1. #5281
    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    No, I don't have to explain that at all, they are your points, you have to explain how 1 is moot because it is within Russia's border but 3 is not despite being within Ukraine's border.
    No.
    You implied these are the same cases.
    Your claim, you're up to prove your own claim.

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    Elon Musk to meet Israeli president, Gaza hostage families on Monday

    Oh goodie.

    Tech entrepreneur Elon Musk, accused by civil rights groups of amplifying anti-Jewish hatred on his X social media platform, will meet Israeli President Isaac Herzog on Monday along with Israelis whose relatives have been held by Hamas in Gaza.

    Herzog's office announced the meeting on Sunday night, saying, "In their meeting, the president will emphasize the need to act to combat rising antisemitism online."

    Musk, a billionaire who also runs Tesla (TSLA.O) and SpaceX, did not respond to requests for comment through spokespeople for Tesla and X, formerly known as Twitter.

    Musk's visit coincides with a four-day truce in an Israeli war with Palestinian Hamas militants in Gaza during which 40 of the 240 hostages Israel says have been held by Hamas have returned to Israel.

    Israel's Channel 12 said Musk would also meet Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday. There was no immediate comment from his office.
    Look, the situation there is bad, any reasonable attempt to de-escalate is welcome. I am just...hesitant...to say this is it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PgStckr View Post
    No.
    You implied these are the same cases.
    Your claim, you're up to prove your own claim.
    Wait, let me quote someone who obviously knows what he's talking.

    Quote Originally Posted by PgStckr;
    1) Donbass was(and is) a part of Ukraine, so the point is moot.
    there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Elon Musk to meet Israeli president, Gaza hostage families on Monday

    Oh goodie.



    Look, the situation there is bad, any reasonable attempt to de-escalate is welcome. I am just...hesitant...to say this is it.
    Ok, but why, I mean, why are they meeting, what's the point?
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    I don't think
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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

  4. #5284
    Quote Originally Posted by PgStckr View Post
    Am I?
    Does it look like I'm trying to convince the conceited?
    Nope, you're trying to convince the ignorant, but unfortunately for you and your paycheck those folks were banned from this site. Go try Truth Social, that should be more your speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Ok, but why, I mean, why are they meeting, what's the point?
    I mean, the point from Musk's side could easily be PR. But, and yes I could be speaking out of ignorance here, I don't think either side would take a large cash bribe to stand down. I think the issue is deeper than "oh I backed into your car, look, here's $5,000 to take care of it and not tell my insurance".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I mean, the point from Musk's side could easily be PR. But, and yes I could be speaking out of ignorance here, I don't think either side would take a large cash bribe to stand down. I think the issue is deeper than "oh I backed into your car, look, here's $5,000 to take care of it and not tell my insurance".
    I am just confused that it makes the news when the most ignorant billionaire meets with heads of the state that gets blamed on his private social network for most of the bad things happening in the world. I don't get whose PR team thought, yeah, let's do that, that's a really great idea.
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    I don't think
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Nope, you're trying to convince the ignorant, but unfortunately for you and your paycheck those folks were banned from this site. Go try Truth Social, that should be more your speed.
    My paycheck?
    Are you insinuating something here?
    Well, this game works for two:
    Fortunately for your paycheck, the folk who laps up the westoid propaganda is being groomed on this site in vast quanitites. Go feed them some more True™ Democratic™ western koolaid.

    I'm sure that's the level of discussion you were aiming for.

  8. #5288
    Get back on the topic of the thread - keep the other discussions in the designated threads.

  9. #5289
    Quote Originally Posted by Radux View Post
    Get back on the topic of the thread - keep the other discussions in the designated threads.
    Well gee golly, I wonder what could be done to fix the problem of certain posters going off topic and causing this. A shame that such a thing doesn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Well gee golly, I wonder what could be done to fix the problem of certain posters going off topic and causing this. A shame that such a thing doesn't exist.
    Can't you like, copy paste a reply with quote into the appropriate thread, and if the guy keeps staying here for being off topic, report it?

    Anyhow, Elon meeting people of the Israeli government seems really weird.

  11. #5291
    Quote Originally Posted by PgStckr View Post
    Dunno, probably, Sweden being one of the top-4 countries with the highest percentage of rapes happening in 2023?
    That has got to win an award for "worst use of whataboutism when faced with being made to look like a complete fucking idiot".

    You had no response to the fact that Russia is causing the problem it claims to be worried about, and tried to pivot to this. Laughable.
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  12. #5292
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Elon Musk to meet Israeli president, Gaza hostage families on Monday

    Oh goodie.



    Look, the situation there is bad, any reasonable attempt to de-escalate is welcome. I am just...hesitant...to say this is it.
    Wait. Kanye doesn't get a chance? What other public figure who supports antisemitism gets a trip to Israel.

    This is effin stupid and so self serving how we cater to dumb bleep rich assholes.

    I could see this from a mile away.

    Elon "People I just quoted an antisemitic tweet. What should I do?" I know I will fly to Israel.

    This dumb shit can't help anyway and he is obviously one of those people who has an opinion from the last person he listened. Not surprised if he becomes anti Palestine.
    "Buh dah DEMS"

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    It is starting to look like Musk is positioning for a run for office. It is just weird how he injects himself into everything for no apparent reason.

  14. #5294
    Quote Originally Posted by Drutt View Post
    It is starting to look like Musk is positioning for a run for office. It is just weird how he injects himself into everything for no apparent reason.
    Judging from his track record he can't even run an office. If he wants to keep giving away his fortune, however, so be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drutt View Post
    It is starting to look like Musk is positioning for a run for office.
    Could be, that's a good read. Hopefully the US has learned its lesson about putting a failed businessman who set billions on fire for no reason in charge of the world's most dangerous economy.

    (looks at other threads)

    Oh. Right.

  16. #5296
    Points out the fact he isn't born in the US

  17. #5297
    Quote Originally Posted by Odinfrost View Post
    Points out the fact he isn't born in the US
    As far I recall he can still run for pretty much every office aside from president.

  18. #5298
    Quote Originally Posted by Odinfrost View Post
    Points out the fact he isn't born in the US
    "Running for office" doesn't just mean the Presidency. You can be a Senator or Representative or whatever the fuck. Schwarzenegger ran for and won the office of Governor of California, for example.

  19. #5299
    Quote Originally Posted by diller View Post
    As far I recall he can still run for pretty much every office aside from president.
    This. POTUS and VP are the only offices I believe requiring birth as a natural born citizen. Everything else is open. But I highly doubt he'd be interested, there's a lot of transparency and disclosure in relation to that and he'd probably have to stop spending all his time shitposting on Twitter.

  20. #5300
    To quote everyone's favourite billionaire.
    Do you know how much power I'd have to give up to be President?
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    Why is Elon inserting himself in the hostage situation?
    Same reason he inserted himself when a Thai children's soccer team got stuck in a flooded cave before calling one of the divers who rescued them a pedo. Because his ego is to big for his head.
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