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    Since "just ignore that our chosen dictator is a child rapist" isn't working, the GOP playbook is now "just blatantly lie about everything".

    Remember, there was a plea deal that was struck in 2009, way before I was in office, way before Trump was even considering to be in office, way before Pam Bondi was in his office, way before Kash Patel was [FBI] director — 2009, there was a sweetheart plea deal that was made underneath the Obama administration with Epstein. And that sweetheart has not been exposed.
    -Sen. Markwayne Mullin (ANNIE-R-U-OK, R-U-OK, R-U-OK-ANNIE) today on CNN

    It was 2008. The U.S. attorney at the time was a guy named Alex Acosta. He was a Bush appointee. He went on to become President Trump’s secretary of labor. It all took place in 2008.
    -Jake Tapper, to his fucking face

    This is not new information. This is an AP article from 2019. Jake Tapper was objectively correct.

    Sen. Mullin repeated the lie about the timeline adding that the case was sealed in 2009. Um, no, it was unsealed in 2009. Thanks, Obama.

    "If the Epstein files are a big Democrat hoax, why was it sealed by a Republican, unsealed by Democrats, and why are Republicans lying about it?"

    I believe this is called "begging the question", but I'm not sure and don't want to be stepped on by a hundred-foot Bane.

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    Musk declares he's creating a new political party, specifically for fuckwits like himself who didn't realize Trump doesn't value anyone but Trump, but still wanting to be vilely racist.

    Tesla stocks drop $68 billion in 48 hours.

    Tesla stock fell nearly 7% on Monday after CEO Elon Musk announced plans to form a new political party.

    The electric vehicle company lost more than $68 billion in market cap.

    Musk said Saturday that the party would be called the “America Party” and could focus “on just 2 or 3 Senate seats and 8 to 10 House districts.” He suggested this would be “enough to serve as the deciding vote on contentious laws, ensuring that they serve the true will of the people.”

    The billionaire’s involvement in politics has been a point of contention for investors. Musk earlier this year was instrumental in the so-called Department of Government Efficiency and worked closely with President Donald Trump — a move seen as potentially hurting Tesla’s brand.

    Musk left DOGE in May, which helped Tesla’s stock.

    Now the tech billionaire’s reinvolvement in the political arena is making investors nervous.

    “Very simply Musk diving deeper into politics and now trying to take on the Beltway establishment is exactly the opposite direction that Tesla investors/shareholders want him to take during this crucial period for the Tesla story,” Dan Ives, global head of technology research at Wedbush Securities, said in a note Sunday.

    “While the core Musk supporters will back Musk at every turn no matter what, there is broader sense of exhaustion from many Tesla investors that Musk keeps heading down the political track,” he wrote.
    I can't imagine how stupid you have to fucking be to be shamed out of DC, all you have to do is shut up and run your business, and you fuck up so badly you cost yourself enough money to buy 15 Trumps.

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    I have said this before when it comes to Ol' Musky and The Mango Mussolini and I will say it again. Well, I'll actually let Ken Watanabe say it for me:

    On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

    - H. L. Mencken

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    It's not a fight. There is no vice cult leader, and most of MAGA has realized Elon's an uncharismatic loser now.

    If this idea of a party is something that actually takes root, and doesn't die in a couple months like most of Musk's drug-fueled fancies, then I'll both eat my hat and enjoy him stealing away votes from the Republicans before crashing and burning. But I'm not counting on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jastall View Post
    It's not a fight. There is no vice cult leader, and most of MAGA has realized Elon's an uncharismatic loser now.

    If this idea of a party is something that actually takes root, and doesn't die in a couple months like most of Musk's drug-fueled fancies, then I'll both eat my hat and enjoy him stealing away votes from the Republicans before crashing and burning. But I'm not counting on it.
    Best case scenario: Zaftig Teddy Ruxpin takes over after nature finallly gets their shit together. MAGA accepts No Vice Cult Leaders. Splits em.
    Some flee to Elmo's Videodrome Party. An island is purchased. Said island is already furnished. No files were found on the premises.
    The True Believers get discouraged when after a long weekend Teddy is still in charge. Maybe their next meeting is catered by Flavor-Aid.
    Next admin steps in, Videodrome Island get an influx of approximately 1,600 or so former ICE agents. And Sorbo.
    Party is in disarray.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jastall View Post
    It's not a fight. There is no vice cult leader, and most of MAGA has realized Elon's an uncharismatic loser now.

    If this idea of a party is something that actually takes root, and doesn't die in a couple months like most of Musk's drug-fueled fancies, then I'll both eat my hat and enjoy him stealing away votes from the Republicans before crashing and burning. But I'm not counting on it.
    Then the worst case scenario here is Elon is humiliated and he spends hundreds of millions of dollars against Trump instead of for Trump. I'm not seeing the problem.
    Last edited by Evil Midnight Bomber; 2025-08-09 at 11:56 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jastall View Post
    It's not a fight. There is no vice cult leader, and most of MAGA has realized Elon's an uncharismatic loser now.

