1. #7301
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    There's been a local group of unemployed Trump supporters in my neck of the woods hanging out on an overpass every day, they're boring and dumb. But I do keep an eye out, and I'm happy to go up and introduce myself if any of them ever decides to get a little bit Nazi.
    Most of the time these bastards are all bark and no bite as well, if directly confronted most of them fold like paper, but some of them are downright psychotic and just wait for a fight, do make sure you know how to pick that fight, because the genuine nazi psychos do not hold back.

  2. #7302
    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbutler View Post
    Most of the time these bastards are all bark and no bite as well, if directly confronted most of them fold like paper, but some of them are downright psychotic and just wait for a fight, do make sure you know how to pick that fight, because the genuine nazi psychos do not hold back.
    It's Daily Fail since I can't find a YT link, but I think about this video if this bitch-ass Nazi getting punched in the face by a Black man a lot, it's one of my favorite videos: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/ne...one-punch.html

  3. #7303
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    It's Daily Fail since I can't find a YT link, but I think about this video if this bitch-ass Nazi getting punched in the face by a Black man a lot, it's one of my favorite videos: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/ne...one-punch.html
    The dude was raised nicer than I XD

    I was always told, if you are in a fist fight and your opponent goes down you absolutely do not kick them once they are on the ground, unless they are a nazi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbutler View Post
    The dude was raised nicer than I XD

    I was always told, if you are in a fist fight and your opponent goes down you absolutely do not kick them once they are on the ground, unless they are a nazi.
    There is one rule in a fight. Win.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

  5. #7305
    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbutler View Post
    Most of the time these bastards are all bark and no bite as well, if directly confronted most of them fold like paper, but some of them are downright psychotic and just wait for a fight, do make sure you know how to pick that fight, because the genuine nazi psychos do not hold back.
    I was filmed in front of a school and posted as a call to action (aka we need to kill people like this) in a "sovereign citizen" facebook group that's basically a nazi group, police worked insanely fast since this guy and the group has been on their radar for a while but hadn't overstepped yet.

    2 weeks later, even after the video was taken down and the group deleted by meta, I was sucker punched in the back of the head at the same primary school I was filmed. Lucky it wasn't lethal, was fcking painful for a few days later.

    I don't fucking know their machinations, but I'm not safe from them, and it's obscene to me that people still run varying levels of defense for nazis. Germany has it right IMO, don't even bother humouring these shitbags, we've been down that road already.
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  6. #7306
    Not content with throwing out nazi salutes, Musk is now making nazi jokes, which was finally enough to get the adl to condem him.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...se-1236116321/

  7. #7307
    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Not content with throwing out nazi salutes, Musk is now making nazi jokes, which was finally enough to get the adl to condem him.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...se-1236116321/
    more evidence for my, "conservatives are incapable of being intentionally funny" because that's not even good wordplay, that's just boring and unfunny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Not content with throwing out nazi salutes, Musk is now making nazi jokes, which was finally enough to get the adl to condem him.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...se-1236116321/
    The ADL can eat all the shit.

    They're Nazi apologists. They're trying to cover their asses at this point because they made it way too obvious trying to handwave an obvious Nazi salute.

  9. #7309
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    The ADL can eat all the shit.

    They're Nazi apologists. They're trying to cover their asses at this point because they made it way too obvious trying to handwave an obvious Nazi salute.
    The ADL did Nazi this coming!

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  10. #7310
    Watch the first 20 seconds.

    He knows the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    Not really sure how that works. They're banning x links so they don't support Elon but at the same time I haven't seen anyone criticizing the people they follow that still use that platform.

    Sure, you're gonna ban X links, but you don't care about the video game/dev company (for example) that is still happily posting and getting money from engagement and supporting Elon's website?

    Good ol' capitalism.
    You can't just expect people shift away from Twitter in a day. You're talking about companies that have their communication networks based on Twitter. Some companies run their customer support through Twitter. It's not fair for a subreddit to demand everyone who visits it's subreddit to not use Twitter, that's just ridiculous. Ridiculous as any sort of purity test.

