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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    It's late so just giving you link

    https://x.com/rebeccaballhaus/status...tP1Mm249A&s=19

    Basically elmo had regular contact with Putin since 2022.

    How are we giving this person government contracts?

    I'm telling you Dems have to stop playing nice and kissing the ass of every billionaire. Immediately cancel every government dollar as threat to national security.
    Don't remember if I said it 8 this or the space one but Musk definitely would have had his clearance stripped by now.


    Old Cold War era US intelligence agencies/defense contractors would have found a way to push him out of SpaceX too. SpaceX is already a glorified subsidiary of NASA thats allowed its own commercial ventures on the side. SpaceX is only independent on paper, the US has invested too much time and energy into to let someone behaving like Musk to be at the rudder.


    NASA chief,Bill Nelson comments on Musk's relationships


    Musk is going to need for Trump to desperately win as much as Trump need it if Musk doesn't want to see multiple federal agencies clamp down on his properties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I think even he knows nobody is clicking on my teachers sex leg, she so sex. Which do you like? I like the secone.
    But have you seen what happens when you mix vaseline and coke? (to think companies like Dior used to advertise on X)
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    I mean, that's probably why he so quickly and so firmly supported Trump. There are lots of investigations already underway or lawsuits coming down the pipe for Musk and his companies, he's just good about not complaining about them openly like Trump, but he's involved in a lot of legal trouble, him and his companies.

    I'd say Dems should do it, make a spectacle of it, but the big problem is that all conservatives and many moderates/centrists see conservative crime as just normal, and all legal action taken against them in purely political in nature because the conservative machine has so effectively painted a picture of themselves as victims. They saw that they couldn't make fun of minorities with slurs and went "Oh yeah you think you're a victim? Let me show you how good we are at being professional victims!" and now every moderate blockhead believes Dems are overstepping by pursuing legal recourse against... crimes.
    I would say this actually goes deeper than just "conservative crime". Corporations have spent decades normalising corporate sleaze, and they have managed to turn anything committed in the name of corporate efficiency a virtue. And we are at a stage where anything done by a corporation or a CEO _is_ a virtue just by them doing it. Granted, so-called conservatives are more likely to buy into this mindset but I suspect plenty of old fashioned business-minded Democrats would also agree.

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    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...as-1235146555/

    Elon Musk Is Offering People His Sperm While Creating a Family Compound in Texas
    WOULD YOU LIKE TO CARRY ELON MUSKS SPERM INSIDE YOU AND CREATE A BABY? WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE TO A COMPOUND AND LIVE WITH ELON? ARE YOU DEEPLY MENTALLY UNWELL AND THIS SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA?

    We're watching the richest man in the world melt down like a fuckin incel in real time. Fucking wild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...as-1235146555/



    WOULD YOU LIKE TO CARRY ELON MUSKS SPERM INSIDE YOU AND CREATE A BABY? WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE TO A COMPOUND AND LIVE WITH ELON? ARE YOU DEEPLY MENTALLY UNWELL AND THIS SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA?

    We're watching the richest man in the world melt down like a fuckin incel in real time. Fucking wild.
    Family Compound?
    Texas?
    Is it along 35, about halfway between DFW and Austin?
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    Family Compound?
    Texas?
    Is it along 35, about halfway between DFW and Austin?
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    I’ll keep saying it - close your Twitter accounts, people. Make this dangerous jackass irrelevant. You have the power. He needs you way more than you need him.

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    Pretty much all of Poppy's posts are getting community noted, even the "dick riding" reply got community noted, saying that community notes is not a physical entity and can thereby not ride a dick. She's now threatened to get her lawyers involved because she makes ALL of her revenue off of posting on X (formerly twitter) and the community notes are ruining her revenue stream.

    Unsurprisingly, the person who is incredibly confident that Puerto Ricans aren't US citizens is also a Jill Stein voter. Trust Jill Stein voters to not know civics or pretty much anything about government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post

    Pretty much all of Poppy's posts are getting community noted, even the "dick riding" reply got community noted, saying that community notes is not a physical entity and can thereby not ride a dick. She's now threatened to get her lawyers involved because she makes ALL of her revenue off of posting on X (formerly twitter) and the community notes are ruining her revenue stream.

    Unsurprisingly, the person who is incredibly confident that Puerto Ricans aren't US citizens is also a Jill Stein voter. Trust Jill Stein voters to not know civics or pretty much anything about government.
    Someone with way too much time on their hands is community noting EVERYTHING from the past 48 hours or so.
    And it's all relevant to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Countdown to community notes being disabled

