Probably more alarming should be that he also said "It's good to be proud of German culture, German values, and not to lose that in some sort of multiculturalism that dilutes everything."
Probably more alarming should be that he also said "It's good to be proud of German culture, German values, and not to lose that in some sort of multiculturalism that dilutes everything."
"But neither can I reject the possibility that the gesture — clasping his right hand to his chest and then throwing it out to the crowd — was an awkward attempt to embody what he said next: “My heart goes out to you.”
The only thing I despise more than neo-nazi's are cunts who make excuses for them. Fuck every single person who is trying to downplay this.
From what I understand the people how plastered the image wont get in trouble either. My takeaway is how much the US tolerates Nazis and talking points that stemmed for that ideology even if just socially. How many US politicans regularly spout Nazi talking points? How many have to take a trip to a Holocaust musemum in their old ass age to finally "get it" only to forget lessons learned 6 months later? How many elected officials and pundents defended Musk's "roman salute"? Would Musk even be allowed to still enjoy all the government handouts he receives in any other country if he pulled his shit there? Not to change subjects too much but in another thread its been pointed out people will get blackballed for saying their support certain movements in the US, wearing kufiya in some places can get you fucked up, but Neo-Nazis are protected and can drap swatiskas over highways, you can parrot shit straight out of 1930s Germany without consequence but wear a pendant from your homeland and get lcensured in Congress. The US has a particularly hight tolerance for Nazis and Nazi rhetoric even from elected officials.
Did... he just admit to doing a Nazi salute on Twitter? That's funny...
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Funny thing, mentally retarded people were sent to take "showers", too. Why do people cheer Nazis on if they would be pretty much at the top of the list for death camps under Nazi rule? I'll never get that.
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There's subsections of almost every group that supports Nazis and will, for some reason, support said Nazis thinking "They'd never come for ME, I'm one of the good ones!" And we all know how that ends when nobody stands up and Nazis get a blank check to do what they want.
We know why Elon Musk is a Nazi though, and not just his more recent overt Nazism. The signs have always been there. He's a breeder, he has an obsession with the preservation of "humanity", or more accurately, he has an obsession with the proliferation of his own genes. He's one of those weirdos who's absolutely obsessed with his "legacy", it's why he's constantly trying to talk about getting to Mars and having 14 kids with 5 different women or whatever it is now.
“Terrible things are happening outside. Poor helpless people are being dragged out of their homes. Families are torn apart. Men, women, and children are separated. Children come home from school to find that their parents have disappeared.”
Diary of Anne Frank
January 13, 1943
Schwarzenegger had Nazi parents and other Nazis around him during his childhood, but he called it a loser ideology, citing that in history they always eventually lose. He might not have the best politics but at least he knew fascism is an ideological dead end.
Elon's hard swing from left to right started when his daughter came out as trans and a lot of the early radicalization from him was ranting about "sterilization" of trans people. He's a breeder, obsessed with the continuation of his genetics and their purity, and genetic purity is one of the cornerstones of Nazi ideology. It's one of the reasons LGBTQ people were among the first into camps in Nazi Germany, they were seen as genetic defects along with disabled people, unworthy of existing among the general populace.
“Terrible things are happening outside. Poor helpless people are being dragged out of their homes. Families are torn apart. Men, women, and children are separated. Children come home from school to find that their parents have disappeared.”
Diary of Anne Frank
January 13, 1943
“You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it.”― Malcolm X
I watch them fight and die in the name of freedom. They speak of liberty and justice, but for whom? -Ratonhnhaké:ton (Connor Kenway)
Like the article's writer lays out, I think the evidence is weak that he's a Nazi. I'm also really having a hard time believing people actually are making this case in good faith. It sounds more like trolling on the internet, a kind of permutation of "Fuck Trump" into "mask-slip he's got actual nazis on the inauguration podium." Shriek at the bad men and call them evil, and everything following proves the hypothesis.
Now, in spite of this reeking of in-group performance, specifically performative outrage, I am open to being convinced that people really do believe Elon Musk is an actually Nazi intending to show his fans a Nazi salute (and being understood by them to have done it).
"I wish it need not have happened in my time." "So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
No, you're not. You're not open to that at all. As can be seen by how you're denying he gave a Nazi salute. Germany knows it was a Nazi salute, and has to censor it being shown. Not to mention the overt support Musk has given to many Nazi-adjacent movements like the AfD. Or the many Nazi-type things he's ideologically supported for the past few years. You're ignoring all of that, because you don't want to believe he's a Nazi. You're denying what's right in front of your face, for ideological reasons alone.
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Like, it's not a matter of evidence on that point.
He objectively is a rapist. It's a statement of determinable fact, not an opinion. Not unless you want to get into "maybe we're all brains in vats and reality is just a simulation" level navel-gazing, which is useless as fuck; that would just means he's a simulation of a rapist, and that's as "real" as the Sun itself, or the floor beneath your feet.
I'm just sayin...
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- H. L. Mencken
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Words to live by.
“Terrible things are happening outside. Poor helpless people are being dragged out of their homes. Families are torn apart. Men, women, and children are separated. Children come home from school to find that their parents have disappeared.”
Diary of Anne Frank
January 13, 1943
I don't necessarily think he's actually a Nazi (I'm not sure he's particularly ideological at all), but I do think he intentionally did a 'sieg heil' salute. It's been pretty clear that he's been trying to appeal to the right/far right (including calling replacement theory "the actual truth"), particularly since riiiiiight before sexual harassment allegations about him came out (toooootallly a coincidence), so I think he was mostly just meme-ing for "the lulz" or whatever- not that it makes it any better.
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-Louis Brandeis
“Terrible things are happening outside. Poor helpless people are being dragged out of their homes. Families are torn apart. Men, women, and children are separated. Children come home from school to find that their parents have disappeared.”
Diary of Anne Frank
January 13, 1943