Elon Musk Buys Twitter

[Edge-]

I love how Elon, who forces his tweets into peoples walls no matter if they want to see them or not, just spends his days replying to posts with "!" or "" to intentionally signal boost right wing conspiracy theories, disinformation, and bigotry.

I hope one of his rockets falls on him.

[s_bushido]

Ppl really going out pf their way to pretend that adding the prefix cis to the word "sissy" (which is a slur) stops it from being a slur xD

At least make the argument that it should not be banned regardless of it being slur lol

Even if we granted that "cissy" was a slur, he literally only mentioned "cis" and "cisgender" as being banned words on the platform. Kinda sucks for the guy whining about being called a "cissy" that daddy Musk didn't think it was devastating enough to make against the TOS.

[unfilteredJW]

I see our resident bigots got new fuel for their bigotry today.

[No Kings Voter]

Should bookmark tis thread.
When their kids ghost them in years. We can point to this moment.When their irony poisoned brain went full Elon Musk.

Sure Thankgiving is lonely now. But ... Elon Musk had a point.


/s

[diller]

Yes. Given how I personally see it repeatedly being used on social media, which very often comes with harassment, I can agree with the ban.

Why are you even seeing those post though, you only see content you chose so you must be following terrible people that get thrown insults at them.

[Edge-]

https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/co...dia_cisgender/

rofl, snowflakes are editing wikipedia now over this shit now.

imagine simping over the worlds biggest billionaire loser in the hopes that he'll drop by your tweets with a "!"

[Doctor Amadeus]

I think what is hilarious is people are talking about Bluesky created by the creator of Twitter, somehow forgetting Jack and Elon are friends and he helped Elon Purchase twitter.

[D Luniz]

The origins, according to the Tweet Musk agreed with, is in regards to Volkmar Sigusch, who apparently “coined the term”.

I’ll let you do your own reading about him.

Cause Musk NEVER agrees with erroneous tweets right?

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Even if we granted that "cissy" was a slur, he literally only mentioned "cis" and "cisgender" as being banned words on the platform. Kinda sucks for the guy whining about being called a "cissy" that daddy Musk didn't think it was devastating enough to make against the TOS.

Rather sure "sissy" isnt a banned word on there. Which says everything anyone need to know on Musk's motivation on this.

[VMSmith]

It's not that cisgender is an insult. It's that by using cis, you're semantically putting cisgenders and transgenders on the same level, they're two sides of a coin.

Transphobia doesn't want that. They want cis people to lack a name. They want to be the "normal", the default. That turns trans people into "the other", the weird.

Trying to modify public thought via limiting vocabulary is a totalitarian strategy from "Mr Free Speech for 8 bucks"

[Cthulhu 2020]

It's not that cisgender is an insult. It's that by using cis, you're semantically putting cisgenders and transgenders on the same level, they're two sides of a coin.

Transphobia doesn't want that. They want cis people to lack a name. They want to be the "normal", the default. That turns trans people into "the other", the weird.

Trying to modify public thought via limiting vocabulary is a totalitarian strategy from "Mr Free Speech for 8 bucks"

Couldn't have put it better myself.

Gotta love how all of the "free speech absolutists" always drop the mask as soon as they get an ounce of power. They cry victimhood and persecution when they're being banned for hate speech, and want "A free exchange of ideas free of moderation" and as soon as they feel insulted, they drop the mask and show their true colors, that they wanted to silence "other" people all along.

Even more funny that was just saw @Winter Blossom arguing a few days ago that the former twitter was too restrictive for banning actual violent hate speech, and that the current twitter with more open discourse is "better". But she suddenly agrees that people should be banned for saying "Cis" or "Cissy" to people? Wait, I thought you enjoyed the free speech absolutism discourse that was happening on Elon's twitter? What happened to wanting people to be able to speak freely?

Seems the mask dropped off.

[Breccia]

Transphobia doesn't want that.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

Neither could I.

"Cis" is as insulting as "straight". People who insist it be called "normal" are threatened by what they feel is "abnormal" people being treated as actual human beings.

[Cthulhu 2020]

I am not a free speech absolutist.

I didn't say you were a free speech absolutist, you just advocated for the "new" discourse style on twitter, and think people should only be banned for cases of extreme hate speech. You danced around describing EXACTLY what you thought people should be banned for, but it was pretty clear you thought people were being banned simply for saying racist and bigoted stuff and that you didn't agree with that.

