Elon Musk Buys Twitter

[Kaleredar]

What does that mean friendo? I feel like most right-wingers care a lot about it, but mostly because they don't want to get cancelled for anykind of bad speech they make.

"Cancelling" isn't against free speech. It's a bunch of people deciding, collectively, to use their free speech to call someone a dumbass not worth listening to because said dumbass likely said something racist or bigoted. There are no "legal" ramifications at play, and therefore no first amendment violations occurring. Twitter is not a government forum or public space, no matter how "prevalent" it or any other social media platform may have gotten.


The conservative argument seems to be "You can't use your free speech to say that my free speech calling X group a bunch of godless abominations who deserved to be executed/expelled/castrated/imprisoned is bad, that's against free speech!"

"Freedom of speech" in no way exonerates you from someone calling you or your opinion stupid, dangerous, misinformed and hateful. Because saying that they can't do that would infringe on their free speech.

[postman1782]

Elon Musk buying Twitter is the best thing that ever happened for free spech.

Only if you are a Nazi. That has been the only good thing for anyone, they can post without getting banned now for espousing the extermination of Jews and minorities.

[ringpriest]

What does that mean friendo? I feel like most right-wingers care a lot about it, but mostly because they don't want to get cancelled for anykind of bad speech they make.

You're confusing "free speech" with "freedom from consequences". The "right-wing" (in the United States, that means the Christo-fascists, although there's a reluctance to admit that) cares about "freedom from consequences". They don't give a damn about freedom of speech.

[Muzjhath]

What does that mean friendo? I feel like most right-wingers care a lot about it, but mostly because they don't want to get cancelled for anykind of bad speech they make.

Being "cancelled" is freedom of speech, and freedom of association.
It's the right I have to show you the door when you act in disgusting ways.

If I had a friend who unapologetic started spouting transphobic bullshit in my kitchen I'd throw them out and remove their contact details, after telling everyone I know about their transphobia.

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Things I learned from this recent conversation.

Muslims and Jews are a race. Hmm. Interesting.

Forgetting that 90%-ish of Jews are white...

And...



EDIT - Just realized my post could be construed as being supportive/dismissive of Musk/Mario poster dude's opinions. I will clarify that by saying "whites are being oppressed by Jews" is perhaps one of the most idiotic assertions I've ever heard of. Pants on head level of cognitive dissonance and the most obvious antisemitic assertion I've ever heard of. Just in case anyone was wondering.

You're forgetting a lot here with the history of racism and how it's functioned.
100 years ago the Irish weren't "white". Slavs weren't "white", Italians weren't "white", etc.

[Muzjhath]

Further proof of the shit takes from Musk and Mario. I guess, in their eyes, Jews haven't achieved true whiteness yet...

Oh 100% this is the case.

In US racism I'd argue it stems from lots of white racists feeling threatened after the 1960s and thus coming "together" more.

The KKK when it was formed also hated catholics, still did in the 1920s, can't speak of today.

But nothing made the "whites" in America get more unified like seeing "the blacks" having less of a boot on their neck.

[Forogil]

You're forgetting a lot here with the history of racism and how it's functioned.
100 years ago the Irish weren't "white". Slavs weren't "white", Italians weren't "white", etc.

Except that's bullshit,
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ews-and-so-on/

People don't need others to be of a different race to hate and discriminate against them.
(BTW: The Black Irish is a completely different myth.)

Interestingly the person who created the 'Irish weren't always white' myth was of Jewish descent, but allegedly so strenously objected to the university funding a kosher toaster that he was fired.

[Sorshen]

Elon Musk buying Twitter is the best thing that ever happened for free spech.

Lol, what free speech? He was doing censorship for Erdogan during the elections. Suspending his critics, while UK nazis' bans were reverted. He's suing journalists. He's a thin skinned shitposter.

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Just look at this shit, corrupt fraudster starts government investigation for his friend.



Meanwhile:

[Lenonis]

I don't know if you've ever grown up, but no, not everyone just hates people based on shit like race and skin color.

