1. #8641
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    The EU seizing assets of any American company would not go down well with Trump I'm sure.
    That's because Trump is a vindictive idiot who thinks his word is the supreme law of the land everywhere in the world.

    It is quite fundamental that no US president can allow a foreign power to remove an Americans hard fought for first amendment rights. That is what this EU action attempts to do and why it is bound to fail.
    An American's First Amendment rights don't apply outside of America.

  2. #8642
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    That's because Trump is a vindictive idiot who thinks his word is the supreme law of the land everywhere in the world.

    An American's First Amendment rights don't apply outside of America.
    American voices on an American platform surely then are covered and the EU are in the wrong to fine them.

    The fact that X penetrates the EU's digital border is not the fault of X, and perhaps the EU should implement the great firewall of Europe to prevent that.

  3. #8643
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    The EU seizing assets
    you shouldn't be shitposting from a massage parlor

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    of any American company
    wait until you find out these companies also pay the EU taxes

    i hope you're seated

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    And don't forget there are Billions of EU assets held in American banks that would become vulnerable should an American judge levy penalties on the EU in retaliation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    It is quite fundamental that no US president can allow a foreign power to remove an Americans hard fought for first amendment rights.
    oh my i'm so sorry our "first 'mendunt" brainrot is leaking

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    That is what this EU action attempts to do and why it is bound to fail.
    it's really a bold statement to say that you truly understand nothing, but here you are all the same. so brave

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    American voices on an American platform surely then are covered and the EU are in the wrong to fine them.
    america owns all of cyberspace, what are you doing on our internet? and from thailand no less?

  4. #8644
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    American voices on an American platform surely then are covered and the EU are in the wrong to fine them.
    If that platform is operating in Europe, they have to abide by Europe's laws. They're free to simply not operate in Europe, of course.

    The fact that X penetrates the EU's digital border is not the fault of X, and perhaps the EU should implement the great firewall of Europe to prevent that.
    That's not how it works. If X wants to not operate in Europe so that they don't have to follow Europe's laws, they need to block European users from their site.
    Last edited by DarkTZeratul; 2025-12-07 at 10:18 PM.

  5. #8645
    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    Go to Iran and promote LGBTQ talking points and you can be jailed and possibly executed for that. You cannot be jailed or executed here in the United States for that.
    Not yet anyway ... but give the Republicans time, it'll come ...

  6. #8646
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    The EU seizing assets of any American company would not go down well with Trump I'm sure.
    And that matters... why? There's a reason his nickname is TACO.

  7. #8647
    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Yes, please, explain laws, that'll be fucking funny.

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    What's interesting? That's laughably stupid. Even pre-schoolers have a better understanding of how shit works.
    You can have whatever laws you want. They are still dumb and why European tech companies will always pale compared to american ones

  8. #8648
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    You can have whatever laws you want. They are still dumb and why European tech companies will always pale compared to american ones
    The Libertarian dream of working 23hrs/day, 7days/week, with no holidays or sick days.

  9. #8649
    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    I said they could, not that they would.
    Being blocked from EU member states is a bigger financial blow than $140M. EU accounts for approximately 20% (94.8 million) of X user base.

  10. #8650
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    The only one that I can buy is the advertisements. Blue checkmarks have been changed and that is a business decision for the platform to decide what it means. (The change was communicated) And provide researchers access to data? That is up for the company to decide.
    They could have added another thing than the blue check mark to indicate that it was a paid account.
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    Russia were provoked by the US backed UN letting Ukraine join nato.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    The EU seizing assets of any American company would not go down well with Trump I'm sure.
    If those assets are in the EU, then the EU is not seizing assets of any American company. They're seizing assets of an EU company.

    Welcome to the incredibly basic concept of "multinationals", where companies do business in multiple countries and are subject to the laws thereof, regardless of where they're headquartered. Not understanding this very basic concept is so ridiculous I think it's clear you're shitposting for yuks or mindless jingoism, rather than trying to raise a serious question.

    And don't forget there are Billions of EU assets held in American banks that would become vulnerable should an American judge levy penalties on the EU in retaliation.
    No they won't.

    See also the billions in American assets, particularly military bases, all through the EU. If the USA can grab anything they want out of American banks, then EU member nations can just take all that military materiel and munitions for their own use.

    You aren't thinking any of this through.

    It is quite fundamental that no US president can allow a foreign power to remove an Americans hard fought for first amendment rights. That is what this EU action attempts to do and why it is bound to fail.
    The EU literally can't do that.

    Because American first amendment rights only exist in American jurisdiction. American law stops at your own borders. It has no bearing whatsoever on any American outside those borders.


  12. #8652
    Quote Originally Posted by diller View Post
    They could have added another thing than the blue check mark to indicate that it was a paid account.
    Do you think they should be fined 52.4 million dollars cuz of it?

    As far as I am aware, they were very public about the change and that the blue checkmark no longer means that.

    There could have been some confusion at the start but not anymore.

    The EU fining them that amount cuz they dont like that system is absurd and it reeks of a desperate attempt to punish american tech companies for whatever they can get away with.

  13. #8653
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Do you think they should be fined 52.4 million dollars cuz of it?

    As far as I am aware, they were very public about the change and that the blue checkmark no longer means that.

    There could have been some confusion at the start but not anymore.