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    I would say this actually goes deeper than just "conservative crime". Corporations have spent decades normalising corporate sleaze, and they have managed to turn anything committed in the name of corporate efficiency a virtue. And we are at a stage where anything done by a corporation or a CEO _is_ a virtue just by them doing it. Granted, so-called conservatives are more likely to buy into this mindset but I suspect plenty of old fashioned business-minded Democrats would also agree.
    President Obama's Attorney General says hello: subprime mortgage crisis
    On March 6, 2013, Holder testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee that the size of large financial institutions has made it difficult for the Justice Department to bring criminal charges when they are suspected of crimes, because such charges can threaten the existence of a bank and therefore their interconnectedness may endanger the national or global economy. (See financial contagion). "Some of these institutions have become too large," Holder told the committee, "It has an inhibiting impact on our ability to bring resolutions that I think would be more appropriate."
    Prosecution rates against crimes by large financial institutions are at 20-year lows. Holder has also endorsed the notion that prosecutors, when deciding to pursue white-collar crimes, should give special consideration to "collateral consequences" of bringing charges against large corporate institutions, as outlined in a 1999 memorandum by Holder. Nearly a decade later Holder, as head of the Department of Justice, put this into practice and has demonstrated the weight "collateral consequences" has by repeatedly sought and reached deferred prosecution and non-prosecution agreements and settlements with large financial institutions such as J.P. Morgan Chase, HSBC, Countrywide Mortgage, Wells Fargo, Goldman Sachs, and others where the institution pays a fine or penalty but faces no criminal charges and admits no wrongdoing. Whereas in the previous decade the Bush administration's Department of Justice often sought criminal charges against individuals of large institutions regardless of "collateral consequences" such as cases involving Enron, Adelphia Communications Corporation, Tyco International, and others.
    In July 2015, Holder rejoined Covington & Burling, the law firm at which he worked before becoming attorney general. The law firm's clients have included many of the large banks Holder declined to prosecute for their alleged role in the financial crisis
    "For the present this country is headed in directions which can only carry ruin to it and will create a situation here dangerous to world peace. With few exceptions, the men who are running this Government are of a mentality that you and I cannot understand. Some of them are psychopathic cases and would ordinarily be receiving treatment somewhere. Others are exalted and in a frame of mind that knows no reason."
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    New: On
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    ’s X, Republicans go viral as Democrats disappear.

    We analyzed 100 top political accounts and found that Republicans are getting followed more and going viral more now that the world’s richest Trump supporter is running the show.

    Look at these charts:


    Yeah some cool charts in link. Not really.

    No surprise but data here that Elon is juicing the algo.

    There was another tweet I came across that the Wall Street Journal setup an account that followed cooking, craft, sports; etc but then account got heavily doused with political questioning the election. A note here tho KamalHQ was #1 or at the top. So wasn't all just Republican.
    "Buh dah DEMS"

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    I don't know how much is Musk juicing the algorithm and how much is just people leaving. Anecdotally my recommendations aren't too different from usual, but I'm definitely seeing more and more people (and companies) taking steps do get their bsky followings established.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    [screenshots]

    Pretty much all of Poppy's posts are getting community noted, even the "dick riding" reply got community noted, saying that community notes is not a physical entity and can thereby not ride a dick. She's now threatened to get her lawyers involved because she makes ALL of her revenue off of posting on X (formerly twitter) and the community notes are ruining her revenue stream.

    Unsurprisingly, the person who is incredibly confident that Puerto Ricans aren't US citizens is also a Jill Stein voter. Trust Jill Stein voters to not know civics or pretty much anything about government.
    Are we sure this isn't a "parody" account? I honestly can't tell anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    President Obama's Attorney General says hello: subprime mortgage crisis
    My point exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    Pretty much all of Poppy's posts are getting community noted, even the "dick riding" reply got community noted, saying that community notes is not a physical entity and can thereby not ride a dick. She's now threatened to get her lawyers involved because she makes ALL of her revenue off of posting on X (formerly twitter) and the community notes are ruining her revenue stream.

    Unsurprisingly, the person who is incredibly confident that Puerto Ricans aren't US citizens is also a Jill Stein voter. Trust Jill Stein voters to not know civics or pretty much anything about government.
    From what I can tell that poster is rage-baiting - I don't think he/she actually means anything they are posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diller View Post
    From what I can tell that poster is rage-baiting - I don't think he/she actually means anything they are posting.
    I mean, that seems to be the norm these days. People know that posting misinformation/disinformation gets more hits than simply posting real facts, because people have this urge to either agree or correct that person.

    That was the IDEA behind community notes, to combat that disinformation/misinformation and prevent people from content farming for income on twitter. They even made a rule that deliberate misinformation content farming/rage baiting was against the rules now, but it's not like they enforce that rule especially with conservative accounts. And as we know, conservative accounts are getting major boosts on the algorithm right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    My point exactly.
    capitalism loves its institutional capture. Who woulda figured?
    The hammer comes down:
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    Normal should be reduced in difficulty. Heroic should be reduced in difficulty.
    And the tiny fraction for whom heroic raids are currently well tuned? Too bad,so sad! With the arterial bleed of subs the fastest it's ever been, the vanity development that gives you guys your own content is no longer supportable.

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    The judge is moving up the hearing and requiring Leon attend? Sounds like someone's in for some scolding for continuing to act like an unhinged loser who thinks laws and rules don't apply to him.

