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  1. #541
    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    Seems like DeGrasse Tyson is ignoring Musks support for Far Right Wing Conspiracy Grifters like Tim Pool.
    Huh? In what world is Tim Pool far right wing? Has something changed I should be aware of?

  2. #542
    Quote Originally Posted by D3thray View Post
    Huh? In what world is Tim Pool far right wing? Has something changed I should be aware of?
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-co...-on-the-planet

    I mean, he legit spent much of the past few years platforming unhinged conspiracy theorists and liars from the far right. He's basically Joe Rogan for people who think they're too smart for Joe Rogan. Just like, even less funny than Joe Rogan, who is not very funny to begin with.

    It's wild how some folks have lurched so far to the right that they've legit lost any perspective on the political spectrum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    Possibly he's saying you shouldn't make assumptions based on race. A white person could be homeless and a black person could be a billionaire, which means you can't make valid generalizations about race/class status.

    Also which right wing policies does he support? It's better to talk about policy disagreements rather than people because you can't really resolve anything just by talking about public figures, so you need to talk about which of his policy positions you disagree with, and why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    Possibly he's saying you shouldn't make assumptions based on race. A white person could be homeless and a black person could be a billionaire, which means you can't make valid generalizations about race/class status.
    Which has literally nothing to do with privilege, but it's not surprising that you and conservatives still can't seem to grasp what the simple concept means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    Possibly he's saying you shouldn't make assumptions based on race. A white person could be homeless and a black person could be a billionaire, which means you can't make valid generalizations about race/class status.
    Race-blind garbage like this is just casual racism packaged up in a dismissive attitude.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Race-blind garbage like this is just casual racism packaged up in a dismissive attitude.
    How is it racist? What do you think is inaccurate?

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    Which has literally nothing to do with privilege, but it's not surprising that you and conservatives still can't seem to grasp what the simple concept means.
    Well there is nothing wrong with being privileged anyways. "Privilege" is just a proxy for "merit".
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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    Well there is nothing wrong with being privileged anyways. "Privilege" is just a proxy for "merit".
    In which you make it abundantly clear you don't understand the concept of privilege.

    For example: White people aren't pulled over regularly by virtue of them being white. That's not because they're "better" or because they have more "merit", and has nothing to do with their life situation - whether they're rich or poor, disabled or not etc. That's white privilege, not needing to worried about being pulled over for "driving while white", whereas people of color often have to be worried about being pulled over for "driving while black/brown", for example, even if they're wealthy and successful.

    I don't know how such a basic concept that's been commonplace in discussion for at least a decade is still so mysterious, but here we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    How is it racist? What do you think is inaccurate?
    Race-blind mantras ignore context and injustice, whitewashing it away so that the societal inequities can be blamed upon a lack of merit, when they're actually based on racism and other forms of injustice.

    It's just straight racism. A false veneer of politeness doesn't make it less bigoted and abusive.

    Well there is nothing wrong with being privileged anyways. "Privilege" is just a proxy for "merit".
    Wherein you implicitly argue that whites are superior. Kudos.


  10. #550
    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
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    Thats dumb not racist xd

  11. #551
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Thats dumb not racist xd
    It wasn't to show racism. It was to show Tim Pool repeating right wing talking points in response to someone claiming that Pool hadn't moved pretty far right.

    Because he has, and he is constantly platforming their extremist views unchallenged on top of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    It wasn't to show racism. It was to show Tim Pool repeating right wing talking points in response to someone claiming that Pool hadn't moved pretty far right.

    Because he has, and he is constantly platforming their extremist views unchallenged on top of that.
    Oh yeah. Tim Pool is unhinged lol

    Dude is teethering on the far right and prob hasnt because he still needs a thin layer of credibility to not be banned from social media

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Oh yeah. Tim Pool is unhinged lol

    Dude is teethering on the far right and prob hasnt because he still needs a thin layer of credibility to not be banned from social media
    But do you know what makes him far right in terms of political policy? If we were to create a list of the top 15 political issues then we'd probably find that Tim Pool is largely in agreement with centrist liberal policy.
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  14. #554
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    But do you know what makes him far right in terms of political policy?
    You do realize that the conservative movement in the US has largely abandoned political policy and instead pursues culture war bullshit...right? Like, you've been literally involved in dozens of the threads on this topic so this shouldn't really be "news" for you.

    Also, you were given examples and are seemingly choosing to ignore them. We can lead you to water, but we can't force you to actually take a drink.

    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    If we were to create a list of the top 15 political issues then we'd probably find that Tim Pool is largely in agreement with centrist liberal policy.
    In which you continue to make up more bullshit without evidence or basis to justify your continued position that remains at-odds with objective reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    You do realize that the conservative movement in the US has largely abandoned political policy and instead pursues culture war bullshit...right?
    Ya that's my point, it is just culture war stuff and he mostly doesn't want right wing political policy.
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    In which you continue to make up more bullshit without evidence or basis to justify your continued position that remains at-odds with objective reality.
    If you're saying Tim Pool is guilty of something then the burden of evidence is on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    Ya that's my point, it is just culture war stuff and he mostly doesn't want right wing political policy.
    They're literally the same thing at this point.

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    If you're saying Tim Pool is guilty of something then the burden of evidence is on you.
    We have. As I said, we can lead you to water and we can stick your face in the water, but we can't force you to actually take a drink.

  17. #557
    Quote Originally Posted by D3thray View Post
    Huh? In what world is Tim Pool far right wing? Has something changed I should be aware of?
    He opposes vaccinations, abortion, gender-affirming care, and probably western medicine in general.
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  18. #558
    Has this thread shifted to pretending that Tim Pool isn't a far right mouthpiece, just because the drooling imbecile has claimed he's not on twitter? Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    Has this thread shifted to pretending that Tim Pool isn't a far right mouthpiece, just because the drooling imbecile has claimed he's not on twitter? Jesus.
    It's apparently the new talking points, applied to Tucker Fuckerson too.

    Deny that they're bigoted far-right shitbirds, claim you can't tell that from their words alone (you can), and instead, to determine if literally anyone is a bigot of some flavor, you need a magical form of soul-sight that lets you look past objective reality and see their immortal souls laid bare before you.

    These people would claim you can't know that Hitler was an anti-semite, by the same standard. It's obvious dishonest horse shit and every single one pushing this garbage is a bad-faith actor whose goal is to disrupt discussion and be a waste of everyone's time, because any effort spent debunking them is not spent on pointing out bigotry.

    Just make fun of them for being absolutely fucking ridiculous and move on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zython View Post
    He opposes vaccinations,
    That's not a right wing policy though, that one would be closer to a libertarian policy in regards to bodily autonomy. Like even the worst criminals in prison should have bodily autonomy rights in terms of what goes in their body.
    abortion,
    Okay yes that is very right wing if he has said that abortion shouldn't be an option available to women. If he was just quibbling about the specifics of Roe v Wade or something like that then that's not as big of a deal.
    gender-affirming care,
    It's right wing and authoritarian if he wants to enforce traditional gender norms, but it's possible he is just criticizing what he views as excessive gender sensitivity.
    and probably western medicine in general.
    Oh is he one of those traditional/holistic medicine people? It's like believing in magic, it doesn't work in an explainable way.

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    Anyways getting back to the topic; Elon Musk. He does not really support right wing policy and as far as Twitter he will not try to boost the right wing or silence the left wing. He's above that kind of nonsense.
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