  12. #7312
    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    Not really sure how that works. They're banning x links so they don't support Elon but at the same time I haven't seen anyone criticizing the people they follow that still use that platform.

    Sure, you're gonna ban X links, but you don't care about the video game/dev company (for example) that is still happily posting and getting money from engagement and supporting Elon's website?

    Good ol' capitalism.
    Basically, they are saying they are not going to directly contribute to helping Elon with anything. It is the same as a group saying that their members will no longer buy products at, lets say, Wal-Mart for workers rights violations or Target or Costco. They aren't saying that people still cannot shop there, just that they won't do business with them.

    It is a protest.

  13. #7313
    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    Here is an expert German opinion on this:



    "A Nazi salute is a Nazi salute is a Nazi salute."

    Germany is past fucking around; they have already found out.
    It's worth noting that the article suggests it's attention-seeking behaviour in the subtitles. So they are viewing it in a differentiated, and probably more accurate way, than just going he's Trump's little helper, or Goebbels 2.0.

    However, and this is important for Nazis defending him to realise: Motivation doesn't matter. This is a line where the "why" cannot justify being a Nazi. End of tolerance. And yes, everyone "reasoning" to defend Elon is a Nazi. If you don't like being called a Nazi, fucking stop doing Nazi things...

    Edit:

    Also, for context, this:

    "**Elon Musk: A Hitler Salute Is a Hitler Salute Is a Hitler Salute**
    Elon Musk raises his right arm, and everyone jumps over it. Welcome to the new regime of attention.

    *A Commentary by Lenz Jacobsen*
    **January 21, 2025, 2:36 PM**

    Let’s not make this unnecessarily complicated from the outset. When someone on a political stage, during a political speech, before a partially far-right audience, repeatedly and emphatically raises their right arm at an angle, they are performing the Hitler salute. There’s no need for "allegedly," "similar to," or "controversial." The gesture speaks for itself; it’s documented on video. Those who want to reinterpret it, those who refuse to see the Hitler salute, do so at their own discretion. For example, anyone now claiming to recognize an ancient "Roman salute" as some sort of Musk reference is merely demonstrating their willingness to conveniently reinterpret events.

    Elon Musk extended his right arm and let everyone jump over it – the ultimate bait. This is how, on the day of Donald Trump’s second inauguration, not only does his presidency formally begin, but the associated regime of attention becomes as visible as ever.

    ### It’s All About Attention
    That’s what it’s about: attention. It’s the most contested resource in a world where, theoretically, every snippet, image, video, and quote competes for attention every second. Trump and Musk are masters of this competition, primarily because they know how to use even negative attention to their advantage. Case in point: the Hitler salute.

    What happens next is predictable: neo-Nazis and far-right extremists will interpret the outstretched right arm as a gesture of solidarity and encouragement. Moderate, sympathetic supporters will see it as an overzealous celebratory gesture. And everyone else faces an impossible choice: either ignore the breach of taboo, thereby contributing to its normalization, or mark it as a breach of taboo, generating the outrage that the other side thrives on and uses to bolster itself.

    You can lament it, but you must accept that, for a significant portion of humanity, calling out the Hitler salute may now simply be dismissed as virtue signaling.

    These are the rules of the game of attention that has been unfolding since at least 2016, and the winners seem as predetermined as the helpless losers.

    ### The Media's Role in the Attention Game
    Journalism, too, faces this choice between acknowledging and ignoring such events. It plays the attention game; indeed, the media is the natural arena for this contest. This very text could be read as evidence of a certain helplessness. So far, no better solution is in sight than distinguishing between small provocations and major transgressions like the Hitler salute and, at the very least, attempting to expose the mechanics of the game while participating in it.

    ### Noble but Helpless
    Political gestures and statements function like all other stimuli humans are exposed to: they have less impact the second time around and even less the third time. Humans are adaptive creatures. Habituation is one of the few constants of human existence, which is why calls to "never get used to" political atrocities, while noble, are ultimately futile.

