Elon Musk Buys Twitter

[Xyonai]

All the morons talking about how "we must save the human race from extinction by making more babies" actually mean "We need more white babies".

Specifically, the school of 'Wealthy weirdos popping out kids like a Zerg spawning pit' thought, that's pretty much about making sure there are enough of their 'genetically superior' scions running around to lead humanity into the future.

It's not entirely divorced from the 'White Replacement' weirdos, but the mentality is fairly distinct to people who acquire the amount of money one needs to experience rapid brain rot and start thinking they're a 15th century aristocrat.

[D Luniz]

Elon was forced by court order to reveal Twitter's owners.

USA Today had the best short run-down I could find:
X's initial shareholder list unveiled: Sean 'Diddy' Combs, Jack Dorsey, Bill Ackman tied to platform,


Jack Dorsey is the founder and former owner of Twitter (he's nutty by billionaire standards, but seems sane compared to Musk), Ackman is a rabidly pro-Israeli venture capitalist from the pro-billionaires wing of the Democratic party. Andreessen is a Silicon Valley billionare (via Netscape), who has moved his support to Trump as Biden failed to cater to billionaires sufficiently. His business partner Horowitz (also via Netscape) was avidly pro-Trump until last month when, belatedly realizing Trump might lose, he started dumping money to Harris as well. Others listed include noted child rapist and rapper Sean "Puff Daddy" Coombs, 3rd generation member of the Saudi dictatorship's ruling family Al Waleed bin Talal Al Saud who has an unclear but seemingly favorable relationship with Acting Dictator MBS, UnipolSai is part of one of Italy's larger financial conglomerates, and 8VC is a Peter Thiel (patron of GOP VP nominee JD Vance) affiliated venture capital fund. There's also a number of more conventional "someone told us this would make money" types like Fidelity (who have effectively been suckered - high finance is not really brighter than Joe Sixpack, in many ways) and a bunch I don't recognize, other than as shell companies and wealth management fronts, who could be fronting for anyone, from well-off posters here to Putin himself.

so it's safe to say, all people that would view the changes to twitter into its current form as "services rendered"
making it less a loan than a backdoor buyout, and the public either loves or hates Musk as a result while they can do business without being boycotted

[Edge-]

https://www.reuters.com/legal/judge-...ay-2024-11-04/

Elon Musk's pro-Trump group does not choose the winners of its $1 million-a-day giveaway to registered voters at random, but instead picks people who would be good spokespeople for its agenda, a lawyer for the billionaire said on Monday.

Musk lawyer Chris Gober was trying to persuade a Pennsylvania judge that the giveaway was not an "illegal lottery," as Philadelphia district attorney Lawrence Krasner alleged in a lawsuit seeking to block the contest ahead of Tuesday's U.S. presidential election.

"We weren't running an illegal lottery! We were looking for spokespeople and were just advertising it as and telling people it was an illegal lottery!

I really hope the courts don't put up with this transparently stupid bullshit.

[Shadowferal]

That lawyer...that's not a good argument.

[Edge-]

That lawyer...that's not a good argument.

What other argument do they have? They were running an illegal lottery. There's no other explanation for what they were doing that isn't illegal. This is likely the least-stupid defense they have available, even if it's hilarious bullshit, so his lawyers have to make it.

That or he's burned though enough lawyers that he's recruiting from the same pool of lawyers Donald has been using.

[Gorsameth]

The correct thing would be to not advertise it as a lottery if your picking the winner. But Musk chose to advertise it as a lottery (which would be illegal) and then not actually have a lottery (which I assume is also illegal).

Tho there might be some fine print hidden somewhere that says that they pick a winner.

[Mekh]

Reminds me of the way Artesian Builds killed their company.

[Edge-]

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/litiga...on-sweepstakes

Voters who signed up for Elon Musk’s million-dollar voter giveaway are suing the Tesla Inc. chief and his America PAC, claiming entrants were misled about how winners were picked.

A day after surviving a legal challenge in Pennsylvania, Musk’s daily sweepstakes was hit Tuesday with fresh claims in federal courts in Texas and Michigan.

Jacqueline McAferty of Arizona alleged she never would have signed the America PAC petition and handed over personal identifying information if she knew the winners weren’t picked at random and she had no chance of taking home $1 million. In reality, the winners weren’t picked at random, but were carefully selected to be spokespeople for the pro-Donald Trump political action committee.

Hopefully this will go somewhere. Absolutely wild watching rich folks just brazenly, intentionally, publicly break the law and for the course to basically not even seem to be remotely concerned about it.

