Elon Musk Buys Twitter

[Fantomen]

I won't get too much in policy and Ukraine, but you can say this might be a legit reason. Simply, you don't want your technology used for war to kill people. Except Musk took money from Ukraine government and so far the US Pentagon. I mean???

Get real, Starlink is a civilian system. Starlink was given to Ukraine to be used to give the civilain population of Ukraine internet access. That was that US agree to pay for and that was that Ukraine accepted.

There are a military variant of Starlink called Starsheld.

US refuse to give long range strike wepons to Ukraine, and geo-lock the missiles they give to Ukraine. Why are you holding Elon to a higher standard? Starshield exist for a reson, even if they are just a Starlink painted green. That is the system you can sue to kill people.

So then will you bach the US goverment for not transfer Starshield to Ukraine? I can not stand the hypocrisy.

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I see a degree of justification for the Dept of Defense takeover of Starlink.

Why? US elected to NOT send Starshield (the military variant of Starlink) to Ukraine.

[Deianeira]

Get real, Starlink is a civilian system. Starlink was given to Ukraine to be used to give the civilain population of Ukraine internet access. That was that US agree to pay for and that was that Ukraine accepted.

There are a military variant of Starlink called Starsheld.

US refuse to give long range strike wepons to Ukraine, and geo-lock the missiles they give to Ukraine. Why are you holding Elon to a higher standard? Starshield exist for a reson, even if they are just a Starlink painted green. That is the system you can sue to kill people.

So then will you bach the US goverment for not transfer Starshield to Ukraine? I can not stand the hypocrisy.

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Why? US elected to NOT send Starshield (the military variant of Starlink) to Ukraine.

So Musk shut down Starlink for no reason since they should have had Starshield if they wanted to use it for war?

[Fantomen]

So Musk shut down Starlink for no reason since they should have had Starshield if they wanted to use it for war?

Starlink is a CIVILIAN system, and was given to Ukraine for humanitarian reson. Ukraine acepted that. But in bad fate, Ukraine did use Starlink to controll their combat-drone-boats.

Civilian drones are geo-locked, like you can not fly them into a restricted air space (like a airport) hence "everybody" can buy a light civilian drone. If the drones was "un-locked" it would be a restricted item, that you need goverment licence/permission to buy and operate them. Hence limit the sale.

By not make a good fate effort to restrict Ukraine use of Starlink for military use. It transfrom the CIVILIAN Starlink to a tool of war, hence not "everybody" can buy Starlink in the future, becuse of its military aplication.

There are Starshield, the MILITARY variant of Starlink. That is a tool of war. Hence you need licence/permission to buy and operate them.

The question you shall ask yourself, why have the US goverment not given export licence to Ukraine for Starshield?

It feel very hard to blame Elon for refusing the CIVILIAN Starlink for military use, then the US goverment refusing sale of the MILITARY Starshield to Ukraine, whose purpose is military use.

[Gabriel]

Starlink is a CIVILIAN system, and was given to Ukraine for humanitarian reson. Ukraine acepted that. But in bad fate, Ukraine did use Starlink to controll their combat-drone-boats.

Civilian drones are geo-locked, like you can not fly them into a restricted air space (like a airport) hence "everybody" can buy a light civilian drone. If the drones was "un-locked" it would be a restricted item, that you need goverment licence/permission to buy and operate them. Hence limit the sale.

By not make a good fate effort to restrict Ukraine use of Starlink for military use. It transfrom the CIVILIAN Starlink to a tool of war, hence not "everybody" can buy Starlink in the future, becuse of its military aplication.

There are Starshield, the MILITARY variant of Starlink. That is a tool of war. Hence you need licence/permission to buy and operate them.

The question you shall ask yourself, why have the US goverment not given export licence to Ukraine for Starshield?

It feel very hard to blame Elon for refusing the CIVILIAN Starlink for military use, then the US goverment refusing sale of the MILITARY Starshield to Ukraine, whose purpose is military use.

No they fucking aren't.

[The Stormbringer]

If SpaceX had issues with Starlink being used for war, they should've brought that up and had actual talks with the Ukrainian government, not shut down service in an area to help the war-criminal invaders.

[jonnysensible]

so musk singlehandedly saved the black sea fleet from a suprise attack. which then proceeded to fire missiles at ukranian civilians. Needs a prig type incident.

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so musk singlehandedly saved the black sea fleet from a suprise attack. which then proceeded to fire missiles at ukranian civilians. Needs a prig type incident.

be a shame if he and companies associated with him lost their ability to do anything that requires a security clearance

i mean, that one time he took a puff of week with joe rogan triggered a big review of SpaceX, surely this should be a bit more serious?

[Shkar]

By not make a good fate effort to restrict Ukraine use of Starlink for military use. It transfrom the CIVILIAN Starlink to a tool of war, hence not "everybody" can buy Starlink in the future, becuse of its military aplication.

