Elon Musk Buys Twitter

[Elenos]

Wow, so Elon bought Twitter then basically immediately started posting unhinged conspiracy theories from a suspect as fuck media source?

And use of the N-word increased 500% in a single day?

Y'all, I have great confidence in the future of Twitter and its ability to attract and retain big-dollar advertisers. Elon seems like the smartest of cookies out there. Fuckin lol, this is hilarious.

Does this mean all the journos and everyone else needs to learn how to use TikTok or some shit now?

As if you give a damn about Twitter's financial future.

You all defended the ability of a private company to decide how to police speech in their own way when it was convenient for your viewpoints, what was the phrase used? It's a private company free speech norm don't apply on their platform?

I say you reap what you sowed really with this, because the line of thinking people in favor of the policies enacted by twitter since 2016 ignored the obvious issue: That a private company should NEVER have this kind of power on deciding what is and isn't acceptable in the public sphere, and yes twitter is that big important nowadays, as are Youtube and Facebook.

But I'm just gonna give you a hint what's going to happen, what I expect to anyway: Shadow Bans for people who dare criticize our great lord Elon Musk. He has that power now, because if anyone thinks the N word skyrocketing in usage is bad then they are incredibly foolish and naïve compared to what will almost certainly happen: That is Elon Musk promoting certain views on Twitter while downgrading others.

Wait to see what comes.

[Zan15]

Yeah and I hope the courts side with him. The top executives have failed investors so badly they jumped at the first offer to buy the company

You shouldnt recieve a golden parachute for failing



Elon going for the throat

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Take my energy ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

failing? They got an amazing deal to close.

Every other social media and even part time social media like google is down 40-75% this year.
These Execs managed to get a deal that kept the stock at a premium over pre buyout offer, when any other deal would have been renegotiated down to the 20's easy.

and that is down 40-50-75% for companies making 4-6-12+ billion dollars a quarter.
Twitter was losing money.

If anything these were the few execs that actually deserve a payout...lol

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As if you give a damn about Twitter's financial future.

You all defended the ability of a private company to decide how to police speech in their own way when it was convenient for your viewpoints, what was the phrase used? It's a private company free speech norm don't apply on their platform?

I say you reap what you sowed really with this, because the line of thinking people in favor of the policies enacted by twitter since 2016 ignored the obvious issue: That a private company should NEVER have this kind of power on deciding what is and isn't acceptable in the public sphere, and yes twitter is that big important nowadays, as are Youtube and Facebook.

But I'm just gonna give you a hint what's going to happen, what I expect to anyway: Shadow Bans for people who dare criticize our great lord Elon Musk. He has that power now, because if anyone thinks the N word skyrocketing in usage is bad then they are incredibly foolish and naïve compared to what will almost certainly happen: That is Elon Musk promoting certain views on Twitter while downgrading others.

Wait to see what comes.

Sorry no matter the feels, it's not a "public sphere" it's their private company sphere.

You don't see the difference between defending banning people for the horrible things they say vs allowing people to say the horrible things?
WOW.


Oh, you supported twitter when it was their viewpoint to ban people for posting rape videos
But now you are against twitter for allowing people to post rape videos just because a liberal is not in charge anymore!!!
HOW CAN YOU SUPPORT FREE SPEECH BEFORE BUT NOT NOW!! How can you support their right as a private company before but not now!!!

Do you see it yet?

Same extreme example i just posted can be used for racist speech, hate speech, violence, etc etc.

[Endus]

As if you give a damn about Twitter's financial future.

You all defended the ability of a private company to decide how to police speech in their own way when it was convenient for your viewpoints, what was the phrase used? It's a private company free speech norm don't apply on their platform?

Nobody here is contesting Musk's right to open the floodgates for bigoted abuse on Twitter.

We're saying he's a jackass for doing so.

Remember that whole "judge people for the content of their speech and the speech they support" bit? Yeah. That's what we're talking about. Social backlash against Musk and Twitter. Not legal backlash.

I say you reap what you sowed really with this, because the line of thinking people in favor of the policies enacted by twitter since 2016 ignored the obvious issue: That a private company should NEVER have this kind of power on deciding what is and isn't acceptable in the public sphere, and yes twitter is that big important nowadays, as are Youtube and Facebook.

None of those companies have any such say. They literally only have control over the content that's posted to their servers. Twitter has the say on deciding what is and is not acceptable on Twitter. And that's the end of their "control".

