When wave down a cab, my gesture is to extend my arm, fist closed, index finger pointing out. Its a pretty common cab calling gesture.
Some put their hand with all fingers extended out, and yeah, it certainly can look like a Nazi salute if a picture is taken, without a video to see the whole motion.
Which is why when pictures were posted of Democrats having their hand in the air, the response was to ask for the videos. A nazi salute is a whole motion, not just the last part.
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I think it's important and the video shows it he does it with a deep passion he grunts while doing the Nazi salute then does it again then he triples down by talking about "seizing the future". If someone defends this that's a pretty big indication that they are a Neo Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer. It's literally people telling you not to believe your eyes and ears Orwellian levels of denial.
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The video of macron doing a "nazi salute" is the reason we need to focus less on Musk doing the actual nazi salute and more on how he pushes the nazi narrative.
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As if these people would understand THAT, when they don't even understand the fact that Musk did a Nazi salute. (yes, the "fact")
The ones that saw this already know he has been pushing it, because if he wouldn't have, even WE wouldn't have seen it as a Nazi salute but a weird gesture.
It's all deflection. And by deflecting, they admit they know Musk did a Nazi salute, and that they support him doing that Nazi salute enough that they'll play defense.
It's never "oh, it was this other gesture that actually makes sense and it's being misrepresented". They tried that early on, and it fell apart, because it's very obviously a Nazi salute. So now it's lying about still images of other people raising their hand and trying to claim those were the same thing. When they obviously aren't. The purpose isn't to convince, it's to get the discussion off "Musk is a Nazi" and onto defending those others.
Fuck that. Musk's a goddamned Nazi. And those supporting or defending him are, by extension of that fact, also Nazis. That's the simple truth. Quibbling over details is just an attempt to deflect from the central truth.
Especially when it's coming from the same Nazi mouths who'd complain about George Soros or whatever.
In that case there's no reason to address it at all.
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I know all that. But just focusing on the gesture itself is what allows them to just keep deflecting by posting out of context photos and videos of democrats and others doing a similar gesture. The gesture isn't what makes a Ol Musky a nazi. It's everything he's been saying over the last few years.
On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
- H. L. Mencken
The people pushing that shit don't care. They know it's not what they claim. They know they're lying. They don't care about that.
This is why I keep reminding people
He unbanned all the Nazis after buying Twitter
He spent the past year+ retweeting and responding to/signal boosting nazi accounts and nazi propaganda
Stans extreme racist/fascist Tommy Robinson in the UK
Meets with the AfD extremist party (basically nazis) in Germany and is promoting them
Did the Nazi salute multiple times, too.
Continues to make jokes about Nazis rather than clearly saying "Nazis suck, fuck Nazis" and putting this all behind him which is literally the easiest thing to do in the world
Is it any surprise he's the child of a white emerald mine owner in Apartheid South Africa? No, not at all. He very much seems to hold all those same racist, white supremacist views.
Technically there isn't, because these people are incapable of admiting they have been wrong about something.
But you'd think that him doing *the* salute would open some eyes.
What we are doing here is basically not allowing these bullshitters to have a claim that it is anything but a Nazi salute, it's less important on this forum, but more important in the media, so that they don't start giving the benefit of the doubt - so that even the media-illiterates understand that he is a Nazi.
Because they for sure won't understand it if you explain his policies and opinions to them.
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either way, we should/can of course also quote what he has been doing and saying as well.
It's the same deal however, it won't convince the die-hard idiots and these comments will be deflected as well.
It's the same with Donald Trump and his policies, numbers unrelated to whatever he is (not) doing will yield a plus or minus due to sheer unrelated effects and they will give credit to Donald Trump.
Take the egg prices for example. Right now it's "give him some time - this is the aftereffect of Biden's" - then they go down because the bird-flu is getting handled over time (no matter how well or poorly) and these people will credit Trump for getting it back on track again, even though it's gonna be a natural development due to some people in the "regime" still maintaining basic functions because they aren't complete idiots.
etc. etc.
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On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
- H. L. Mencken
Right, but part of convincing fence-sitters is making the case that all those defenders are also Nazis.
Just to make the point that attacking those defending Musk isn't about convincing them so they stop defending him, it's about painting them as Nazis alongside him. Because only a Nazi would defend a Nazi like that.
Right. but that takes more than just repeating "he made a nazi salute" over and over again. I am saying look at everything else he's said and done over the last few years. That's what shows he is a nazi. That he made a nazi salute is just the icing.
And they don't care as long as they can keep muddying the waters.Just to make the point that attacking those defending Musk isn't about convincing them so they stop defending him, it's about painting them as Nazis alongside him. Because only a Nazi would defend a Nazi like that.
On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
- H. L. Mencken
Adrian Dittman, Elon Musk's known alt account from Twitter, is also on /pol/ and constantly posts his praises of Elon and even seeks validation for him, a very strange thing f or someone else to do for you but not entirely unheard of for superfans I guess.
Elon's behavior very much suggests 4chan /pol/ Nazi who's masking his Nazism behind layers of irony and plausible deniability, but is also simultaneously the richest man on the planet and has the ear of President Trump because he very likely single handedly got Trump elected through his dissemination of disinfo on the largest social media platforms on earth, plus very likely has a backend access to some of the voting software. People call that cope because they want to hate boner on Democrats, but I definitely believe they should be way more worried about that possibility because if true and not addressed, means Musk gets to appoint basically any president he wants from now on. I find that possibility VERY concerning.
But for how Trump's presidency is already going, I expect a big swing in the midterms, but if we see Republicans gain in the midterms even after disastrous grocery prices and cut social services and everything else that will inevitably happen with Trump, I think it would be safe to assume at that point that the voting has been compromised.
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