[DarkTZeratul]

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/litiga...on-sweepstakes

Hopefully this will go somewhere. Absolutely wild watching rich folks just brazenly, intentionally, publicly break the law and for the course to basically not even seem to be remotely concerned about it.

I remarked earlier that "we're not running an illegal lottery because we're actually committing fraud" was a hell of a take, and this is part of why.

[Sorshen]

Surprised the note is not gone by now.

[Rasulis]

Musk needs to hurry up with his robotaxi. I saw Zoox in SoMa over the weekend.

[Poopymonster]

Surprised the note is not gone by now.

Elon looks up, with tears in his eyes, and asks Donald "Why...why are my peaches thawing?"

[Fantomen]

Musk needs to hurry up with his robotaxi. I saw Zoox in SoMa over the weekend.

No, Tesla are trying to do a general solution which works on all roads, hence is very easy to scale. Zoox are going on a "rail" and cant drive outside the rail (hd scanned streets, that need to be constantly updated) Hence it very hard to scale.

If Tesla is right, Zoox is obeleate, if Zoox is right, Tesla can do a Apple and buy them, so Tesla wins regardless.

[En Sabah Nur]

Musk needs to hurry up with his robotaxi.

Hey, he's halfway there with how the cybertruck looks like a Johnny Cab from 30 years ago!

[Rasulis]

No, Tesla are trying to do a general solution which works on all roads, hence is very easy to scale. Zoox are going on a "rail" and cant drive outside the rail (hd scanned streets, that need to be constantly updated) Hence it very hard to scale.

If Tesla is right, Zoox is obeleate, if Zoox is right, Tesla can do a Apple and buy them, so Tesla wins regardless.

I did not see any rails and Zoox is owned by Amazon.



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[Dontrike]

Also, the taxis will have remote operators in case of emergency or AI failure.

Might as well just have constant remote drivers at that point, cause they're gonna fail a lot if Tesla's self driving is anything to go by

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

No, Tesla are trying to do a general solution which works on all roads, hence is very easy to scale. Zoox are going on a "rail" and cant drive outside the rail (hd scanned streets, that need to be constantly updated) Hence it very hard to scale.

If Tesla is right, Zoox is obeleate, if Zoox is right, Tesla can do a Apple and buy them, so Tesla wins regardless.

I am constantly amazed how people can still believe a word that comes of Ol' Musky's mouth when it comes to...well...generally anything...but specifically "fully autonomous cars".

In 2015, He said that Fully Autonomous cars were just two years away
In 2017, He said that Fully Autonomous cars were just two years away
In 2018, He said that Fully Autonomous cars were just 6 months away
In 2019, He said that Fully Autonomous cars were going to be on the road that year
in 2020, He said that Fully Autonomous cars were going to be on the road by the middle of the next year
In 2021, He said that Fully Autonomous cars were going to be on the road by the end of that year
In 2022, He said that Fully Autonomous cars were going to be on the road by the end of that year
In 2023, He said that Fully Autonomous cars were going to be on the road by the end of that year

[Jessicka]

I am constantly amazed how people can still believe a word that comes of Ol' Musky's mouth when it comes to...well...generally anything...but specifically "fully autonomous cars".

In 2015, He said that Fully Autonomous cars were just two years away
In 2017, He said that Fully Autonomous cars were just two years away
In 2018, He said that Fully Autonomous cars were just 6 months away
In 2019, He said that Fully Autonomous cars were going to be on the road that year
in 2020, He said that Fully Autonomous cars were going to be on the road by the middle of the next year
In 2021, He said that Fully Autonomous cars were going to be on the road by the end of that year
In 2022, He said that Fully Autonomous cars were going to be on the road by the end of that year
In 2023, He said that Fully Autonomous cars were going to be on the road by the end of that year

They're the nuclear fusion of our day.

[Odinfrost]

They're the nuclear fusion of our day.

Don't worry. Once the fully autonomous car is out in two weeks, big brain man and Grand tech Wizard Musky will invent fusion in three days. Trust me, bro

[PhaelixWW]

They're the nuclear fusion of our day.

Except nobody with any sense ever thought viable fusion was doable in any convenient timeframe.

Hell, hot fusion isn't even workable yet, with the current record of 48 seconds being set earlier this year. Cold fusion is still a pipe dream, especially since most theories for it require another as-yet-undiscovered advancement: room temperature superconductors.

Autonomous cars are at least feasible with current technology, and the rollout would be fairly quick once it's achieved.

But making optimistic promises about it is just dumb, regardless.