    The political return on their victories in the attention game for Trump and Musk lies not only in the public’s habituation to their specific positions and style but also in their broader control over what people get used to. They wield the greatest power over the so-called "Overton Window" of acceptable discourse.

    ### The Overton Window in 2025
    Thirty years ago, political scientist Joseph Overton developed the concept of the "Overton Window." It categorizes political views into those that are popular, sensible, and just barely acceptable, which fall within the window, and those that are radical or unthinkable, which lie outside it. Overton argued that politics is ultimately conducted within this window, and anyone seeking real change must shift the entire window.

    This is exactly what has been happening for years. Until, finally, in January 2025, at the far-right edge of the window of political acceptability, the Hitler salute comes into view."

    Translation done by GPT, but seems fairly accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    You can't just expect people shift away from Twitter in a day. You're talking about companies that have their communication networks based on Twitter. Some companies run their customer support through Twitter. It's not fair for a subreddit to demand everyone who visits it's subreddit to not use Twitter, that's just ridiculous. Ridiculous as any sort of purity test.
    Really? Have you taken a look at reddit lately?

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  14. #7314
    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    You can't just expect people shift away from Twitter in a day. You're talking about companies that have their communication networks based on Twitter. Some companies run their customer support through Twitter. It's not fair for a subreddit to demand everyone who visits it's subreddit to not use Twitter, that's just ridiculous. Ridiculous as any sort of purity test.
    I mean, hasn't he owned Twitter for a while now? And he's been pretty infamous for a while now too for being uncomfortably close to racism, neo-nazism and fascism and what not. Either you're okay with his behavior over these last few years or you're a hypocrite. Companies have had years to de-couple themselves from Twitter and private persons have even less of an excuse in my view. I think the uncomfortable truth here is that many people don't really care, and it's mostly performative for those who claim to care but still stick around and/or it's about money.
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    So let's talk about what's going on with Elon Musk.

    Is he a Nazi? The short answer is yes. The longer answer is that he's part of the 4chan alt right movement of Nazis, they're openly Nazi in their beliefs on 4chan, posting their joy at minorities and LGBTQ people suffering. They talk about the day of the "Great Awakening" when society will finally be ruled by "Common sense" and all nations will be separated by ethnicity. They invent esoteric antisemitic words like "Goyslop" to serve as their dog whistles, and these people have been dog whistling for the last 20 years.

    It's all hidden behind irony. "No guys, you don't understand, I don't ACTUALLY believe those things, I'm not ACTUALLY a Nazi, I'm just being ironic and JOKING. *Turns around and winks at all of his friends several times* We only say Nazi things to make the libs mad, to own the libs, and you got owned hahaha!"

    These people hide their beliefs behind multiple layers of irony and plausible deniability, but when it comes down to it they want people in gas chambers. They will continue to deny and deflect until the moment people are in camps and being killed en masse. That will be the moment when they take off the mask and go "Haha, I fooled you, this WHOLE TIME I really was a Nazi who hated your guts, who wanted you dead, but I couldn't be open about it because I would lose my place in society if I did! How does it feel to be the outcast now huh?"

    They are mostly eternally aggrieved white straight cis men and some women. They believe themselves oppressed by the liberal society and want to replace it with their fascistic vision for the world. If you read 4chan /pol/ long enough this is all EXTREMELY apparent and obvious, and they won't fool anyone (assuming you can take the absolute idiocy of /pol/ for more than 5 minutes).

    Elon is a fucking Nazi, and he's no longer dog whistling it to his edgy ironic Nazi 4chan poster whom he seeks validation from. He's blowing the bullhorn.
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  16. #7316
    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post


    So let's talk about what's going on with Elon Musk.

    Is he a Nazi? The short answer is yes. The longer answer is that he's part of the 4chan alt right movement of Nazis, they're openly Nazi in their beliefs on 4chan, posting their joy at minorities and LGBTQ people suffering. They talk about the day of the "Great Awakening" when society will finally be ruled by "Common sense" and all nations will be separated by ethnicity. They invent esoteric antisemitic words like "Goyslop" to serve as their dog whistles, and these people have been dog whistling for the last 20 years.

