1. #6881
    Really? Could have sworn the reason he was in America was because he moved to California from Canada in 1995 to "go to school" but never actually enrolled in any classes, and he didn't actually get US citizenship until 2002, meaning he was basically an illegal immigrant abusing a student visa for ~7 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1872860577057448306



    If this isn't a textbook definition of crashing out idk what is

    For context: White supremacist MAGA are starting to realize that companies like X, Tesla, and other highly technical companies are only hiring H1 B visa immigrants. Elon and Vivek have both said they do this because white Americans are too dumb and lazy, which of course has angered the white supremacist wing of MAGA. They're demanding to know why Elon and other right wing tech companies refuse to hire Americans born on American soil, or even consider their job applications.

    The short answer that Elon and Vivek won't tell you, is that H1-B migrant visa workers are effectively indentured servants. You can pay them diddly squat, and to keep their work visa they have to comply with every order given. On the other hand native born white Americans demand higher pay, and can both question their boss as well as threaten to quit if things aren't going their way.
    You're absolutely right about how corporations use the H-1B program. Technically, there's an out, in that if the employee can find a different job without getting fired by their current employer, who will absolutely fire them, report them to immigration, and in general fuck them over as much as possible, lest the other indentured servants get ideas. Which in practice means they have to find a job without their current employer finding out. And then they're in the same boat with their new employer, who might not be as evil.

    But the main reason I responded was to point out that Elon is lying. The H-1B program was created in late 1990, spinning off from the H-1 visa that had not been (ab)used in the way he and his ilk have abused the H-1B. Unless you think that "hundred of companies... that made America strong" took place entirely in the last 33 years. (Something I would certainly not agree with, although to be fair, I've been largely absent for over a decade. Maybe the US has gotten much better in the last 10 years... but I don't think so.)
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    Wait, the corpo billionaire guy is acting like a corpo billionaire guy?

    MAGA who apparently are doing their best Ray Charles impression, somehow did not see this predictable turn of events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Wait, the corpo billionaire guy is acting like a corpo billionaire guy?

    MAGA who apparently are doing their best Ray Charles impression, somehow did not see this predictable turn of events.
    Lest we forget, Elon was against Trump for a very long time. He endorsed candidates running against Trump in 2016 and 2020 and has called Trump a buffoon in the past. I was literally only in the past year that Elon jumped into bed with Trump, and many long time MAGA are calling him an opportunistic bandwagon hopper now.

    Elon is STILL crashing out on twitter and he's taking away paid blue checks from the MAGAs who question him, and even deleting accounts of people who really anger him.

    Free speech absolutist throwing a tantrum. Trump isn't even in office and the Elon MAGA divorce has already started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    Lest we forget, Elon was against Trump for a very long time. He endorsed candidates running against Trump in 2016 and 2020 and has called Trump a buffoon in the past. I was literally only in the past year that Elon jumped into bed with Trump, and many long time MAGA are calling him an opportunistic bandwagon hopper now.

    Elon is STILL crashing out on twitter and he's taking away paid blue checks from the MAGAs who question him, and even deleting accounts of people who really anger him.

    Free speech absolutist throwing a tantrum. Trump isn't even in office and the Elon MAGA divorce has already started.
    I mean...they're correct. Leon is an opportunist, and they welcomed him (and his hundreds of millions of dollars) with open arms despite everyone telling them he was an opportunist.

    I should dig more into this Twitter drama. I didn't have, "Leon completely implodes and goes to war with MAGA trolls" on my bingo card for 2024.

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    lol musk is deleting all of his unhinged tweets from his crash out last night



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    Did his ketamine microdose last night turn into a ketamine macrodose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I mean...they're correct. Leon is an opportunist, and they welcomed him (and his hundreds of millions of dollars) with open arms despite everyone telling them he was an opportunist.

    I should dig more into this Twitter drama. I didn't have, "Leon completely implodes and goes to war with MAGA trolls" on my bingo card for 2024.
    Yeah I figured it wouldn't be until 2025, Leon speed ran his beef with MAGA because his fragile ego couldn't let him just lie about not hiring Americans. He could have made fake accounts and had them come forward pretending to be white people hired by X and said "See we employ white people too!" But instead he had to defend his H1B visa abuse and call white americans dumb and uneducated.

    BTW, last night in a twitter space, which is basically just a big group chat on X, Elon went onto his sock puppet account with a voice changer and started cussing out anyone who was at all critical of Elon. People who have known him for a long time confirmed the name was one of his fake account aliases, and the speech patterns were analyzed and it's 100% him. Elon has lots of sock puppet accounts that all just simp for him. Many of them appeared shortly after he acquired twitter and gained hundreds of thousands of followers over a course of days with barely any posts.

    He's a 53 year old richest man in the world acting like I did when I was 14.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    lol musk is deleting all of his unhinged tweets from his crash out last night

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    What the fuck is this? Are these two unhinged bots talking to each other?

    "Do you make this lie?"

    Is this an actual English sentence?
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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    I seem to have missed an important detail in this beef with white supremacist MAGA:

    Vivek and Elon want to dramatically expand the H1-B visa program to allow for even more (asian) immigrant workers to be shipped over to the US for tech jobs, when they got pushback from anti immigrant MAGAs, they basically said "White tech dudes are lazy and dumb and not nerdy enough for us, they spend time watching TV and playing sportsball instead of working 24/7"

    Waiting to see what happens now that Leon and Vivek have given up the goose and let all of MAGA know they want to expand immigration.
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    The illegal wants to expand immigration, what a twist.
    Cue shocked pikachu meme for the maga tards, not even in office yet and this round is already shaping up real nice for memes.