But I'm just gonna give you a hint what's going to happen, what I expect to anyway: Shadow Bans for people who dare criticize our great lord Elon Musk. He has that power now, because if anyone thinks the N word skyrocketing in usage is bad then they are incredibly foolish and naïve compared to what will almost certainly happen: That is Elon Musk promoting certain views on Twitter while downgrading others.

Wait to see what comes.

And? He's free to do so. Same way Parler and Gab and Truth Social all are. Same way Stormfront is, as a website. You keep thinking it's an issue here of basic principles, when it's an issue of specific choices. Stormfront are free to be racist as fuck on their forums. And any user outed from there will be publicly labelled a racist shithead for the rest of their natural lives for the things they've posted on such a site. That's what free speech looks like. You get to be as much of a dingus as you want, and then everyone in the world gets to condemn you for being a dingus and if it ruins your life, tough shit, dingus.

[Edge-]

As if you give a damn about Twitter's financial future.

I'm not an investor, why should I? I mean outside of not wanting employees to lose their jobs mostly because an unpredictable and mercurial asshole billionaire bought their company on accident.

You all defended the ability of a private company to decide how to police speech in their own way when it was convenient for your viewpoints, what was the phrase used? It's a private company free speech norm don't apply on their platform?

100% still maintain this position.

However the consequences of this position, as we've seen with the "free speech" focused social media platforms, is that capitalism works. Advertisers don't want their brands associated with much of the content hosted there and consequently exercises their freedom of association by not advertising there.

The problem is you think these two ideas are in conflict. They are not, and can be and are true at the same time.

I say you reap what you sowed really with this, because the line of thinking people in favor of the policies enacted by twitter since 2016 ignored the obvious issue: That a private company should NEVER have this kind of power on deciding what is and isn't acceptable in the public sphere, and yes twitter is that big important nowadays, as are Youtube and Facebook.

Everything is the "public sphere". This is the "public sphere". Your old Geocities blog is the "public sphere". If anything is in any way public, it's in the "public sphere". Twitter however, remains a private platform. A platform with far, far fewer users than many other social media platforms. And a platform that, like all other social media platforms, has rules and terms of service that users agree to in order to have the privilege to use the platform.

Nobody is owed a Twitter account, and most Americans don't even have one. Like, 65%+ of Americans (conservatively last I recall) don't have one, if not more.

But I'm just gonna give you a hint what's going to happen, what I expect to anyway: Shadow Bans for people who dare criticize our great lord Elon Musk. He has that power now, because if anyone thinks the N word skyrocketing in usage is bad then they are incredibly foolish and naïve compared to what will almost certainly happen: That is Elon Musk promoting certain views on Twitter while downgrading others.

I doubt he cares that much or even has a goal in mind, to be honest. Hence why he walked in with a sink. Because this is a spectacle and he's compensating for the fact that he has no fuckin plan.

[Jastall]

As if you give a damn about Twitter's financial future.

You all defended the ability of a private company to decide how to police speech in their own way when it was convenient for your viewpoints, what was the phrase used? It's a private company free speech norm don't apply on their platform?

I say you reap what you sowed really with this, because the line of thinking people in favor of the policies enacted by twitter since 2016 ignored the obvious issue: That a private company should NEVER have this kind of power on deciding what is and isn't acceptable in the public sphere, and yes twitter is that big important nowadays, as are Youtube and Facebook.

But I'm just gonna give you a hint what's going to happen, what I expect to anyway: Shadow Bans for people who dare criticize our great lord Elon Musk. He has that power now, because if anyone thinks the N word skyrocketing in usage is bad then they are incredibly foolish and naïve compared to what will almost certainly happen: That is Elon Musk promoting certain views on Twitter while downgrading others.

Wait to see what comes.

What does that matter? The way Musk is going on about it, the platform's going to be dead in the water in a year aside from his loyal worshippers. If he wants to turn the thing into an echo chamber dedicated to his greatness, let him, it's his money and reputation he's burning for the sake of his ego. There's tons of other communication channels in the world and people will adapt, Twitter isn't even remotely the biggest social media platform now and it sure isn't gonna grow much.

