1. #5421
    It's kind of distasteful that Musk is using that word as he really doesn't grok its true meaning.

  2. #5422
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    He's going to innovate a new approach that draws directly from Twitter,
    Isn't that precisely what he claimed it was in the first place?

  3. #5423
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Oh god.

    Headcannon because this is fun: He's going to blame "woke datasets" because it's probably trained on some basic standard dataset that respects people or something. He's going to innovate a new approach that draws directly from Twitter, and he's going to rename it "Tay". Maybe he can partner with Microsoft for it.
    Correction: He'll rename it "Ecks"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    It's kind of distasteful that Musk is using that word as he really doesn't grok its true meaning.
    Well, he missed the core of the entire novel.
    Heinlein might have been a weird sexually liberated libertarian who still managed to be a homophobe. So Elon should have understood it. But he still didn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Correction: He'll rename it "Ecks"
    Elmo has to rip something off, so he'll rename is Xay.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Oh god.

    Headcannon because this is fun: He's going to blame "woke datasets" because it's probably trained on some basic standard dataset that respects people or something. He's going to innovate a new approach that draws directly from Twitter, and he's going to rename it "Tay". Maybe he can partner with Microsoft for it.
    Others have stated the reason AI chat "respects" people so when corporations use it to replace all the workforce you are not calling up some support AI and it's calling you a bunch of slurs. Very standard business practice here.
    "Buh dah DEMS"

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    How much has Musk's antics costs the platform?

    X ad revenue reportedly fell $1.5B this year amid boycotts

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    How much has Musk's antics costs the platform?

    X ad revenue reportedly fell $1.5B this year amid boycotts
    Losing more money than some of the smallest countries.

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    In further Elon Musk. Telsa v Swedish Unions will soon get worse for Musky.
    Teamsters Union will stop with garbage collection at 00:01 the 24th of December if no union contract is agreed upon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    How much has Musk's antics costs the platform?

    X ad revenue reportedly fell $1.5B this year amid boycotts
    This is really bad news for X when you consider that the interest payments on the purchase loans alone are reported at $1 billion a year.

    This means that of the $2.5 billion in ad revenue left, $1 billion of this is immediately eaten up by just interest payments, a whopping 40% of ad revenue. This is before loan principal, staff wages, benefits, real estate, etc.

    X is utterly fucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drutt View Post
    This is really bad news for X when you consider that the interest payments on the purchase loans alone are reported at $1 billion a year.

    This means that of the $2.5 billion in ad revenue left, $1 billion of this is immediately eaten up by just interest payments, a whopping 40% of ad revenue. This is before loan principal, staff wages, benefits, real estate, etc.

    X is utterly fucked.
    He DID drastically reduce benefits and wages...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    He DID drastically reduce benefits and wages...
    And that's just of the survivors. He fired, what, 80%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    And that's just of the survivors. He fired, what, 80%?
    That's at least an 80% right sizing to allow the company to maintain forecasted profitability in the upcoming quarter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    How much has Musk's antics costs the platform?

    X ad revenue reportedly fell $1.5B this year amid boycotts
    Saying this is a boycott is like saying McDonald's is boycotting the Mariana Trench by not opening an outlet at the bottom of it.

    Advertising on Twitter is bad for business, so businesses don't want to have anything to do with it, that's capitalism at work, not socio-political activism.
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  15. #5435
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    But Xes are cool.

    The same energy as a 14-year-old calling themselves xXxDarkShadowxXx on Internet forums.
    Eeeeeyup.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    But boy it's a good thing that Elon didn't hold his firstborn child in his arms and feel his last heartbeat.

    As a reminder, he once apparently lied about holding his firstborn in his arms as the child died and how anyone that used the death of children for gain would receive no mercy from him, very much talking about Alex Jones.

    Alex Jones is now back on the platform.
    He's completely unprincipled, unless one argues that a desperate desire to suck up to the absolute dregs of the right constitutes "principle." A "free speech absolutist" when it comes to harassment and death threats from his fellow reactionaries, but making fun of him gets you banned. Does it come as any real surprise that he'd invite the archetypal RWNJ back with open arms after promising (with fingers crossed behind back) not to, even if his alleged personal reasons for making that promise hadn't been a lie?