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    So apparently Musk's canvassing efforts involved flying in people from out of state under false pretenses, giving them incredibly high targets and threatening to withhold payment for lodging and transportation back home if they didn't meet them, and bussing them around to their neighborhoods in the back of a U-Haul:
    https://www.wired.com/story/elon-mus...ichigan-uhaul/
    “I was in shock and disbelief,” says a paid door knocker flown to Michigan to help turn out the vote for former president Donald Trump on behalf of Elon Musk’s America PAC.

    In Michigan, canvassers and paid door knockers for the former president, contracted by a firm associated with America PAC, have been subjected to poor working conditions: A number of them have been driven around in the back of a seatless U-Haul van, according to video obtained by WIRED, and threatened that their lodging at a local motel wouldn’t be paid for if they didn’t meet canvassing quotas. One door knocker alleges that they didn’t even know they were signing up for anything having to do with Musk or Trump.

    A representative for Musk and America PAC did not return a request for comment.

    The contract these door knockers signed with Blitz Canvassing, which is a subcontractor of Musk’s America PAC, says they are “expected to maintain a 17-22% engagement rate during the campaign,” which is a high target relative to the number of people who typically open their door for a stranger. A group of out-of-state America PAC canvassers were told during a recent team meeting that if they didn’t hit their targets, which the door knocker says were more than 1,000 a week on total doors knocked, the organization would stop paying for their motel rooms.

    “What’s gonna happen is, they’re gonna stop paying for these rooms,” a manager told the door knockers in an audio recording obtained by WIRED. “And then you’re gonna end up having to pay for it yourself. You can’t do that with no money.” The door knocker also alleges that they were told that they will have to pay for their own flight home.

    Blitz Canvassing, which had received more than $9 million from America PAC for presidential campaign canvassing as of October 29, did not immediately reply to a request for comment.

    One of the canvassers, who was flown in from outside the Midwest, tells WIRED they had no idea they would be knocking on doors in support of Trump or that the subcontractor they were working for was part of Elon Musk’s voter-turnout operation through America PAC.

    “I knew nothing of the job, or much of the job description, other than going door to door and asking the voters who are they voting for,” says a door knocker who was one of the people in the back of the van and who is requesting anonymity because they signed a nondisclosure agreement. “Then, after I signed over an NDA, is when I found out we are for Republicans and with Trump.”

    The door knocker adds that they had “overheard my supervisor and a few others mention Elon Musk” by name, marking the first time they had heard of the billionaire X owner’s involvement.

    The Trump campaign has largely outsourced its field operation in Michigan to Musk, a move that has come under heavy criticism as previously reported by WIRED. Blitz Canvassing has also reportedly had issues with fake door knocks being flagged by Campaign Sidekick, the glitchy app used by America PAC. In Nevada and Arizona, up to a quarter of the door interactions were flagged as potential fakes within the app, according to The Guardian. (“Sidekick was never expected to handle the auditing of America PAC’s door operation. The reason the PAC is confident in its numbers is because of the auditing procedures each canvassing firm puts in place and the auditing procedures of the PAC writ large,” a person familiar with the America PAC operation told The Guardian at the time.)

    Field organizing normally does not work this way. The gold standard for door knocking apps is MiniVAN, and transportation usually involves carpooling with other volunteers or campaign staff offering a ride—preferably, with seat belts.

    Initially, the paid door knockers for the Blitz subcontractor didn’t have transportation to get around Michigan, since no one in the group had a valid driver’s license. On Saturday, October 19, supervisors for the canvassers initially commandeered some Ubers for them to reach their list of addresses. But by Sunday, the door knockers were loaded into a rented U-Haul moving van with no rear seating or seatbelts, in a photo and videos viewed by WIRED. “We were all told our transportation would be handled and we’d be in rental cars. It turned out to be U-Haul vans, and I felt embarrassed and played,” the door knocker tells WIRED.

    The video from inside the van shows a bumpy ride, with a cage separating the mostly Black door knockers from their driver. The driver also told the group of door knockers that he was in pain and had difficulty driving: “I just had surgery, bro,” the U-Haul driver says in another recording obtained by WIRED. “Like half of my foot is cut off.”

    “I’m scared,” the door knocker who spoke to WIRED replies on the recording.

    “And all [the manager] is concerned about is how many motherfuckin’ doors the bitch got,” the driver responds.

    The canvassers were then dropped off roughly 40 minutes apart from each other, relying on the mobile app to log their interactions at front doors.

    In a contract agreement reviewed by WIRED, door knockers were given specific “performance guidelines” along with a mandate to “keep the GPS function of their personal device turned on during all working hours.” Each knock at the door must be done in 15 seconds or less, and the contractors “must remain on a property for at least 30 seconds.”

    The Campaign Sidekick app used by America PAC has severe limitations in its functionality, including the lack of a geo-tracking feature—hence the requirement that canvassers leave GPS services on for their personal devices at all times, according to a contract reviewed by WIRED—forcing them to use “offline walkbooks,” a function of the America PAC app, that don’t offer the support of GPS or real-time upload capabilities.

    While this particular group of door knockers was being managed through Blitz Canvassing, screenshots shared with WIRED show America PAC listed in the mobile app they were using to knock on doors.

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