Meanwhile in adult-land we recognize concepts like unconscious bias and such - which is a far far far cry from "everyone just hates each other"

Kinda makes you wonder what sort of twisted environment one has to grow up in to think THAT is the norm?!?

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I was legit asking

No. No you weren't. You know why? Because if you actually cared you would have taken 0.00001 seconds to google it...or...y'know...opened literally any new source that isn't extreme right wing.

Instead you asked "but please why won't someone please share me the info that is so easily found with my lost self?"

And then immediately dismissed it, attacked the argument, and used it to springboard into a far-right diatribe.

It's literally textbook sealioning.

If on the 0.00000000001% chance you are honestly confused as to why this accusation is being leveled at you - now you know.

PS - how you respond to this will be very telling.

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mostly because they don't want to get cancelled for anykind of bad speech they make.

Yes yes, we all know right wingers want to be hateful bigots with no consequences.

[Kickbuttmario]

Being "cancelled" is freedom of speech, and freedom of association.
It's the right I have to show you the door when you act in disgusting ways.

If I had a friend who unapologetic started spouting transphobic bullshit in my kitchen I'd throw them out and remove their contact details, after telling everyone I know about their transphobia.

Apologies for taking so long to reply. Ryan Long had this skit where he was talking about free speech in the same way you do. It was he and his mates were arguing about free speech and Ryan comes in spewing a lot of hateful rhetoric, including bullying and all that, and his friends were surprised they wanted to kick him out, criticizing free speech under attack kek more. I can't find it yet butif I do, I'll send to you.

Trans issues are an extremely iffy subject right. Most of the right are completely correct on their conclusions of it being mostly used to fund surgeries and pharmaceutical products through social culture. That I will always believe. This issue is so controversial even other countries are banning puberty blockers and all that.

Meanwhile in adult-land we recognize concepts like unconscious bias and such - which is a far far far cry from "everyone just hates each other"

Kinda makes you wonder what sort of twisted environment one has to grow up in to think THAT is the norm?!?

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No. No you weren't. You know why? Because if you actually cared you would have taken 0.00001 seconds to google it...or...y'know...opened literally any new source that isn't extreme right wing.

Instead you asked "but please why won't someone please share me the info that is so easily found with my lost self?"

And then immediately dismissed it, attacked the argument, and used it to springboard into a far-right diatribe.

It's literally textbook sealioning.

If on the 0.00000000001% chance you are honestly confused as to why this accusation is being leveled at you - now you know.

PS - how you respond to this will be very telling.

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Yes yes, we all know right wingers want to be hateful bigots with no consequences.

Dude I knew a dispatch cop that told me her 2 cop friends were killed by black people a decade ago and she hasn't been able to view black people the same. You speak of bias but statistics goes out the fucking window when you are the victim of these kinds of things. I hate people like yourselves (I swear if I found out you just some white liberal) that speaks of such things as racism when victims of it are a completely different story.

Yes, a streamer I followed spoke terribly about Elon and I was annoyed cause I use twitter so I wanted to find the tweet. They were claiming that Elon said "Hitler was a good person" and was like "WHAT" so I tried to find it. I looked at twitter and couldn't find the aforementioned tweet about Hitler or anything like that. So it was the most disappointing thing to see that it was just an anti-white tweet he agreed with. Anti-whiteness is an issue because media do not want to talk about issues that are also happening to white people. Even when people call it an outlier or call anti-whiteness irrelevant, the majority of US population is of white. The right are correct about this.

As for the tweet itself, I can agree that its underlying tone is clearly an attack on jews or jewish media, as the right are claiming that jews are the ones mainly pushing this. Though I will say it's likely just specific jewish media or what not that are pushing it but I don't know the full story behind it. I've been hearing for a long time from other peoples that Jews are responsible so I assumed it would be the same. I can agree with this being Indian cause I've been seeing this too growing up against white peoples as family were immigrants. I will happily admit I was wrong here but the tweet is so worthless to me that unless I see some legit levels of Trump attacking illegals speech comparison to Hitler but I am so disinterested if its true or not because I know the anti-white agenda is happening. Don't care if its specifically jews, lefitists, or some other fucks orchestrating the agenda.