    If this idea of a party is something that actually takes root, and doesn't die in a couple months like most of Musk's drug-fueled fancies, then I'll both eat my hat and enjoy him stealing away votes from the Republicans before crashing and burning. But I'm not counting on it.
    Musk is still giving money to the GOP. The whole thing was a lie, and is meant to try and draw votes to get the GOP to win, again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomcookie View Post
    Musk is still giving money to the GOP. The whole thing was a lie, and is meant to try and draw votes to get the GOP to win, again.
    I mean he did fund Gina Carano's lawsuit against Disney - If there's an easy way to see the kind of shitty people Elon Musk supports there's that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain N View Post
    I mean he did fund Gina Carano's lawsuit against Disney - If there's an easy way to see the kind of shitty people Elon Musk supports there's that.
    The dude is a Nazi. The same will go for anyone who joins his little party. Kanye West tried the same thing, and the motives were obvious. It's the same for the modern Libertarian Party, they exist solely to get a Republican elected.

    I may not like Gina Carano much, but on the scale of shitty famous people, she's probably below the likes of Mel Gibson, or even Dean Cain. Of course, much like Dean Cain, I don't really think she was ever that famous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomcookie View Post
    I don't really think she was ever that famous.
    Wrestler. Totally in the Trump orbit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Wrestler. Totally in the Trump orbit.
    not a wrestler - MMA fighter.
    i don't post that to "gotcha" at you, it's just a minor (and let's be honest, inconsequential and meaningless) detail, but on a technicality it's true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomcookie View Post

    I may not like Gina Carano much, but on the scale of shitty famous people, she's probably below the likes of Mel Gibson, or even Dean Cain. Of course, much like Dean Cain, I don't really think she was ever that famous.
    She never was that famous...but she could have been if she could have just said "I'm sorry".

    She'd be headlining her own Star Wars Series right now if she did.
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    Elon Musk sues Apple for not pushing Twitter.

    Hey Apple App Store, why do you refuse to put either X or Grok in your ‘Must Have’ section when X is the #1 news app in the world and Grok is #5 among all apps? Are you playing politics? What gives? Inquiring minds want to know.
    "But Twitter isn't news."

    Correct. Yes, media organizations have Twitter accounts, but so do bots, trolls, and liars. At best, Twitter points you to sources.

    "Doesn't Musk rig Twitter intentionally?"

    Yes he does.

    "Why would Apple push Grok when they have their own AI?"

    They wouldn't.

    Look, Apple has gotten in trouble for anti-trust issues before, mostly in the EU. But Musk is basically walking into a McDonalds and asking for Wendy's fries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Wrestler. Totally in the Trump orbit.
    Why not both, UFC and WWE are both huge gateways into the MAGA life.

    Funny thing... kids wont beleive this. But back in the 90's Sen John McCain tried to get MMA banned. He wrote letters to all the governors and tried to introduce legislation to ban it. Just funny that he saw a menace before it unfolded. But Dana White, Joe Rogan, Steve Bannon, and Trump saw an audience being primed.

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    Haven't seen anyone mention this yet in this thread:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ble-rcna222344

    Tesla hit with $243 million in damages after jury finds its Autopilot feature contributed to fatal crash
    The verdict follows a three-week trial that threw a spotlight on how Tesla and CEO Elon Musk have marketed their driver-assistance software.


    MIAMI — A federal jury on Friday found Tesla partly liable in a 2019 car crash that killed a pedestrian and left another person badly injured when the car was in Autopilot mode.

    The jury awarded the plaintiffs $43 million in compensatory damages for pain and suffering plus $200 million in punitive damages, which are intended to deter future harmful behavior by Tesla.

    The verdict is a blow for Tesla and CEO Elon Musk as they try to convince the public, government regulators and investors that their self-driving software is safe.

    The eight-person jury said that Tesla was partly to blame for the crash in the Florida Keys six years ago, when neither the driver of the Tesla sedan nor the Autopilot software braked in time for an intersection. The jury assigned Tesla one-third of the blame and assigned two-thirds to the driver, who was reaching for his cell phone at the time of the crash. He was sued separately.

    The jury found that the plaintiffs experienced pain and suffering totaling $129 million, but Tesla will be required to pay only a third of that, or $43 million in compensatory damages, given its partial liability, a spokesperson for the plaintiffs' lawyers said.
    Brett Schreiber, a lawyer for the plaintiffs, blamed Musk individually in his closing summary to the jury Thursday.

    “It is Tesla’s CEO who created an expectation among consumers that Autopilot can perform beyond its limitations,” he said.

    He also said Tesla’s driver-assistance technology was unproven but that the company hyped it anyway.

    “We are here because Dillon Angulo and Neima Benavides were part of a beta test they never signed up for,” he said.
    And there are more lawsuits coming:

    https://www.motortrend.com/news/repo...driving-claims
    Another day, and another story about Tesla and its self-driving features. This time, a lawsuit has been filed by Tesla shareholders over testing its self-driving vehicles including those intended for use as robotaxi services like the aptly named, “Robotaxi.” This suit comes amid similar stories in unrelated cases in Florida and California.