    It's all hidden behind irony. "No guys, you don't understand, I don't ACTUALLY believe those things, I'm not ACTUALLY a Nazi, I'm just being ironic and JOKING. *Turns around and winks at all of his friends several times* We only say Nazi things to make the libs mad, to own the libs, and you got owned hahaha!"

    These people hide their beliefs behind multiple layers of irony and plausible deniability, but when it comes down to it they want people in gas chambers. They will continue to deny and deflect until the moment people are in camps and being killed en masse. That will be the moment when they take off the mask and go "Haha, I fooled you, this WHOLE TIME I really was a Nazi who hated your guts, who wanted you dead, but I couldn't be open about it because I would lose my place in society if I did! How does it feel to be the outcast now huh?"

    They are mostly eternally aggrieved white straight cis men and some women. They believe themselves oppressed by the liberal society and want to replace it with their fascistic vision for the world. If you read 4chan /pol/ long enough this is all EXTREMELY apparent and obvious, and they won't fool anyone (assuming you can take the absolute idiocy of /pol/ for more than 5 minutes).

    Elon is a fucking Nazi, and he's no longer dog whistling it to his edgy ironic Nazi 4chan poster whom he seeks validation from. He's blowing the bullhorn.
    4chan represents the ultimate instance of Poe's Law in action.

    The racism/homophobia/transphobia/misog... (okay the last one was always there), started out as ironic memes way back in the day. Then everyone stayed in character long enough for the actual nazis to think they had found a cool place and take over the place. That and generous helping of paid trolls from Russia ofc.

    /pol/ is a special place because it started out as a containment board for all the retards who thought 4chan was a place for racism/homophobia/transphobia, but concentrating the morons in single place also raised a huge landmark for all the rest of the nazis to rally around.

    Now, /pol/ is too large to shut down without all the users infesting some other place. Plus it is useful honeypot for all the alphabet agencies to identify and locate all the worst scum by their IP addresses.

    But yeah, Elon is a Nazi, and I wouldn't be surprised if he actually browses /pol/ and intentionally tries to appeal to the other Nazis there.

    Either that or /pol/ humor has become so widespread already, that he sees it on Xitter.

  17. #7317
    Here's the important thing to note:

    Is he a nazi? Let's say for the sake of argument that he is not.
    Is he far right? Hell yes he is, 100%. He doesn't spew far right ideology and support far right movements around the world on accident.
    So what fucking difference does it make?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    You know... normalizing the Nazi salute Elon did by using out of context still photos that are almost as quickly debunked as you watch a video of them, I could only imagine Nazi sympathizers doing that. Are you one of those?
    I'm no more a Nazi sympathiser than Emmanuel Macron. Video inc...

    “Did anyone accuse President Macron of being a Nazi?”

    https://www.republicworld.com/world-...resident-rally

    https://x.com/amuse/status/1882559909130101165

    But gotta be careful next time I hail a London cab I suppose, the lefty Nazi hunters will be after me.
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  19. #7319
    Getting off twitter is possible,
    Even for governments.

    X-odus: District of North Vancouver leaves X, other Metro cities considering

    X.com no longer aligns with our corporate values,' says the District of North Vancouver.

    The District of North Vancouver has deactivated its X account, while other Metro Vancouver cities are mulling doing the same, following concerns about misinformation and far-right extremism on the platform and owner Elon Musk’s Nazi-like hand salute at U.S. President Donald Trump’s inauguration.
    As with anything, its just about ripping off that little swastika-decorated band-aid.
    It's not a problem if you don't look up.

  20. #7320
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    I'm no more a Nazi sympathiser than Emmanuel Macron. Video inc...

    “Did anyone accuse President Macron of being a Nazi?”

    https://www.republicworld.com/world-...resident-rally

    https://x.com/amuse/status/1882559909130101165

    But gotta be careful next time I hail a London cab I suppose, the lefty Nazi hunters will be after me.
    This is not a nazi salute:

    https://www.alamy.com/an-adult-femal...274242589.html

    Now if you weren't a nazi you wouldn't grasp at such straws.
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