As for the right being hateful bigots. I see it on both political spectrums in which you judge or act on someone because of their race... I just don't believe or see this too much from the right. I do mean to insult at this moment, but you (assuming you're leftist) have the most pussy definition of bigotry I have ever seen. I honestly question the suffering that has occured in your life if you call this terrible.

I am replying to a myriad of replies, not just yours but just not that interested in this after finding out the tweet is just that.

[Benggaul]

Trans issues are an extremely iffy subject right. Most of the right are completely correct on their conclusions of it being mostly used to fund surgeries and pharmaceutical products through social culture. That I will always believe.

As if all the rest of the drivel wasn't enough, this is all the proof anyone needs that you have nothing of value to add to any conversation.

[unfilteredJW]

As if all the rest of the drivel wasn't enough, this is all the proof anyone needs that you have nothing of value to add to any conversation.

Bro was excited to go full awful in a giant wall of text.

Who could have seen that coming?

[Karreck]

Bro was excited to go full awful in a giant wall of text.

Who could have seen that coming?

He really did pull the mask off with that post. My God, that was some transphobic and racist shit. Can we add him to Shitty Voltron?

[Benggaul]

He really did pull the mask off with that post. My God, that was some transphobic and racist shit. Can we add him to Shitty Voltron?

I've been informed that the term I coined, "Shitty Voltron", hurts peoples feefees and we should discontinue using it.

Besides, Shitty Hydra is probably more apropos. Prune one shitty head and two more spring forth in its place.

Happy Holidays, folks!

[Rozz]

Since we can't get back on track, we need to move on. This is barely about Elon or Twitter at this point and further Forbidden Topic related commentary is not welcome.

[Dontrike]

And I didn't see the warning before doing that.

So anyways, Musk's lawsuit is bound to fail. Discovery will absolutely destroy any chance he has of winning. The moment even one pic is shown with pro-Nazi ads he's shit out of luck.

[postman1782]

And I didn't see the warning before doing that.

So anyways, Musk's lawsuit is bound to fail. Discovery will absolutely destroy any chance he has of winning. The moment even one pic is shown with pro-Nazi ads he's shit out of luck.

Basically he is trying to mandate his speech while trying to violate the free speech of the companies he is suing. Maybe he should stop alloying fascist bullshit on his site.

[Dontrike]

Basically he is trying top mandate his speech while trying to violate the free speech of the companies he is suing. Maybe he should stop alloying fascist bullshit on his site.

But Nazis think he's cool and this is what this whole this has been about, and if he stops then what does he have left in his life besides making shitty "trucks"?

[PgStckr]

Basically he is trying to mandate his speech while trying to violate the free speech of the companies he is suing. Maybe he should stop alloying fascist bullshit on his site.

Agreed.
He should definitely stop blatant, unhinged russophobia on X.

[Lenonis]

Ugh just saw the mod warning. Guess the insults will have to go unanswered.

On topic Paris Hilton did a 180 on advertising. Someone must have told her how awful Musk is.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...ed-1234892848/

[Kickbuttmario]

Last time I post here. You people don't know what Nazi means. Trans issues is literally a culture war issue (big one since children are being affected). Elon Musk has done much nastier shit like crypto and that other company stuff he does but that tweet is nothing.

You guys do nothing but insult. It is clear you haven't been around other races before or faced their issues either. Shared experiences... is something I seriously doubt you guys have gone through...

No... more like observations without any suffering in it then pretend you know what is... You people make me sick.

Elon Musk buying twitter was good for free speech. You people label any kind of speech you don't like as hate speech. You call the things I say formulaic but you are saying word for word same things said in your political group. And you're allowed to have your opinions on it and act based on it but all you've done was temper collective behaviour to a standard that many do not like and without realizing it. Ie cancel culture to an annoying level.

Sorry mods for saying off topic stuff but just wanted to get my thoughts out. Also hope Elon wins cause Media Matters CEO said far more antisemitic stuff than Elon ever did. >.<