Elon Musk Buys Twitter

**Forogil** · 2022-11-05, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Endus

Nobody here is contesting Musk's right to open the floodgates for bigoted abuse on Twitter.

We're saying he's a jackass for doing so.

Returning to this, as it isn't just a case of him being a jackass.

Twitter, as most large companies, operate in a number of countries and have to abide by the national rules - or leave the countries. So, the EU, India (that has already been a shit-show), and the UK and other countries will ensure that the floodgates for bigoted abuse aren't open, or there will be penalties (for the EU up to about 300 million $ per year).

So, anyone agreeing with those government rules are contesting Musk's ability to open the floodgates.

The more interesting case is China.

Twitter isn't currently operating in China, but Musk's other companies are - and if Musk is seen as allowing China-bashing there might be consequences for Tesla in China, and if he instead specifically limits the China-bashing people might see him as the big twatting censor causing backlash outside of China.

**Paranoid Android** · 2022-11-05, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by Endus

Nobody here is contesting Musk's right to open the floodgates for bigoted abuse on Twitter.

We're saying he's a jackass for doing so.

Elon being a jackass? No!

Trash me all day, but it’ll cost $8

First this doesn't make sense. $8 is about some verification mark.

More importantly this really is an asshole flaunting that he is trying to make money and doesn't give a shit about you.

I just had my first glance of Twitter today and sadly not even following Elon, but my timeline is spammed with his tweets. He truly is being the spoiled, asshole kid who bought the only PS5 and bragging about how much an asshole he can be and everyone has to live with it if the want to play. This is not hyperbole. Check out his timeline.

**Poopymonster** · 2022-11-05, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Paranoid Android

Elon being a jackass? No!

Trash me all day, but it’ll cost $8

First this doesn't make sense. $8 is about some verification mark.

More importantly this really is an asshole flaunting that he is trying to make money and doesn't give a shit about you.

I just had my first glance of Twitter today and sadly not even following Elon, but my timeline is spammed with his tweets. He truly is being the spoiled, asshole kid who bought the only PS5 and bragging about how much an asshole he can be and everyone has to live with it if the want to play. This is not hyperbole. Check out his timeline.

Have you seen the new ad for his blue check mark?

**Zan15** · 2022-11-05, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by ringpriest

Normally I have a less critical view of Musk than the typical left-leaning netizen, but he's is flat-out lying here.

Twitter's revenue is down because a good chunk of its revenue comes from advertising sold in advance. Advertisers have been doing due diligence and asking Musk for reassurance, or even an outline of his plan for Twitter, since May. And he has failed to do so. So they didn't front Twitter advertising money for 2023 (and maybe for 2022 Q4, not sure), instead adopting a wait and see approach. And so far, I doubt they're liking what they see, because it involves taking actions that are already getting him sued, and firing or driving out all the people they had good working relationships with.

Big business doesn't care about free speech or politic ideals. It cares about money. And what the right doesn't get is that their way of doing things is bad for business. Not just because it drives away moderates and liberals (who, very broadly speaking, have more disposable income), but because modern Republicanism in the United States isn't reliable, and business likes reliability. "I'm going to take over this advertising platform and make a lot of changes. Why? What's my business plan? Not gonna tell you, but it'll be awesome and I'm totally not making it up as I go. Honest. Now, give me money."

Musk knows all this. So when he goes on his platform and posts about activists causing loss of revenue, he's lying (or just maybe dangerously self-deluded). And the definition of "free speech" he's pushing is one that involves billionaires having a right to profit from bad decisions.

It's funny that he doesn't understand by his own logic advertisers are exerting their own right to free speech by not advertising on his platform.

**beanman12345** · 2022-11-05, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by Paranoid Android

Elon being a jackass? No!

Trash me all day, but it’ll cost $8

First this doesn't make sense. $8 is about some verification mark.

More importantly this really is an asshole flaunting that he is trying to make money and doesn't give a shit about you.

I just had my first glance of Twitter today and sadly not even following Elon, but my timeline is spammed with his tweets. He truly is being the spoiled, asshole kid who bought the only PS5 and bragging about how much an asshole he can be and everyone has to live with it if the want to play. This is not hyperbole. Check out his timeline.