Again, Twitter as a "public space" matters only to people who spend far, far too much time online and think everyone else does. As a platform it's at best convenient to share news and updates, but hardly crucial, and singularly terrible at encouraging serious discourse and debate due, among other things, to its small format and encouragement of like and share-farming hot takes rather than actual ideas. It is much more replaceable than, say, Youtube is if you ask me.

[Orange Joe]

As if you give a damn about Twitter's financial future.

You all defended the ability of a private company to decide how to police speech in their own way when it was convenient for your viewpoints, what was the phrase used? It's a private company free speech norm don't apply on their platform?

I say you reap what you sowed really with this, because the line of thinking people in favor of the policies enacted by twitter since 2016 ignored the obvious issue: That a private company should NEVER have this kind of power on deciding what is and isn't acceptable in the public sphere, and yes twitter is that big important nowadays, as are Youtube and Facebook.

But I'm just gonna give you a hint what's going to happen, what I expect to anyway: Shadow Bans for people who dare criticize our great lord Elon Musk. He has that power now, because if anyone thinks the N word skyrocketing in usage is bad then they are incredibly foolish and naïve compared to what will almost certainly happen: That is Elon Musk promoting certain views on Twitter while downgrading others.

Wait to see what comes.

Twitter =/= public spere no matter how much you cry about it

[Paranoid Android]

NEW: Twitter is planning to start charging $20 a month for verification. It’s Elon Musk’s first big project.

Oh, and the team building it was told they will all be fired if they don’t meet a launch deadline of November 7th.

This seems really idiotic in a way with quick glance. First I heard it was $5/month but now $20. Wow! The blue mark was somewhat of a status symbol in never really got it. If we are talking about verified news, perhaps businesses and some people it was nice but not the end all be all for me.

So seems very much as a nickel and dime way to generate revenue.

Oh the "digital town square" I guess now comes with a membership fee.

Found a good thread on it.

2/ $20 a month is not a trivial amount of money. There's a world of difference between $4.99 and $19.99 that isn't captured by the 4x multiple. Lots of people can spend $5 a month and not think about it. Everybody thinks about $20. It goes beyond the precise dollar amount.

4/ When you're selling a subscription without strong transactional benefits you're relying heavily on affinity. Twitter didn't have a lot of that kind of affinity pre-Musk. Even less afterwards. Having a Blue Check will cease to mean whatever vague sense of being a real person.

10/ We learned during the acquisition that engagement on Twitter relies heavily on a relatively small number of power users and their engagement is in decline. From three or four different angles this is a way to push that decline into overdrive. I doubt it happens but in ..

[Shadowferal]

I should wonder if this won't degrade into "truth social."

[SAY HER NAME]

Based based based

[Draco-Onis]

Based based based

Your utter hatred for rank and file twitter people continues to amuse me.

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I should wonder if this won't degrade into "truth social."

At this point that would be the best case scenario for Elon at the end of this shit show.

[NoiseTank13]

As if you give a damn about Twitter's financial future.

Ah yes, another "hate speech is free speech!" take.

[Paranoid Android]

This is fake – I did *not* tweet out a link to The New York Times!

Elon tweet above with screen capture. Not linking this piece of fesces tweet. If you want to verify it, pay me $20.


So the digital town square of free speech is now questioning news articles, which is 100% true btw. Elon deleted the tweet and attacks the media.

Oh I'm sure the right and Elon stans going to say this is great! But didn't you just bitch about how Twitter was bias to the right before Elon. Yes, I'm bias and I will say with 100% that Elon will never question Fox News and other right as "fake news". This is a reason why I hate him and say Rogan. They always called the MSM fake yet in a joke never Fox and right. The oh btw, Murdoch and lawyer's defense say Fox is entertainment.

[prwraith]

I love how Elon is now seeing the other side of free speech. Advertisements pulling out lol.

What is it with the right not understanding free speech at all and yet having a doctor in the 2nd amendment.

[Edge-]

He paid $44B to put a $20/month price tag on the blue checkmark and shitpost with impunity lol.

What a galaxy brain move. I don't think even laying off all the Twitter software engineers is going to make the company profitable, especially not with his initial moves already causing GM to pause advertising.

What especially with Musk also owning a "competitor" (quotes because Tesla is a battery company masquerading as a car company). Don't want to give the competition money and all, I wonder if Musk thought about that before buying Twitter?

[Rasulis]

If Twitter ended up being like Parler or Truth Social, then they are financially dead. Can anybody name one major advertiser on either of those platform? Just one.

