprised that the most people who die in white-majority countries during a time of open war are...you know...white people.

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