Elon Musk Buys Twitter

[KrayZ33]

Seems not everyone is fine with it being noramlized: https://anglican.ink/2025/01/29/calv...tical-actions/

Dude lost his license at least. Interestingly even an organization that believes in some made up friends in the heavens is aware that it does not really matter "what he had in his heart" as a nazi salute is a nazi salute is a nazi salute.

Great news.

But not enough imho. They did what they could as an organization, but we as people shouldn't leave it at just that.
I'd reckon the repeated use of rod shaped lumber, directed with adequate momentum towards his cranium, should suffice. My heart goes out to him and I hope he'll get better.

Just saying.

[Ivanstone]

Once you're a soldier on the battlefield (or a war criminal running a death camp), motives are irrelevant.

A lot of German soldiers died because they were told their country was doing the right thing.

War criminals running a death camp certainly have a motive. It can be assumed its a shitty motive because they made a choice to be in charge.

[PhaelixWW]

A lot of German soldiers died because they were told their country was doing the right thing.

The German people knew what the Nazi party stood for before the war ever started. Nobody in a Nazi uniform was fooled into thinking they were doing the right thing unless they thought the right thing was genocide.

That applies even more today.

[Ivanstone]

The German people knew what the Nazi party stood for before the war ever started. Nobody in a Nazi uniform was fooled into thinking they were doing the right thing unless they thought the right thing was genocide.

That applies even more today.

They did not actually. They knew they were shitheads but they had no reason to think that France, Britain or Russia was any better. The actual depth of their evil wasn't known until later.

Our information is somewhat better today but obviously a lot of people get misled anyways.

[Timester]

They did not actually. They knew they were shitheads but they had no reason to think that France, Britain or Russia was any better. The actual depth of their evil wasn't known until later.

It was on Mein Kampf, it was on the propaganda during the early 1930s, it was on the streets with the paramilitary groups attacking jews. They knew exactly what the Nazi party was even before 1933 to the point that ONLY the Great Depression led to people voting on them and not even majority.

[Ivanstone]

It was on Mein Kampf, it was on the propaganda during the early 1930s, it was on the streets with the paramilitary groups attacking jews. They knew exactly what the Nazi party was even before 1933 to the point that ONLY the Great Depression led to people voting on them and not even majority.

They were virulent anti-semites but they also ran on fixing the economy. One thing they did not run on was industrialized genocide.

Meanwhile the British Empire was shitty for centuries. Also they just kicked Germany’s ass in a war. Even worse they unleashed Canadians on their troops.
The French Empire was also shitty and they’ve been shitty to the Germans for centuries. Also they just kicked Germany’s ass in a war.
Russia was in the throes of committing mass genocide at the time. Also they just kicked Germany’s ass in a war. Also the Nazis worst ideas came from Russia.

It would be fucking swell if people didn’t succumb to malicious propaganda but life is hard. If we can discern people’s motives we can determine who deserves a leopard face eating and who needs to be merely threatened with a leopard face eating.

[Timester]

They were virulent anti-semites but they also ran on fixing the economy. One thing they did not run on was industrialized genocide.

Meanwhile the British Empire was shitty for centuries. Also they just kicked Germany’s ass in a war. Even worse they unleashed Canadians on their troops.
The French Empire was also shitty and they’ve been shitty to the Germans for centuries. Also they just kicked Germany’s ass in a war.
Russia was in the throes of committing mass genocide at the time. Also they just kicked Germany’s ass in a war. Also the Nazis worst ideas came from Russia.

It would be fucking swell if people didn’t succumb to malicious propaganda but life is hard. If we can discern people’s motives we can determine who deserves a leopard face eating and who needs to be merely threatened with a leopard face eating.

That's historically and factually wrong. It was the Great Depression that led people in voting the Nazi Party, not the British or French. And even Hitler was picked as chancellor with just 33.1% on the 1933 election, before that it was a fringe party that believed on crazy shit. People knew about it and talked all the time.

For example, Einstein and "Not Yet Hanged".

People didn't fell into malicious propaganda.

[draynay]

They were virulent anti-semites but they also ran on fixing the economy. One thing they did not run on was industrialized genocide.

Meanwhile the British Empire was shitty for centuries. Also they just kicked Germany’s ass in a war. Even worse they unleashed Canadians on their troops.
The French Empire was also shitty and they’ve been shitty to the Germans for centuries. Also they just kicked Germany’s ass in a war.
Russia was in the throes of committing mass genocide at the time. Also they just kicked Germany’s ass in a war. Also the Nazis worst ideas came from Russia.