So the question is, did you change your outlook on twitter's new political discourse, and believed a few days ago that it was good for people to be able to say what was on their mind, even if it's offensive - and NOW you think slurs should be bannable (well, cis at least, maybe not the others), or did you never hold the belief that discourse on twitter should be free and open and were just talking out your ass?

Because banning people for hate speech and excessive usage of bigotry and slurs to harass people was the old policy of twitter that you claimed to dislike. And it's what's happening now with Elon, but only for "cis" being a slur.

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Neither could I.

"Cis" is as insulting as "straight". People who insist it be called "normal" are threatened by what they feel is "abnormal" people being treated as actual human beings.

Yeah, this whole trans panic mirrors the gay panic of 10-15 years ago.

"They're going after and indoctrinating children!"
"I'm not straight, I'm normal."

I'd be disappointed in any LGB person who didn't want the T, but we know the UK's "LGB" "gender critical" groups are all founded by neo nazis pretending to be bi.

[unfilteredJW]

I am not a free speech absolutist.

Right.

The correct term is hypocritical bigot.

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Yeah, this whole trans panic mirrors the gay panic of 10-15 years ago.

"They're going after and indoctrinating children!"
"I'm not straight, I'm normal."

I'd be disappointed in any LGB person who didn't want the T, but we know the UK's "LGB" "gender critical" groups are all founded by neo nazis pretending to be bi.

They've done the same damn thing to every marginalized group.

There's a reason the Nazi's looked at us and went "There's some good ideas there."

[Xyonai]

Just gonna lean into the mic, not say this at anyone in particular but just shout it into the void because I wanna get it off my chest.

ahem

Cis is not a slur you fucking idiots, it's just another instance of bad faith fuckheads wresting language - in this case the word 'slur' - away from people they're oppressing to dilute its meaning. This isn't any different then when they started shitting out the word Groomer at every chance they got.

[Endus]

Just gonna lean into the mic, not say this at anyone in particular but just shout it into the void because I wanna get it off my chest.

ahem

Cis is not a slur you fucking idiots, it's just another instance of bad faith fuckheads wresting language - in this case the word 'slur' - away from people they're oppressing to dilute its meaning. This isn't any different then when they started shitting out the word Groomer at every chance they got.

The core of this is that every single bigot making this argument about "cis-" is doing so because they use "trans" as a slur. Just making this argument exposes the speaker as a transphobic shithead and liar.

[Darththeo]

People who insist it be called "normal" are threatened by what they feel is "abnormal" people being treated as actual human beings.

I remember telling someone if you found the more "normal" person, they would be abnormal for being how normal they are. The most normal thing a person can do is be somehow abnormal. It was actually freeing for me when I realized that everyone has some abnormality to them, I stopped caring if people saw me as "normal."

[ringpriest]

Just gonna lean into the mic, not say this at anyone in particular but just shout it into the void because I wanna get it off my chest.

ahem

Cis is not a slur you fucking idiots, it's just another instance of bad faith fuckheads wresting language - in this case the word 'slur' - away from people they're oppressing to dilute its meaning. This isn't any different then when they started shitting out the word Groomer at every chance they got.

It's part of the classic abuser pattern of DARVO (Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender). It's really sickening/terrifying how much the behavior of America's right-wing over the last 10 years is classic abusive behavior on a society-wide scale.

[Elder Millennial]

I rarely ever use Twitter for anything but reading the occasional important tweet or whatnot linked in an article or forum etc.

But today I made the mistake of opening the notifications section where there was someone linking to another tweet discussing the George Stinney execution.

Reading the comments on that ....the vile, violent, racist shit ... What the fuck. Twitter as a whole needs to be burned to the ground, this "thing" is utterly irredeemable.

[Endus]

Some more context from Musky regarding how this specific suspension works:

That's not "more context". That's still a violent bigot being an abusive tyrant over his own stupid willful ignorance over basic terminology, or more likely, his intentional dishonesty in pursuit of fostering hatred and violence against the minority group(s) he wishes to suffer.

[tehdang]

Some more context from Musky regarding how this specific suspension works:

I wager anything constituting an "egregious coordinated attack" would already run afoul of other rules.

For reach/recommendations, it will only take hiding it from the tweets subject to it for Elon to do exactly what the previous administration did, as detailed in the Twitter Files.