    The EU fining them that amount cuz they dont like that system is absurd and it reeks of a desperate attempt to punish american tech companies for whatever they can get away with.
    I suggest you read the actual complaint and reason for the fine, unlike the US the EU has strict privacy and transparency laws which Twitter clearly violated. The whole the are trying to "punish" American tech companies is oligarch bullshit fed to the dumb peasants who won't read the actual thing. When American companies are in the EU they have to follow EU laws, I don't see you coming here bitching about all the cucking Elon has done in China to make money. The "punishing" complaints seem rather selective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Do you think they should be fined 52.4 million dollars cuz of it?

    As far as I am aware, they were very public about the change and that the blue checkmark no longer means that.

    There could have been some confusion at the start but not anymore.

    The EU fining them that amount cuz they dont like that system is absurd and it reeks of a desperate attempt to punish american tech companies for whatever they can get away with.
    It isn't about "not liking that system". It's about illegal and abusive conduct that violates EU laws. X was even given the opportunity to change the system to avoid repercussions; it's their refusal to comply with the law that resulted in the fine.

    It isn't about the company being American at all. It's about them doing illegal shit. You not recognizing that fact isn't an argument; it's you being willfully dishonest.


  15. #8655
    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    I suggest you read the actual complaint and reason for the fine, unlike the US the EU has strict privacy and transparency laws which Twitter clearly violated. The whole the are trying to "punish" American tech companies is oligarch bullshit fed to the dumb peasants who won't read the actual thing. When American companies are in the EU they have to follow EU laws, I don't see you coming here bitching about all the cucking Elon has done in China to make money. The "punishing" complaints seem rather selective.
    They are literally fining X cuz they dont like their blue checkmark system

    Deceptive design of X's ‘blue checkmark'
    X's use of the ‘blue checkmark' for ‘verified accounts' deceives users. This violates the DSA obligation for online platforms to prohibit deceptive design practices on their services. On X, anyone can pay to obtain the ‘verified' status without the company meaningfully verifying who is behind the account, making it difficult for users to judge the authenticity of accounts and content they engage with. This deception exposes users to scams, including impersonation frauds, as well as other forms of manipulation by malicious actors. While the DSA does not mandate user verification, it clearly prohibits online platforms from falsely claiming that users have been verified, when no such verification took plac
    https://ec.europa.eu/commission/pres.../en/ip_25_2934

    And obviously you have to follow the laws and whatnot. That doesnt take away from pointing out that the laws are dumb and obviously geared towards certain goals (punishing american tech companies)

  16. #8656
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    They are literally fining X cuz they dont like their blue checkmark system
    And the preverbal question is so what? It is the EU. They are allowed to have their own laws allowing or banning whatever. Much like China, Saudi Arabia, India, Egypt, The Republic of the Congo or any other nation.

    Do I agree with it? No. But I also do not live in the EU. And like anything else, if I don't like a law in a place, I don't go to that place.

    Twitter/X can choose to not do business in the EU if they don't like the laws/regulations there.

  17. #8657
    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    And the preverbal question is so what? It is the EU. They are allowed to have their own laws allowing or banning whatever. Much like China, Saudi Arabia, India, Egypt, The Republic of the Congo or any other nation.

    Do I agree with it? No. But I also do not live in the EU. And like anything else, if I don't like a law in a place, I don't go to that place.

    Twitter/X can choose to not do business in the EU if they don't like the laws/regulations there.
    I dont disagree!

    The EU is free to pass whatever laws they want. But in the same token I am free to point out what their ultimate goal is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    They are literally fining X cuz they dont like their blue checkmark system
    No. They're fining them because the blue checkmark system has broken EU law.

    Framing laws as "things they don't like" is ridiculous. It's like saying the only reason people are upset about serial killers is they "don't like the killing". You're intentionally using emotional language to imply there's no merit to the law, and you don't actually have a rational argument as to why, so this is all you've got.

    And obviously you have to follow the laws and whatnot. That doesnt take away from pointing out that the laws are dumb and obviously geared towards certain goals (punishing american tech companies)
    Again, you use emotions over reason, because you can't actually explain any actual reason why these laws are "dumb".

    And you insert a completely baseless and ultimately jingoistic false explanation as to their motives. None of these laws were written about American companies. You're making that shit up, out of nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    I dont disagree!

    The EU is free to pass whatever laws they want. But in the same token I am free to point out what their ultimate goal is.
    I mean, you're not doing that. You're making shit up and pretending your overactive and self-involved imagination is reality. You haven't made a single argument thus far. Just empty, baseless claims. And claims are not arguments. Otherwise, deal with the "truth" that the only reason X did all this is because they're trying to give the lizard people ways to avoid being detected since the skinsuits aren't perfect yet. And if you think that's batshit, you'll understand why we feel the same about everything you claim.


  19. #8659
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Do you think they should be fined 52.4 million dollars cuz of it?
    Did I say that they did?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    The EU is free to pass whatever laws they want. But in the same token I am free to point out what their ultimate goal is.
    And what are you saying their ultimate goal is?
    Quote Originally Posted by Volatilis View Post
    Russia were provoked by the US backed UN letting Ukraine join nato.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Do you think they should be fined 52.4 million dollars cuz of it?

    As far as I am aware, they were very public about the change and that the blue checkmark no longer means that.

    There could have been some confusion at the start but not anymore.

    The EU fining them that amount cuz they dont like that system is absurd and it reeks of a desperate attempt to punish american tech companies for whatever they can get away with.
    “We totally communicated that we were going to break the law, so you should be okay with us breaking the law.”


    I’m shedding zero tears for Elon musk getting slapped for any amount of money. I don’t personally run the risk of my nonexistent multi-billion dollar tech company being fined for a relative pittance, so why should I care?
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    Kaleredar is right...
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