1. #4201
    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    So long as it is being fixed, I'm good with that.
    "Guys, Musk said he's going to fix the problem that he caused...it's all good now"
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  2. #4202
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Putting it on ignore keeps it out of my sight lines, but it's still there for everyone else, which means it does nothing to fix the issue and just lets it fester without opposition.

    Thanks, but no. I'd rather address the actual problem face-on rather than volunteering to stick my head in the sand and let it continue being a problem for everyone else.
    This bullshit again.

    No, ignoring a troll/bad-faith poster is not "letting it fester" or "sticking your head in the sand", it's starving it of the attention it needs to survive. We have been told repeatedly by mods--of which you WERE one--that we should not engage with trolls, ignore them and report them instead. Now, if you want to argue that they aren't doing their job effectively which is why people like Deparduh keep running rampant here, I'll agree. But you constantly trying to "logic" them into submission does absolutely jack shit as far as combatting their nonsense. It just gives them another springboard to regurgitate the same shit while ignoring or purposefully misconstruing everything you wrote--which they do ad fucking nauseum.

    You're not saving other people from it; you're propagating it. And, as I've mentioned before, people aren't coming to the politics sub-subforum of a random (and declining) gaming forum to form their views on politics. Nobody. Everyone here already knows how they feel about pretty much every aspect of politics and social reform and nobody is going to change because you or anyone else decided you have this righteous crusade against people who are proven time and again to be bad-faith, willfully ignorant bigots at best. The only reason this place even has a Politics subforum is to put all the shit in one spot so that it doesn't flood the topics of other forums. It's contained--mostly--to an isolated section so that other people can safely ignore it, the fucking disingenuous stooges and the self-important blowhards who can't resist responding to every provocation.

    I know this won't stop you and others from further spamming the threads pointlessly in response to people who have no intention of taking anything you say seriously, but if a handful of posts with links to reputable sources/facts doesn't deter someone from just flat-out posting misinformation continuously then neither will 3 pages worth of the same. It just bloats the thread with derailment after derailment time and again instead of an honest discussion about the topic among people who are at least willing to entertain new information.
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    This is like one of those bad Lifetime movies, "Whats Wrong with Tanya". Subplot, where was she on Jan. 6th?

    /warps in popcorn
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  4. #4204
    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    Just because you don’t agree with my posts, doesn’t mean I’m trolling — I’m absolutely NOT.

    How Endus proceeds is his business.
    Sure...but it's bad business...hence why Twitter is worth less now than when he bought it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    I mean, I wouldn’t say the NYT is a credible source.
    ...what are some credible sources to you then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    Which are we going to believe? Cause the latter makes more sense to me, rather than some conspiracy that Musk is trying to give pedos and racists a much louder voice.
    Or...option C - in your attempts to increase the right wing extremist voice your relaxation of moderation policies open the door to pedos and racists and you don't much care as you'd prefer to give the fringe right a voice rather than keep that other content off your platform.

    ​This also requires ignoring that the venn diagram between those two groups is nearly a circle.
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    It's called resistance / rebellion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    What's dishonest, is how you're posting, which relies heavily on these emotionally-fueld words to get your point across.
    Interesting. This you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    Honestly, I’m over every topic that needs a month of celebration. We need to move on from this stupid shit.
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    Of course not, but when every damn month is celebrating a whole month of something, it becomes pretty fucking stupid, and I’m not surprised that companies are starting to stop. I don’t wanna celebrate every damn thing, and I surely don’t wanna feel bad for not advertising that I’m supporting this months fake bullshit.
    I could go on.
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    It's called resistance / rebellion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    This bullshit again.

    No, ignoring a troll/bad-faith poster is not "letting it fester" or "sticking your head in the sand", it's starving it of the attention it needs to survive. We have been told repeatedly by mods--of which you WERE one--that we should not engage with trolls, ignore them and report them instead.
    I've always held the opinion that they're no better than trolls, but the mod team does not agree. People posting malicious disinfo or horrible opinions are, in the mod team's opinion, to be handled by users responding to criticize, not by mod action. If I had a problem during my time as a mod, it was that I crossed that line too far at times, taking mod action when it was not intended, so believe me, I'm well aware of that line.

    If you're going to tell me you don't agree, we'll, I don't either, but it's neither of our position to make that choice. Wasn't when I was a mod, either, and I expressed my stance back then, too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Didn't the recent news of Elon not paying Google for their services mean even less moderation?
    What an informed and on-topic question.

    Yes. I already posted on that, but here's another article just because:

    More platform instability could be in Twitter’s near future. In 2018, Twitter signed a $1 billion contract with Google to host some of its services on the company’s Google Cloud servers. Platformer reports Twitter recently refused to pay the search giant ahead of the contract’s June 30th renewal date. Twitter is reportedly rushing to move as many services off of Google’s infrastructure before the contract expires, but the effort is “running behind schedule,” putting some tools, including Smyte, a platform the company acquired in 2018 to bolster its moderation capabilities, in danger of going offline.