It would be fucking swell if people didn’t succumb to malicious propaganda but life is hard. If we can discern people’s motives we can determine who deserves a leopard face eating and who needs to be merely threatened with a leopard face eating.

What kind of unhinged nazi sympathizing rant is this?

[PfeffermintShake]

What kind of unhinged nazi sympathizing rant is this?

Leftists-Contributing-To-The-Disinformation-In-Their-Own-Way is a thread that needs to happen. It will also be shit show.

[Polgara]

They were virulent anti-semites but they also ran on fixing the economy. One thing they did not run on was industrialized genocide.

Meanwhile the British Empire was shitty for centuries. Also they just kicked Germany’s ass in a war. Even worse they unleashed Canadians on their troops.
The French Empire was also shitty and they’ve been shitty to the Germans for centuries. Also they just kicked Germany’s ass in a war.
Russia was in the throes of committing mass genocide at the time. Also they just kicked Germany’s ass in a war. Also the Nazis worst ideas came from Russia.

It would be fucking swell if people didn’t succumb to malicious propaganda but life is hard. If we can discern people’s motives we can determine who deserves a leopard face eating and who needs to be merely threatened with a leopard face eating.

Fuck off.

I see nothing more than a person who can sympathise with joining an evil group that has no quarrels with remorseless murder and would do it if their existence required it.

I wouldn't, I've been a sex worker as well as homeless, I also have a child and I STILL couldn't imagine any scenario where my life is so hard that signing up for a KNOWN violent entity bent on racial and ethnic cleansing is a morally grey decision. It's black, flat out. Holy fuck I genuinely thought nazism was that fucking line we collectively agreed we wouldn't fucking cross and yet here we are, discussing why people might cross it for VALID reasons!

No better than tehdang.

[Ivanstone]

That's historically and factually wrong. It was the Great Depression that led people in voting the Nazi Party, not the British or French. And even Hitler was picked as chancellor with just 33.1% on the 1933 election, before that it was a fringe party that believed on crazy shit. People knew about it and talked all the time.

For example, Einstein and "Not Yet Hanged".

People didn't fell into malicious propaganda.

The German economy was a dumpster fire after WWI. Do you seriously think the Germans forgot about it? The Great Depression didn’t help anything and it certainly wasn’t caused by the Germans themselves. Not at all shocked that some people bought into their bullshit.

Yeah they do fall for malicious propaganda. All the fucking time and it happens to this day. If it doesn’t work then why does it keep happening?

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Holy fuck I genuinely thought nazism was that fucking line we collectively agreed we wouldn't fucking cross and yet here we are, discussing why people might cross it for VALID reasons!

How did Stalin get into power?
How did Hitler get into power?
How did Hamas get into power?
How did Trump get into power?

Some believed their shittiest parts. Others believed the lie. These two types of people are very different people and shouldn’t be treated the same. The second group can at least be educated. The first group will probably need a healthy dose of MDMA.

[PhaelixWW]

They did not actually. They knew they were shitheads but they had no reason to think that France, Britain or Russia was any better. The actual depth of their evil wasn't known until later.

This is a blatant attempt to sane-wash the Nazi party, and I'm frankly disgusted.

You need to re-read your history books on the long rise of the Nazi party in Germany and its overt themes of "racial purity". Then remind yourself of the countless evils that have been done in the name of "racial purity" throughout the ages. This wasn't some obfuscated aspect of the party, it was a tent-pole belief of Nazism and a tenet of the Third Reich.

And yes, this is also a reminder that Hitler wrote Mein Kampf while in prison for treason after attempting to seize power in Bavaria and ultimately all of Germany. And that manifesto absolutely contains the seeds of his genocidal ideology, a decade before he actually came to rule the country.

[Karreck]

Some believed their shittiest parts. Others believed the lie. These two types of people are very different people and shouldn’t be treated the same. The second group can at least be educated. The first group will probably need a healthy dose of MDMA.

But here's the thing, believing a lie does not excuse a person for supporting Nazism. They still supported Nazis. End of story. Sure, that group could one day see the light, cast off their ignorance, and renounce their former beliefs. But until they do that, they are actively supporting the same evil that the out and proud Nazis are. That makes them Nazis too.

[Cthulhu 2020]

got to love that shit eating grin.
"yes I just did a Nazi salute, what are you going to do about it".

"What are you going to do about it?"

Michigan priest has license revoked by church after mimicking Musk’s [Nazi Salute]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

This is how you fight Nazis, don't give them any quarter. Elon got away with it because he's the richest man on the planet, but nobody should be complacent about anyone who does it.

[Edge-]

"What are you going to do about it?"