Yup, he's that one Karen, that just happens to be a billionaire, and after complaining to the manager he buys the company he didn't want, well, he cries more because that's what Karen's do.

**Draco-Onis** · 2022-11-05, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by Ivanstone

I’m less worried about loudmouths like Elon Musk and more worried about people like Barre Seid.

Seid I never even heard about till he was 90 and had already spent decades donating 100s of millions of dollars to making more conservative judges.

With so many super pacs and dark money pacs available right now Elon could be outspending everyone and we wouldn't know it.

**Ivanstone** · 2022-11-05, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Draco-Onis

With so many super pacs and dark money pacs available right now Elon could be outspending everyone and we wouldn't know it.

Elon draws attention to himself. That could just be a distraction but if you make people hate you then the knives will come out.

Seid was a quiet man who made good quality products and treated his employees well. He also just happened to load America on the freight train to fascism. We knew the Federalist Society was shitty but we didn’t know how much worse they could be.

**Paranoid Android** · 2022-11-05, 08:51 PM

Elon is on fire!!

The CEO who needs and is begging for advertisers not to leave is extorting those advertisers that he will tell them to boycott these companies if they don't buy advertising. This is so amazing.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/...AQMxa-rqvwAQ4A

**LilSaihah** · 2022-11-05, 09:52 PM

Okay so everyone seems to be having fun here

Originally Posted by Combatbulter

He is quite dangerous with the current influence and money he has.

I'll be honest I'd probably prefer Musk over nameless, faceless Saudis holding the reins of power.

Originally Posted by Paranoid Android

Elon is on fire!!

The CEO who needs and is begging for advertisers not to leave is extorting those advertisers that he will tell them to boycott these companies if they don't buy advertising. This is so amazing.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/...AQMxa-rqvwAQ4A

It does very much strike me as "if you could, you would, rather than talking about it".

**Hypasonic** · 2022-11-05, 09:58 PM

Loved the fact check on the white house tweet that made them delete it. Least they know how it feels now. Not sure how twitter will be going forward but this is a good start.

**postman1782** · 2022-11-06, 02:02 AM

Originally Posted by Pannonian

So what do you think? Will Musk become 47th, 48th, 49th or 50th president of the US?

None, he wasn't born in the US nor were his parents American citizens.

**Glorious Leader** · 2022-11-06, 03:59 AM

Originally Posted by Paranoid Android

Elon is on fire!!

The CEO who needs and is begging for advertisers not to leave is extorting those advertisers that he will tell them to boycott these companies if they don't buy advertising. This is so amazing.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/...AQMxa-rqvwAQ4A

Elon sounds mad bro

**Drutt** · 2022-11-06, 05:12 AM

Originally Posted by Paranoid Android

Elon is on fire!!

The CEO who needs and is begging for advertisers not to leave is extorting those advertisers that he will tell them to boycott these companies if they don't buy advertising. This is so amazing.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/...AQMxa-rqvwAQ4A

This is incredible.

No new customer is going to sign up for being held hostage if they ever want to stop advertising. Jaw dropping stuff there.

The man is imploding in front of the whole world.

**Cthulhu 2020** · 2022-11-06, 10:42 AM

https://twitter.com/jessehawken/stat...63140652355585

Elon sure is farming L's.

**Huehuecoyotl** · 2022-11-06, 11:43 AM

At least we now have a proper understanding of Musks definition of free speech; "I can say anything I like, and you're not allowed to say anything I don't like".

You have to have a pretty fucked up system when all the money and power ends up in the hands of people like this. It's a strong argument for 100% taxation rates on anything over a billion. Or possibly even lower, to be honest. How much money does one normal person need?

**BlackDruid96** · 2022-11-06, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

At least we now have a proper understanding of Musks definition of free speech; "I can say anything I like, and you're not allowed to say anything I don't like".

You have to have a pretty fucked up system when all the money and power ends up in the hands of people like this. It's a strong argument for 100% taxation rates on anything over a billion. Or possibly even lower, to be honest. How much money does one normal person need?