    Filed this week according to Reuters, the class action lawsuit by Tesla shareholders was launched in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Texas against both the brand and Elon Musk himself. The suit accuses both the company and its CEO of concealing testing data that showed that Tesla and its self-driving capabilities were overstated and potentially dangerous, thus committing securities fraud against the shareholders. The class action is led by Tesla shareholder Denise Morand in Austin, Texas, and is claiming damages for her and other shareholders between April 19, 2023, and June 22, 2025.
    https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-...thout-consent/

    A new class action lawsuit alleges Tesla violated California privacy law by tracking visitors to its website without their consent.

    Plaintiff Peter Dawidzik filed the class action lawsuit against Tesla on July 31 in California federal court, alleging violations of state privacy law.

    Dawidzik claims Tesla’s website uses tracking technologies, such as pixel trackers, which collect detailed information about users’ interactions with the site. This includes data like IP addresses, browser details and geolocation, which are then transmitted to third-party servers.

    Tesla’s trackers allegedly capture and transmit users’ IP addresses, full page URLs, referrer headers, device identifiers and other non-content metadata, functioning as “pen registers” and/or “trap and trace devices” under California law, Dawidzik explains.

    Dawidzik argues that Tesla’s use of these trackers without user consent violates California’s Invasion of Privacy Act (CIPA), which prohibits the use of pen registers and trap and trace devices without consent or a court order.
    And for a Legal analysis:

    Last edited by Evil Midnight Bomber; 2025-08-17 at 06:20 AM.
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    Tesla had to slash leasing fees in the UK because it's doing so poorly.

    Aug 18 (Reuters) - British motorists can now lease a Tesla electric vehicle for just over half of what they would have paid a year ago, The Times reported on Monday, citing industry sources. Tesla has been forced to offer discounts of up to 40% to car leasing companies to shift more units, the report said.

    The discounts are also due to the lack of storage space for Tesla vehicles in the UK, the report said.

    Reuters could not immediately confirm the report. Tesla did not immediately respond to a Reuters request for comment.

    Tesla's July sales in the UK fell about 60% to 987 units in July, according to the latest data from the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT). British new car registrations overall fell about 5% year-on-year in July, according to the SMMT.

    Battery electric vehicles are now projected to account for 23.8% of new registrations in 2025, slightly up from SMMT's previous forecast of 23.5%.

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    Err, I know this is some sweet candy to Liberals of how Tesla is failing. On the books sure, but once more the Stock Market and idiots feeding him is always something different. Plus my take was Elon has such a large market share, his own money and well being able to rob and take over our government is he will just buy the market share of whatever he feels fit. We have seen this with AI. So Idk if we will ever get rid of this cockroach.

    Oh if you believe in good ole free market capitalism, there are other Big Dawgs in say AI like Apple, Microsoft, etc., he need to go up against. Just saying his X-hundreds of billions helps.

    SpaceX Gets Billions From the Government. It Gives Little to Nothing Back in Taxes.

    Original NYT article but ad blocked.

    This is from Daily Beast:

    SpaceX was bleeding cash for its first two decades in existence—much like other start-up tech firms of the 21st century, including Uber and Tesla.

    The company had reportedly racked up $5 billion in losses by late 2021. However, with the help of its successful satellite-based internet offering, Starlink, and a litany of government contracts, the Times reports SpaceX has profited billions since 2022.


    The Times reports that “SpaceX has most likely paid little to no federal income taxes since its founding in 2002.”
    This is where I wish people but perhaps a certain political party would educate the voter that these companies get your taxes and never pay any income tax. Of course on the other infuriating hand is these leaches who get Federal Tax money and then bitch about taxes and gubbbberment spending. Always amazing that billionaires get their cake and eat it too.

    Speaking of privilege:

    As @GovBillLee says Tennessee will give Elon Musk as much free land as he needs for their ridiculous Teslas-only tunnel, Holly McCall points out we can’t even take care of kids in TN DCS custody but sure let’s give the world’s richest man free stuff.


    Mirroring Las Vegas but BIGGER the state of Tennessee is giving carte blanche for elmo to claim land make ridiculous tunnels that have failed and of course not pay taxes for land purchases, etc.
    "Buh dah DEMS"

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    lmao ok turn nashville into a shithole, bill lee.

    whatever, man. didn't he already try this in vegas and it's a hilarious joke of a one-land tunnel with humans driving tesla suvs through it? like, quite possibly the lest efficient travel system designed in the 21st century?

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    Remember kids. CNN loves Mistah Trump, wants him to win and rule like a king.


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    Remember kids. CNN loves Mistah Trump, wants him to win and rule like a king.

    Oh for fucks...

    Screw off CNN! Us in Europe literally have more at stake from this fucking war than the US, you absolute twats!

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