The reality is that there is a big graveyard on the internet full of the dead advertising companies that tried to compete with Googles and Facebook.

What people tend to forget is that Google and Facebook are so much more than just search engine or social media.

Facebook Marketplace has 1.1b active user worldwide and still growing. It generated 26b in revenue in 2021. It’s global market share of e-commerce is 51%. Approximately 75% of its users make over 75k. I know personally that many of our neighbors use it. We used it to buy used golf equipment last year when we wanted to take advantage of the $5 twilight fee for SF residence at Golden Gate Golf Course.

Facebook Shop is also worldwide and has 25 million active stores.

People been doing business on Instagram for years. My niece been doing that since high school. She would buy used clothes/jewelries, cleaned them up, put an ensemble, model the ensemble, and sell it on first come first serve basis.

We had a small party for our neighbors in May, and my wife ordered nasi tumpeng for 50 people from a small family business that only take order through WhatsApp. Cash or check only. I guess that’s how they get around having to pay tax.

The same business would advertise on WhatsApp what they would be cooking for the week on Monday. You put in the order on WhatsApp by Wednesday, and on Friday you can pick up the food at a convenient public area. They'll let you know where and when, by WhatsApp.

My mother would order gado-gado from her favorite street vendor using WhatsApp.

Even in the much-maligned Metaverse, there are people making money.

Meta is losing billions, but people are making real-life money in the metaverse: 'It's been an incredibly positive experience'

It won't be profitable anytime soon. However, there is real economy developing within the so called metaverse. Facebook is probably one of the few companies in the world with pocket deep enough to make it a reality, and they are ahead of all the others. Quite a few of my ETFs with substantial FB exposure are down quite a lot, and I am not getting rid of them.

[Edge-]

https://twitter.com/mrsambarlow/stat...13428450451460

Lol, Elon apparently had Tesla reach out to the developer of the critically acclaimed and award winning narrative game Her Story to try to get the game installed on Tesla's. I haven't played the game but apparently it's quite a good narrative experience.

The offer to cover the costs for the developer? They would get paid in exposure lol.

https://twitter.com/cabel/status/1586917667025612801

Oh, and Untitled Goose Game too, apparently, which also had tons of critical acclaim and sold very well.

Fuckin billionaires just out there slumming it, too poor to afford to pay for anything they haven't signed a legal contract obligating them to pay for.

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https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/31/...urity-treasury

And now calls for an investigation into the Saudi stake in Twitter. Every day it's looking like a better buy!

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https://www.foxbusiness.com/technolo...urt-stay-tuned

"Wachtell & Twitter board deliberately hid this evidence from the court," Musk tweeted Sunday night. He included a screenshot of internal messages from a Twitter executive referencing "fraudulent metrics."

"Stay tuned, more to come…," the billionaire added. Twitter was represented by Wachtell, Rosen, Lipton and Katz lawyers in their legal proceedings with the entrepreneur.

Proof of "fraudulent metrics" at Twitter may serve as a basis for arguments that Musk significantly overpaid in the $44 billion deal. Musk said earlier this month that he "obviously" paid more than the company was currently worth.

Reminder: He waived his due diligence when he signed the deal. Voluntarily. Nobody forced him into it.

Methinks he made a bad buy and is trying to convince the gullible internet that it's actually not his fault, when it's literally nobodies fault but his own.

[Begrudge]

everyone in this thread is so mad lol, yall know you dont have to use twitter right? time to find a new echo chamber lol, reddit is pretty left wing go there

[Pozz]

https://theintercept.com/2022/10/31/...formation-dhs/

Is an interesting read.

[Edge-]

everyone in this thread is so mad lol

*jokes and mocks Elon for making a dumb purchase and dealing with the consequences*

"WHY ARE YOU ALL SO MAD LOL"

Y'all are like Elon, apparently thinking that simply confidently projecting your fictional reality makes it real. Nobody in this thread is mad lol.

[Paranoid Android]

everyone in this thread is so mad lol, yall know you dont have to use twitter right? time to find a new echo chamber lol, reddit is pretty left wing go there

You know you don't have to reply in this thread. See how that works.

Hmm, echo chamber, huh? Wasn't it right wingers crying about so called Twitter bias and has a couple of Twitter clones where it's their bubble.

I get it, you probably don't pay attention, but the problem here is posting a conspiracy theory about a deadly assault.