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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacia Ultan View Post
    Because of course that venomous little creep went directly to baseless accusations of CSA without preamble.
    That's been their whole shtick since they started their shitty TikTok account. The only thing new is that she's putting on the mask of a Musk Dick-rider because he's incredibly easy to manipulate and prominence on his platform gives her a way to continue being an absolutely horrible human being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustedsaint View Post
    Threads bugging again, who b*tched out this time?

    Personally if I were a big company I would be cutting back on Twitter adds, after all the shit Elon been doing lately
    Several of them have, which is the cause of Elon's latest temper tantrum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    You think people prefer censorship rather than free speech?
    Quite obviously so.
    When they say shit like "I support free speech, just not hate speech" it sounds literally like "I support physics, just not gravity"\
    They are that clueless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Free-speech absolutists can join the conversation the moment they can explain why their implicit endorsement of child pornography as a legitimate industry that should be legalized shouldn't be all we need to know to condemn their utterly asinine misunderstanding of basic principles.
    Not to deal in absolutes, but how are you going to decide what speech is censored or not?
    Who's going to decide? That's the bloody thing.
    Is it okay if a private company superimposes it's own set of rules on what you can or cannot(or should) say, or rather, we the society agree to a certain set of rules to which all the communal platforms should abide and refer to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PgStckr View Post

    Not to deal in absolutes, but how are you going to decide what speech is censored or not?
    Who's going to decide? That's the bloody thing.
    Is it okay if a private company superimposes it's own set of rules on what you can or cannot(or should) say, or rather, we the society agree to a certain set of rules to which all the communal platforms should abide and refer to?
    Moderators. Literally right now you are posting on a site with rules and you abide by them. When it comes to Twitter perhaps "free speech" where you keep saying how much you want to kill X race, religion, or peoples isn't a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Moderators. Literally right now you are posting on a site with rules and you abide by them.
    Slightly off-topic, but apparently he doesn't which makes your statement rather amusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PgStckr View Post
    Quite obviously so.
    When they say shit like "I support free speech, just not hate speech" it sounds literally like "I support physics, just not gravity"\
    They are that clueless.
    An equivalent statement would be "I support free speech, just not child pornography". Or "I support free speech, but not violent threats aimed at specific people." Or "I support free speech, just not speech intended to incite a riot."

    Not all speech is protected, and pretty much everyone agrees with that principle. "Free speech absolutists" are mostly liars seeking to protect certain types of abusive speech. But hey, maybe you're the exception, and you really do support child porn.

    Not to deal in absolutes, but how are you going to decide what speech is censored or not?
    Who's going to decide? That's the bloody thing.
    The same way we already do, and always have. The same way we decide whether someone's actions are criminal, or not.

    The courts. That's what they're for. How is this even a question that you're confused about? Why do you people forget that laws always come down to the courts, and wring your hands about "who's gonna decide?" as if that's even an honest concern?

    Is it okay if a private company superimposes it's own set of rules on what you can or cannot(or should) say, or rather, we the society agree to a certain set of rules to which all the communal platforms should abide and refer to?
    That private company's rules apply only to its own staff and its properties, and only to the extent of firing that staff or removing people from their private property. Given those limitations, of course it's okay for them to establish standards; the alternative would be a gross violation of their freedom of speech, and freedom of association. Sure seems like you don't really understand what "freedom of speech" actually means. About the only justifiable exception here is protected classes; a store can't ban "black people" from the property, for instance.


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    Get fucked Elom.


    Musk calls Sweden’s strike ‘insane’ and Danish union chief piles on: ‘Even if you are one of the richest people in the world, you can’t just make your own rules’

    Tesla Inc.’s labor dispute is expanding to Denmark, where the country’s largest union said it will halt shipments of the cars to Sweden in support of striking workers in the biggest Nordic country.
    Harbor workers and drivers at the Danish 3F union will in about two weeks stop offloading Sweden-bound cars in Danish harbors and driving them to Sweden, preventing Tesla from circumventing a weeks-long blockade there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PgStckr View Post
    Quite obviously so.
    When they say shit like "I support free speech, just not hate speech" it sounds literally like "I support physics, just not gravity"\
    They are that clueless.
    Honestly, how poorly understood the concept of Free Speech is really is depressing. This is why we mock Freeze Peach, because people actually believe Freeze Peach Absolutism is a viable position to take and not completely indefensible when they start complaining about how of course they don't think child porn should be legal and that's so unfair that they're being asked to defend it as legal as part of their absolute position on Freeze Peach.

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    He's just gonna leave Europe for all his businesses since they'll actually either make him comply with regulations/laws or the workers will actually strike enough to cause problems.

    Boy, I can only imagine how miserable he must be with the whole world "out to get him".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Boy, I can only imagine how miserable he must be with the whole world "out to get him".
    I imagine it's not nearly miserable enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    I imagine it's not nearly miserable enough.
    Just to kick him when he's down: Twitter has lost $25 billion in value since he paid for it. That is based on a value Musk himself gave it, in an internal email the NYTimes got their hands on. Twitter is also saddled with billions in new debt, lost 60% of its advertising, and lost 80% of its workforce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Just to kick him when he's down: Twitter has lost $25 billion in value since he paid for it. That is based on a value Musk himself gave it, in an internal email the NYTimes got their hands on. Twitter is also saddled with billions in new debt, lost 60% of its advertising, and lost 80% of its workforce.
    And isn't a significant portion of that 80% of the workforce that he lost now in the process of suing him?
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    Norwegian unions are on board as well, get fucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    And isn't a significant portion of that 80% of the workforce that he lost now in the process of suing him?
    I mean, even "one" is significant, but, I have seen multiple lawsuits filed for Musk breaking severance contracts/promises and I don't think I've seen any of them settled or resolved. One in particular is for half a billion dollars. So, basically, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diller View Post
    Norwegian unions are on board as well, get fucked.
    Kalmar Union's in da house!

    Nordic Voltron ftw!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    Kalmar Union's in da house!

    Nordic Voltron ftw!
    What could have been if we hadn't been fighting each other every 20 years, lol.

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    MMOC's second-favorite lawyer has analysis on Elon's "thermonuclear" lawsuit.

    It's a tort suit, TLDR: Media Matters manipulated the Twitter algorithm intentionally to create these results that shouldn't otherwise happen because they have safeguards.

    Which is pretty silly on its face: I mean, of course they intentionally created these accounts to see if these results were possible. That was the whole point. The whole point was to see if this outcome, which Elon had previously claimed was basically impossible, was actually impossible or not. It's clearly possible, and lots of people found tons of other examples so...oops.

    Conservatives really seem to love wasting the judicial systems time with the most Karen-esque pointless lawsuits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diller View Post
    What could have been if we hadn't been fighting each other every 20 years, lol.
    The Swedes were untrustworthy and we were too lenient. There are lessons to be learned

    [possibly neither of those are facts, assume it facts at your own risk]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xarkan View Post
    The Swedes were untrustworthy and we were too lenient. There are lessons to be learned

    [possibly neither of those are facts, assume it facts at your own risk]
    Just because you never expected an invasion from the south in winter doesn't mean we are untrustworthy.

    And I'm just waiting for Elon to fold. And ofc a neo-liberal think-tank here in Sweden is on Elons side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzjhath View Post
    Just because you never expected an invasion from the south in winter doesn't mean we are untrustworthy.
    For some reason we still have a law that allows us to beat a Swedish man with a stick if we encounter him on the ice between Denmark and Sweden, lol.

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