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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    This is not a nazi salute:

    https://www.alamy.com/an-adult-femal...274242589.html

    Now if you weren't a nazi you wouldn't grasp at such straws.
    It's not a nazi salute, they just grasp a head height straws! /s

    Bad as my country is, at least we jail people for this kind of stuff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    I'm no more a Nazi sympathiser than Emmanuel Macron. Video inc...

    “Did anyone accuse President Macron of being a Nazi?”

    https://www.republicworld.com/world-...resident-rally

    https://x.com/amuse/status/1882559909130101165

    But gotta be careful next time I hail a London cab I suppose, the lefty Nazi hunters will be after me.
    Macron isn't a Nazi, Musk is, and you know it, fucking coward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    It's not a nazi salute, they just grasp a head height straws! /s

    Bad as my country is, at least we jail people for this kind of stuff...
    Wasn't one of them just invited to form a government?

  4. #7324
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    I'm no more a Nazi sympathiser than Emmanuel Macron. Video inc...

    “Did anyone accuse President Macron of being a Nazi?”

    https://www.republicworld.com/world-...resident-rally

    https://x.com/amuse/status/1882559909130101165

    But gotta be careful next time I hail a London cab I suppose, the lefty Nazi hunters will be after me.
    So you admit it's only the left that goes after nazi's these days, as the right has fully embraced their ideology. Nice of you to self own like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    I'm no more a Nazi sympathiser than Emmanuel Macron. Video inc...

    “Did anyone accuse President Macron of being a Nazi?”

    https://www.republicworld.com/world-...resident-rally

    https://x.com/amuse/status/1882559909130101165

    But gotta be careful next time I hail a London cab I suppose, the lefty Nazi hunters will be after me.
    When wave down a cab, my gesture is to extend my arm, fist closed, index finger pointing out. Its a pretty common cab calling gesture.

    Some put their hand with all fingers extended out, and yeah, it certainly can look like a Nazi salute if a picture is taken, without a video to see the whole motion.

    Which is why when pictures were posted of Democrats having their hand in the air, the response was to ask for the videos. A nazi salute is a whole motion, not just the last part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathandira View Post
    When wave down a cab, my gesture is to extend my arm, fist closed, index finger pointing out. Its a pretty common cab calling gesture.

    Some put their hand with all fingers extended out, and yeah, it certainly can look like a Nazi salute if a picture is taken, without a video to see the whole motion.

    Which is why when pictures were posted of Democrats having their hand in the air, the response was to ask for the videos. A nazi salute is a whole motion, not just the last part.
    Furthermore, when people extend their hand to a crowd, they typically do the fingers seperated wave. They don't do the literal fucking nazi salute, which is totally different (all fingers firmly held together). It's unmistakable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    Furthermore, when people extend their hand to a crowd, they typically do the fingers seperated wave. They don't do the literal fucking nazi salute, which is totally different (all fingers firmly held together). It's unmistakable.
    I think it's important and the video shows it he does it with a deep passion he grunts while doing the Nazi salute then does it again then he triples down by talking about "seizing the future". If someone defends this that's a pretty big indication that they are a Neo Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer. It's literally people telling you not to believe your eyes and ears Orwellian levels of denial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    I'm no more a Nazi sympathiser than Emmanuel Macron. Video inc...

    “Did anyone accuse President Macron of being a Nazi?”

    https://www.republicworld.com/world-...resident-rally

    https://x.com/amuse/status/1882559909130101165

    But gotta be careful next time I hail a London cab I suppose, the lefty Nazi hunters will be after me.
    Right, I've come to my own conclusions. As usual, you have no shame or shred of morality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    I'm no more a Nazi sympathiser ...
    Really?
    your support for the release of locked up nazi's, pushed for by Elon Musk in the Brexit thread would provide evidence to the contrary.
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    The video of macron doing a "nazi salute" is the reason we need to focus less on Musk doing the actual nazi salute and more on how he pushes the nazi narrative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    The video of macron doing a "nazi salute" is the reason we need to focus less on Musk doing the actual nazi salute and more on how he pushes the nazi narrative.
    As if these people would understand THAT, when they don't even understand the fact that Musk did a Nazi salute. (yes, the "fact")
    The ones that saw this already know he has been pushing it, because if he wouldn't have, even WE wouldn't have seen it as a Nazi salute but a weird gesture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    The video of macron doing a "nazi salute" is the reason we need to focus less on Musk doing the actual nazi salute and more on how he pushes the nazi narrative.
    It's all deflection. And by deflecting, they admit they know Musk did a Nazi salute, and that they support him doing that Nazi salute enough that they'll play defense.