This is false. Basically every good and service has been used by armed forces in one way or another, but the vast majority remain civilian accessible. For the most obvious example, look at gas and electricity, which fuel every piece of technology. Look at radio waves, which had profound effects on war and continue to be used for cell phones today. Finally, for the closest fit, look at the internet, which does the exact same things as starlink.

[Edge-]

https://fortune.com/2023/09/07/elon-...lion-annually/

Well that's eye opening.

Apparently around 40,000 people pay an additional $4/month to get "exclusive content" from Elom. And otherwise the new "subscriptions" system where you can sub to folks feeds for stuff isn't super popular or making them too much money. Almost like it's a really bad value-proposition for anyone who doesn't already simp super hard for some billionaire apartheid techbro.

[CastletonSnob]

Musk's Starlink disrupted a sneak attack on a Russian fleet.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/07/ukra...sian-navy.html

[AntiFascistVoter]

Looks like Musk failed to Register as a Foreign Agent. Which is punishable by fine and five years in prison.

FARA violations were/are a recurring problem in the Trump admin and GOP at large.
GOP super donor Elliott Broidy famously pled guilty. for lobbying Trump on behalf of China.
Also the current GOP "Whistleblower", Gal Luft, was just charged with a FARA violation.

[Paranoid Android]

Get real, Starlink is a civilian system. Starlink was given to Ukraine to be used to give the civilain population of Ukraine internet access. That was that US agree to pay for and that was that Ukraine accepted.

There are a military variant of Starlink called Starsheld.

US refuse to give long range strike wepons to Ukraine, and geo-lock the missiles they give to Ukraine. Why are you holding Elon to a higher standard? Starshield exist for a reson, even if they are just a Starlink painted green. That is the system you can sue to kill people.

So then will you bach the US goverment for not transfer Starshield to Ukraine? I can not stand the hypocrisy.

He accepted the money!! Tha money!!!!!

I even gave editorial that Musk has right of his technology not to be used for war bot he accepted the money. Now if you don't get it when you accept money from a government, in this case Ukraine and the US government and choose to shut it down, then there is a problem.

An oh btw Starshield is just the name given after the US government purchased the Starlink system.

[Edge-]

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...a-x-to-pay-up/

Fairly large article on all the lawsuits Twitter is facing for not paying employees, not paying vendors, not paying landlords, and not paying all kinds of other folks.

It's long because there are a lot of lawsuits because Elom refuses to pay anyone. They should really send some folks from collections to just start taking laptops outta the building and shit. Treat him and Twitter like everyone else when they're months to almost a year delinquent on their payments.

[postman1782]

The Starlink regions in question were not activated. SpaceX did not deactivate anything.

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There was an emergency request from government authorities to activate Starlink all the way to Sevastopol.

The obvious intent being to sink most of the Russian fleet at anchor.

If I had agreed to their request, then SpaceX would be explicitly complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation

Yeah, that's a lie, if they weren't activated, then the drones wouldn't have worked at all. They were shut down. Listening to Elon Musk trying to defend his actions after doing it, is like believing Trump after he committed all these crimes.

[Edge-]

Him comparing it to Pearl Harbor is pretty hilarious too.

Like...yo Ukraine is already being invaded. Those ships are valid military targets. Dude is just desperate to have Putin's dick in his mouth but can't risk losing his security clearance by flying over there to offer his services directly.

[Edge-]

At this point the only people who seem to be doing well after Elom's purchase of Twitter are the lawyers who have a helluva lot of billable hours dealing with the mountain of lawsuits Twitter is wasting time on or defending against.

[Paranoid Android]

The Starlink regions in question were not activated. SpaceX did not deactivate anything.

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There was an emergency request from government authorities to activate Starlink all the way to Sevastopol.

The obvious intent being to sink most of the Russian fleet at anchor.

If I had agreed to their request, then SpaceX would be explicitly complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation

ROFL.

Your source is the guy trying to cover his ass? The person who has lied multiple times. One more time the guy who begged for money from the US cause guy tried to buy hero points by starting off saying Starlink would be free to the Ukraine people.

[D Luniz]

Elon Musk’s X Corp. sued California over its legislation requiring social media companies to explain how their content is moderated

A link to a news site rather than the needy screams of a billionaire's midlife crisis
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...ng%20the%20law.

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A link to a news site rather than the needy screams of a billionaire's midlife crisis
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...ng%20the%20law.

Doesn't he need to do this for the EU anyway? Or is he just going to shut Twitter down over there or something?

[Poopymonster]

Doesn't he need to do this for the EU anyway? Or is he just going to shut Twitter down over there or something?

That shit is probably part of why he yoinked Ukraine starlink. "Elon. It would be great shame. Very bad. If Strong Mother Russia banned your Twatter, X, or whatever you are be calling it now for helping those Ukraine Nazi dogs."