    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    It's kind of distasteful that Musk is using that word as he really doesn't grok its true meaning.
    No one who uses "woke" as a pejorative ever has much of a grasp on anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Muzjhath View Post
    Well, he missed the core of the entire novel.
    Heinlein might have been a weird sexually liberated libertarian who still managed to be a homophobe. So Elon should have understood it. But he still didn't.
    As I told Corvus...

    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    Others have stated the reason AI chat "respects" people so when corporations use it to replace all the workforce you are not calling up some support AI and it's calling you a bunch of slurs. Very standard business practice here.
    And that's what his sort are outraged over: the very fact that standard business practice does preclude spewing slurs. There is no measure of "success" that they acknowledge which excludes license to abuse people as they see fit without consequence.

    Quote Originally Posted by PosPosPos View Post
    Saying this is a boycott is like saying McDonald's is boycotting the Mariana Trench by not opening an outlet at the bottom of it.
    I think you mean "blackmailing the Mariana Trench." That was the word Elmo used, after all. He's so far up his own ass that it's unreal.

    Advertising on Twitter is bad for business, so businesses don't want to have anything to do with it, that's capitalism at work, not socio-political activism.
    To that sort: whether it's "capitalism" or "activism" hinges primarily (if not entirely) on whether or not it goes in their favor.

  16. #5436
    The EU is looking into Xhitter on suspicion of breaching rules on illegal content/disinformation.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67749228

    Bad news for Musky boy.

  17. #5437
    Quote Originally Posted by Drutt View Post
    The EU is looking into Xhitter on suspicion of breaching rules on illegal content/disinformation.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67749228

    Bad news for Musky boy.
    I mean... everyone should have seen that one coming the moment Elon embraced conspiracy theories.

    The whole reason Facebook, Twitter, ect started cracking down on disinformation themselves was to head off governments forcibly imposing it on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    I mean... everyone should have seen that one coming the moment Elon embraced conspiracy theories.

    The whole reason Facebook, Twitter, ect started cracking down on disinformation themselves was to head off governments forcibly imposing it on them.
    I saw it coming when the rule against spreading disinformation got nuked. Then again: the performative party switch (I doubt he was ever actually voting Democratic in the face of his being chummy with Greg Abbott, and his pretense that it was about "love and tolerance" versus "hate and division" was self-evident bullshit) made it clear that he was not someone who should be in charge of a major social media platform...and that was before he bought out Twitter.

    So between that, and the vaunted Twitter Files showing that it was right-wing outlets that were receiving overly lenient treatment and trying to control the narrative? Too bad that's not when his current string of ruined business relationships started.

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    Judge rules Twitter breached contract by blocking millions of pay bonuses

    The company promised employees half of their potential bonuses both before and after tech billionaire Elon Musk purchased the company in 2022, but never paid, according to the suit.

    Mark Schobinger, then the company’s senior director of compensation, brought the lawsuit against the social media platform in June.

    “Once Schobinger did what Twitter asked, Twitter’s offer to pay him a bonus in return became a binding contract under California law,” District Judge Vince Chhabria wrote in the opinion.

    “And by allegedly refusing to pay Schobinger his promised bonus, Twitter violated that contract,” he added.

    The company argued that the bonus agreement was merely an oral promise and should not have to be paid per Texas law.

    Chhabria, instead, held the company to California law, which establishes that the agreement was legally binding.

    “Twitter’s contrary arguments all fail,” Chhabria wrote.
    Musk has really proven to be a chain failure, hasn't he? But it's one thing to simply invite racists and terrorists back on the site. That's just immoral, but not illegal. Breaching contracts is a far more tangible matter. I do hope that the workers Musk intentionally wronged get what they're legally obligated, and a little more for their troubles.

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    So today just REALLY hurt Musk's case

    This is Twitter's trending on Christmas day, 14:38 Central Standard



    Things like that aint what you want when you have a defamation case coming up where you're claiming people are faking the amount of racism on your platform.
    "Law and Order", lots of places have had that, Russia, North Korea, Saddam's Iraq.
    Laws can be made to enforce order of cruelty and brutality.
    Equality and Justice, that is how you have peace and a society that benefits all.

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