    It's never "oh, it was this other gesture that actually makes sense and it's being misrepresented". They tried that early on, and it fell apart, because it's very obviously a Nazi salute. So now it's lying about still images of other people raising their hand and trying to claim those were the same thing. When they obviously aren't. The purpose isn't to convince, it's to get the discussion off "Musk is a Nazi" and onto defending those others.

    Fuck that. Musk's a goddamned Nazi. And those supporting or defending him are, by extension of that fact, also Nazis. That's the simple truth. Quibbling over details is just an attempt to deflect from the central truth.

    Especially when it's coming from the same Nazi mouths who'd complain about George Soros or whatever.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    As if these people would understand THAT, when they don't even understand the fact that Musk did a Nazi salute. (yes, the "fact")
    The ones that saw this already know he has been pushing it, because if he wouldn't have, even WE wouldn't have seen it as a Nazi salute but a weird gesture.
    In that case there's no reason to address it at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    It's all deflection. And by deflecting, they admit they know Musk did a Nazi salute, and that they support him doing that Nazi salute enough that they'll play defense.

    It's never "oh, it was this other gesture that actually makes sense and it's being misrepresented". They tried that early on, and it fell apart, because it's very obviously a Nazi salute. So now it's lying about still images of other people raising their hand and trying to claim those were the same thing. When they obviously aren't. The purpose isn't to convince, it's to get the discussion off "Musk is a Nazi" and onto defending those others.

    Fuck that. Musk's a goddamned Nazi. And those supporting or defending him are, by extension of that fact, also Nazis. That's the simple truth. Quibbling over details is just an attempt to deflect from the central truth.

    Especially when it's coming from the same Nazi mouths who'd complain about George Soros or whatever.
    I know all that. But just focusing on the gesture itself is what allows them to just keep deflecting by posting out of context photos and videos of democrats and others doing a similar gesture. The gesture isn't what makes a Ol Musky a nazi. It's everything he's been saying over the last few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    The video of macron doing a "nazi salute" is the reason we need to focus less on Musk doing the actual nazi salute and more on how he pushes the nazi narrative.
    The people pushing that shit don't care. They know it's not what they claim. They know they're lying. They don't care about that.

    This is why I keep reminding people

    He unbanned all the Nazis after buying Twitter

    He spent the past year+ retweeting and responding to/signal boosting nazi accounts and nazi propaganda

    Stans extreme racist/fascist Tommy Robinson in the UK

    Meets with the AfD extremist party (basically nazis) in Germany and is promoting them

    Did the Nazi salute multiple times, too.

    Continues to make jokes about Nazis rather than clearly saying "Nazis suck, fuck Nazis" and putting this all behind him which is literally the easiest thing to do in the world

    Is it any surprise he's the child of a white emerald mine owner in Apartheid South Africa? No, not at all. He very much seems to hold all those same racist, white supremacist views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    In that case there's no reason to address it at all.
    Technically there isn't, because these people are incapable of admiting they have been wrong about something.
    But you'd think that him doing *the* salute would open some eyes.
    What we are doing here is basically not allowing these bullshitters to have a claim that it is anything but a Nazi salute, it's less important on this forum, but more important in the media, so that they don't start giving the benefit of the doubt - so that even the media-illiterates understand that he is a Nazi.
    Because they for sure won't understand it if you explain his policies and opinions to them.

    edit:
    either way, we should/can of course also quote what he has been doing and saying as well.
    It's the same deal however, it won't convince the die-hard idiots and these comments will be deflected as well.
    It's the same with Donald Trump and his policies, numbers unrelated to whatever he is (not) doing will yield a plus or minus due to sheer unrelated effects and they will give credit to Donald Trump.