    If Twitter can’t migrate the system to its own servers before the end of the month, Platformer suggests a shutdown would greatly impact the company’s ability to combat spam and child sexual abuse material (CSAM). Before Saturday, Smyte had been already showing signs of strain, following Elon Musk’s deep cuts to Twitter’s workforce. In December, Musk reportedly asked Twitter’s trust and safety team why the automated system hadn’t caught a Twitter Blue user who had been impersonating him to pump a crypto scam. The team told Musk the system had been unstable for a week, crashing “at least once a day.”

  9. #4209
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    What an informed and on-topic question.

    Yes. I already posted on that, but here's another article just because:
    Well, at least we know that Musk is trying to be Trump 2.0. Not paying people, spouting off nonsensical conspiracies, promoting racial supremacy, banning or attacking others for making fun of him. All that needs to happen is he runs for president, loses and complains it was rigged and stolen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    He can not run for US President.
    Yeah. As it currently stands, you have to be a natural born citizen of US in order to run for president, and Musk was born in South Africa. Can't be a vice president, either.
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    And again, let’s presume equity in schools is achievable. Then why should a parent read to a child?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    Interesting. This you?

    I could go on.
    Those are some very emotionally charged words she typed. A whole lot of hyperbole too. By her own criteria, that would be a very dishonest way of posting.
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  12. #4212
    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    I’m not a speaker. I’m a person in the crowd yelling at you on your bullshit — not you directly

    And you know who else likes to be over-dramatic and constantly remind us how bad people are on the other side, every chance he gets? A certain individual they’re very much against.
    That's speaking. When you're calling someone else's bullshit, you're speaking. Do you not know how discussions, or metaphors for verbal discussion in text-based mediums work?

    Also, I hear that person also breathes air and eats food and drinks water. Which is just as equally notable and important to point out in that it's completely irrelevant and pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    I’m not a speaker. I’m a person in the crowd yelling at you on your bullshit — not you directly
    Cool, I never used the word speaker. I said poster, which you are. In fact, the statement where you declared that it is dishonest to use emotional charged words, you used the word "posting"

    You declared that posting emotionally charged words in order to get your point across is dishonest.
    You used emotional charged words in your posting to get your point across.
    Ergo, you are being a dishonest poster because of your use of emotionally charged words to get your point across.
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  14. #4214
    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    Do you have a credible link that confirms this?
    He literally has lost more than 2/3rds of the value and millions of customers since he took it over. Not to mention, banning people when he said it was supposed to be a free speech bastion.

    He bought it at $44 billion, its now down to $15 billion. https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/31/tech/...rchase%20price.

  15. #4215
    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    And I don't see that going anywhere... it would be bad for both sides.
    It's an archaic xenophobic tradition... so of course you agree.

    Any citizen should have all the rights and privileges of any other citizen...regardless of where they were born.
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  16. #4216
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Ive seen more annoying crypto bots. You cant mention the word money on that website without at least crypto bots replying.

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    Lmao I hope Musk wins this one. Charging over ppl posting pieces of songs on social media is abusr of copyright.
    It's still a copyright claim. He won't win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    "good friends"
    "unbanned all"
    "keeps promoting"
    "huge"
    "hugely"
    "obvious"

    That's a lot of just emotional, overdramatized trigger words to win whatever argument you feel you need to win. That's what I see more and more of and it gets really tiresome.

    My observations are not your observations.
    No, that's just the truth. He unbanned Kanye, Jordan Petersen, Project Veritas, Andrew Tate, and Donald Trump.

  17. #4217
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Ive seen more annoying crypto bots. You cant mention the word money on that website without at least crypto bots replying.

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    Lmao I hope Musk wins this one. Charging over ppl posting pieces of songs on social media is abusr of copyright.
    As far as the copyrights go, yeah, Musk will lose this one because the owner of the copyright has the right to decide who can and cannot distribute their art. That also includes pieces of said music. It isn't fair use as that has stipulations. Like private use, educational use or for parody purposes. The moment you publicly display or distribute someone's art without the permission of said artist, you are abusing their copyright for your own gain.

  18. #4218
    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    I mean, I wouldn’t say the NYT is a credible source. They often put out hit pieces that show bias and push intended narratives. I’d definitely like to read more on how they collected this data, and if it was really done in good faith, as I’m not seeing much context in the article.
    Yeah, no one can take you fucking seriously anymore if you think the New York Times publishes hit pieces with no credible evidence. Just take the mask off and put your hood on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    We’re supposed to be mad that Musk found a way to run the company without as many employees?

    I’m not mad.
    He isn't running it though, Twitter is literally falling apart.

  19. #4219
    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    Oh yeah, I heavily agree with it. There’s some things I don’t budge on, and that’s one of them.
    Ok...Why not? What purpose do you think it holds...other than to say to children that were born in another country but have lived their entire lives in the united states...that they are less than other citizens?
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  20. #4220
    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    What's dishonest, is how you're posting, which relies heavily on these emotionally-fueld words to get your point across. If you have to rely on that to make your point, ima feel towards you the exact way you feel towards me.
    AKA, you don't like the truth, and you are literally running to the right wing as fast as you can, just like Elon Musk did with that bullshit meme you posted.

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