Michigan priest has license revoked by church after mimicking Musk’s [Nazi Salute]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

This is how you fight Nazis, don't give them any quarter. Elon got away with it because he's the richest man on the planet, but nobody should be complacent about anyone who does it.

FYI, the chud owned godisageek, the gaming website. The entire staff resigned and will doing something elsewhere, because they're decent peeps and not nazis.

[Ivanstone]

This is a blatant attempt to sane-wash the Nazi party, and I'm frankly disgusted.

You need to re-read your history books on the long rise of the Nazi party in Germany and its overt themes of "racial purity". Then remind yourself of the countless evils that have been done in the name of "racial purity" throughout the ages. This wasn't some obfuscated aspect of the party, it was a tent-pole belief of Nazism and a tenet of the Third Reich.

And yes, this is also a reminder that Hitler wrote Mein Kampf while in prison for treason after attempting to seize power in Bavaria and ultimately all of Germany. And that manifesto absolutely contains the seeds of his genocidal ideology, a decade before he actually came to rule the country.

It isn't. Far Right propaganda is disgusting but combating it does require that you understand why everyone might be tempted by it. Some people are concerned about the price of eggs. Some people will pay more for eggs if it means combating people they hate. Both are Trump supporters but their reasons are different.

Do I? Lots of people had different reasons for electing them. The Nazis had a 25 point plan. How many of those points involved racism? Even during the Weimar years the German economy wasn't flourishing which is why the Nazis continued to grow in size till the Great Depression when they exploded in popularity.

Yes, the Germans shouldn't have believed the Nazis but we need to understand why these things happen.

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Sure, that group could one day see the light, cast off their ignorance, and renounce their former beliefs.

Almost like we can work on this if we understand their motives.

Some people might be beyond reach (cough Elmo cough) but some people are pliable for different reasons.

[Karreck]

Almost like we can work on this if we understand their motives.

Knowing their motivations does not change the fact that they are supporting Nazis in the now. Supporting Nazism makes you a Nazi.

[Cthulhu 2020]

FYI, the chud owned godisageek, the gaming website. The entire staff resigned and will doing something elsewhere, because they're decent peeps and not nazis.

Damn THAT was the guy who ran that website? Good riddance. I'm glad the Gamergate 2.0 chuds are infighting, a lot of people were on board early on when Concord was a flop, but now that Gamergaters are relentlessly harassing devs of KCD2 and AC:S over *Checks notes* optional gay scenes and one overweight NPC, a lot of the people are starting to question if they're on the right side or not.

[Edge-]

Damn THAT was the guy who ran that website? Good riddance. I'm glad the Gamergate 2.0 chuds are infighting, a lot of people were on board early on when Concord was a flop, but now that Gamergaters are relentlessly harassing devs of KCD2 and AC:S over *Checks notes* optional gay scenes and one overweight NPC, a lot of the people are starting to question if they're on the right side or not.

no, owned. he has had basically nothing to do with the day to day. there was another religious gaming website that went more into that nonsense, IIRC GiaG writers didn't really get involved because they're decent peeps.

gamings impact on political discussion is...bad, in general. i mean assmongold was recently talking about how he's pretty sure the holocaust happened. like, you know, around 99% sure it happened.

i do enjoy watching when they turn on each other and can't wait for mark kern to end up in their crosshairs roflmao

[PhaelixWW]

It isn't. Far Right propaganda is disgusting but combating it does require that you understand why everyone might be tempted by it. Some people are concerned about the price of eggs. Some people will pay more for eggs if it means combating people they hate. Both are Trump supporters but their reasons are different.

Do I? Lots of people had different reasons for electing them. The Nazis had a 25 point plan. How many of those points involved racism? Even during the Weimar years the German economy wasn't flourishing which is why the Nazis continued to grow in size till the Great Depression when they exploded in popularity.

Yes, the Germans shouldn't have believed the Nazis but we need to understand why these things happen.

You're willfully attempting to ignore the actual point here.

If Hannibal Lecter ran for office on a platform of legal cannibalism and fiscal responsibility, then anyone voting for him and/or joining his army is tacitly accepting their part in legal cannibalism even if they wanted to claim that their motivation was fiscal responsibility.

You fundamental cannot divorce the two when they're openly housed in a single ideology. And whatever people want to say about a 25 point plan or the price of eggs being their most important issue, they're still ultimately guilty of voting for evil when they vote for evil.

Sure, knowing people's motivations can be useful knowledge, but it's hardly exculpatory. Saying "I didn't care enough about the evil to not vote for evil" is not the absolution you're pretending it is.

You're just being a Nazi apologist here, and like I said, I'm frankly disgusted by it.