    Take the egg prices for example. Right now it's "give him some time - this is the aftereffect of Biden's" - then they go down because the bird-flu is getting handled over time (no matter how well or poorly) and these people will credit Trump for getting it back on track again, even though it's gonna be a natural development due to some people in the "regime" still maintaining basic functions because they aren't complete idiots.
    etc. etc.
    Last edited by KrayZ33; 2025-01-24 at 06:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    Technically there isn't, because these people are incapable of admiting they have been wrong about something.
    But you'd think that him doing *the* salute would open some eyes.
    What we are doing here is basically not allowing these bullshitters to have a claim that it is anything but a Nazi salute, it's less important on this forum, but more important in the media, so that they don't start giving the benefit of the doubt - so that even the media-illiterates understand that he is a Nazi.
    Because they for sure won't understand it if you explain his policies and opinions to them.
    And they will continue to claim it wasn't a nazi salute...and you will get nowhere. It's an endless game of "No, he isn't"/"Yes, he is"

    I'm not trying to convince them that Elon is a Nazi. I'm trying to show everyone else that is still somehow on the fence about it.
    Last edited by Evil Midnight Bomber; 2025-01-24 at 07:01 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    And they will continue to claim it wasn't a nazi salute...and you will get nowhere. It's an endless game of "No, he isn't"/"Yes, he is"

    I'm not trying to convince them that Elon is a Nazi. I'm trying to show everyone else that is still somehow on the fence about it.
    Right, but part of convincing fence-sitters is making the case that all those defenders are also Nazis.

    Just to make the point that attacking those defending Musk isn't about convincing them so they stop defending him, it's about painting them as Nazis alongside him. Because only a Nazi would defend a Nazi like that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Right, but part of convincing fence-sitters is making the case that all those defenders are also Nazis.
    Right. but that takes more than just repeating "he made a nazi salute" over and over again. I am saying look at everything else he's said and done over the last few years. That's what shows he is a nazi. That he made a nazi salute is just the icing.

    Just to make the point that attacking those defending Musk isn't about convincing them so they stop defending him, it's about painting them as Nazis alongside him. Because only a Nazi would defend a Nazi like that.
    And they don't care as long as they can keep muddying the waters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    I'm no more a Nazi sympathiser than Emmanuel Macron. Video inc...

    “Did anyone accuse President Macron of being a Nazi?”

    https://www.republicworld.com/world-...resident-rally

    https://x.com/amuse/status/1882559909130101165

    But gotta be careful next time I hail a London cab I suppose, the lefty Nazi hunters will be after me.
    Is Macron going around praising groups like the far-right AfD? Does he have a history of siding or otherwise denigrating minorities? Because Musk sure the has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    4chan represents the ultimate instance of Poe's Law in action.

    The racism/homophobia/transphobia/misog... (okay the last one was always there), started out as ironic memes way back in the day. Then everyone stayed in character long enough for the actual nazis to think they had found a cool place and take over the place. That and generous helping of paid trolls from Russia ofc.

    /pol/ is a special place because it started out as a containment board for all the retards who thought 4chan was a place for racism/homophobia/transphobia, but concentrating the morons in single place also raised a huge landmark for all the rest of the nazis to rally around.

    Now, /pol/ is too large to shut down without all the users infesting some other place. Plus it is useful honeypot for all the alphabet agencies to identify and locate all the worst scum by their IP addresses.

    But yeah, Elon is a Nazi, and I wouldn't be surprised if he actually browses /pol/ and intentionally tries to appeal to the other Nazis there.

    Either that or /pol/ humor has become so widespread already, that he sees it on Xitter.
    Adrian Dittman, Elon Musk's known alt account from Twitter, is also on /pol/ and constantly posts his praises of Elon and even seeks validation for him, a very strange thing f or someone else to do for you but not entirely unheard of for superfans I guess.

    Elon's behavior very much suggests 4chan /pol/ Nazi who's masking his Nazism behind layers of irony and plausible deniability, but is also simultaneously the richest man on the planet and has the ear of President Trump because he very likely single handedly got Trump elected through his dissemination of disinfo on the largest social media platforms on earth, plus very likely has a backend access to some of the voting software. People call that cope because they want to hate boner on Democrats, but I definitely believe they should be way more worried about that possibility because if true and not addressed, means Musk gets to appoint basically any president he wants from now on. I find that possibility VERY concerning.

    But for how Trump's presidency is already going, I expect a big swing in the midterms, but if we see Republicans gain in the midterms even after disastrous grocery prices and cut social services and everything else that will inevitably happen with Trump, I think it would be safe to assume at that point that the voting has been compromised.
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