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    MAGA speed learning that their culture war doesn't matter and billionaires only care about their own interests is pretty funny.

    On the other hand, Musk is hardly doing this out of the kindness of his heart. He wants maximal amounts of foreign labor because they're cheap, competent, and compliant, whereas American labor might just be competent. Time will tell if this spat spills out into a brawl, but I don't want Musk to win this in the end and have actual influence on Congress and the White House. Both he and MAGA have dystopian visions for America, but the latter are a bunch of complete fools while Musk is actually pretty competent, if unhinged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    Waiting to see what happens now that Leon and Vivek have given up the goose and let all of MAGA know they want to expand immigration.
    It's hard to predict, as it depends on what Trump will do. Vivek and Elon don't have any actual power through DOGE. If he does support DOGE he might risk a somewhat hostile congress, but Trump always goes for his own self intrests... what does he care about congress anyway?

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    The funniest part of Twitter right now is that the literal white supremacist nazis are starting to wake up to class consciousness, realizing that the "work until you die" mentality is not tenable. Most of the major nazi accounts who used to berate people for wanting better working conditions, more pay, more PTO, more benefits, etc. are now suddenly like "Actually, H1B immigrants who take 40% of our pay, work holidays, get no benefits and awful working conditions is bad actually"

    Kinda shitty that they've only arrived at this realization because of their overt racism and desire to proliferate the white race. There's literally an account right now who's criticizing Elon, and his defense against the MAGA who are calling him communist for wanting better working conditions is to say "I want to see the white race thrive and proliferate"

    That's what national socialism was, the native "aryan" Germans getting government benefits and protections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    I seem to have missed an important detail in this beef with white supremacist MAGA:

    Vivek and Elon want to dramatically expand the H1-B visa program to allow for even more (asian) immigrant workers to be shipped over to the US for tech jobs, when they got pushback from anti immigrant MAGAs, they basically said "White tech dudes are lazy and dumb and not nerdy enough for us, they spend time watching TV and playing sportsball instead of working 24/7"

    Waiting to see what happens now that Leon and Vivek have given up the goose and let all of MAGA know they want to expand immigration.
    But it's not just Elon we've done this dance before and ironically during the Trump administration when he cancelled a program for workers in the fishing industry. It backfired spectacularly the owners his voters were livid as their businesses were going under and he had to reverse. Now take that same scenario and play it over every single sector (agriculture, construction, meat packing etc.) all those businesses are going to want special exemptions or downright refuse to comply.

    MAGA is going to be eating itself this is just the start, Elon wants cheap foreign workers and so does every single Trump voter in those industries even more where Americans don't want those jobs. I suggest we all invest in popcorn because if Trump follows through they are going to be at each other's throats.

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    Elon: We need to get rid of all the racists from the Republican party!

    But if you do that, the only ones left will be the pedophiles.

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    This is the funniest crash out I've seen since the woman who had a days long fight with the community notes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    But it's not just Elon we've done this dance before and ironically during the Trump administration when he cancelled a program for workers in the fishing industry. It backfired spectacularly the owners his voters were livid as their businesses were going under and he had to reverse. Now take that same scenario and play it over every single sector (agriculture, construction, meat packing etc.) all those businesses are going to want special exemptions or downright refuse to comply.

    MAGA is going to be eating itself this is just the start, Elon wants cheap foreign workers and so does every single Trump voter in those industries even more where Americans don't want those jobs. I suggest we all invest in popcorn because if Trump follows through they are going to be at each other's throats.
    It's why I wasn't overly worried about Trump's whole "deport everyone" stupidity. It sounds good to likely-racist voters but the powers that be will shut that idea down very, very quickly indeed. Far too many influential industries depend on immigrant labor in the US, legal or no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1872506366784688433

    I'm honestly a bit disappointed that folks aren't more skeptical of Screenshots On The Internet In The Year Of Our Lord 2024. It would be deliciously funny, especially in light of my earlier joke about him macrodosing ketamine, but it very much it an altered version of a tweet and isn't real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jastall View Post
    It's why I wasn't overly worried about Trump's whole "deport everyone" stupidity. It sounds good to likely-racist voters but the powers that be will shut that idea down very, very quickly indeed. Far too many influential industries depend on immigrant labor in the US, legal or no.
    Frankly I don't know maybe Trump wants to tank the US economy so that central banks the world over will bring back free money inflating his own assets, line his pockets with low interest rates loans which would be a boon to his own real estate empire. The president has expansive power on immigration policy, tariffs, etc due to an impotent congress thanks to decades of gerrymandering.

    If the US crashes and burns the rich will make out like bandit in the long run maybe not all of them but the ones Trump would care about the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    Frankly I don't know maybe Trump wants to tank the US economy so that central banks the world over will bring back free money inflating his own assets, line his pockets with low interest rates loans which would be a boon to his own real estate empire. The president has expansive power on immigration policy, tariffs, etc due to an impotent congress thanks to decades of gerrymandering.

    If the US crashes and burns the rich will make out like bandit in the long run maybe not all of them but the ones Trump would care about the most.
    I doubt it gets anywhere near that. Trump's too incompetent to use his power towards such a clear goal, he mostly wanted to keep out of legal trouble, spite the people he hates, and enact some pet projects he thinks will bring him the recognition/attention he believes to deserve like the whole tariffs nonsense. Grandiose plans to reconfigure the American economy are beyond his scope. At worst he'll do loads of damage by being as inept as during his first mandate. Still bad mind you, but not the same thing.

    Musk tho, could have said grandiose plans. He won't be President (unless SCOTUS and Congress go literally full retard in his favor) so I don't want to overstate his influence but he's far more likely to actually to accomplish something deliberate than Trump's shtick of throwing shit at the wall.
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