1. #1561
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDruid96 View Post
    Twitter is a private company they can do whatever they want.
    They can, and in turn we are free to point and laugh at Musk for being an hypocritical, oversensitive egotist as well.

    Well, except on his platform. Because he's a champion of free speech only so long as it's free speech he likes.
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    Yellow Highlight.

    So you pay you play. Having someone pay for a privilege and in this case speech is the definition of restricting free speech.
    "Buh dah DEMS"

  3. #1563
    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    How much money does one normal person need?
    need? about 60k a year to live a decent life in a metropolitan city (in this example, Denver which is in the top 10 most expensive US cities)

    single, gamer, one bedroom renter, blow money on food and fun as i please, i save about 10k a year and spend the rest.

    so using that as my metric.... IMO no person should have more than 3 million.
    that is total. assets, savings, income, whatever.
    once you own 3 million worth of resource, 100% taxation.

  4. #1564
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDruid96 View Post
    Twitter is a private company they can do whatever they want.
    The Point






    Your head. But I know you did that intentionally since it's you we're talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malkiah View Post
    need? about 60k a year to live a decent life in a metropolitan city (in this example, Denver which is in the top 10 most expensive US cities)

    single, gamer, one bedroom renter, blow money on food and fun as i please, i save about 10k a year and spend the rest.

    so using that as my metric.... IMO no person should have more than 3 million.
    that is total. assets, savings, income, whatever.
    once you own 3 million worth of resource, 100% taxation.
    No those numbers are all arbitrary. In reality it's fine that we have hundred-billionaires who will become trillionaires in the next several years. If you think there is a cap to wealth then you're just going to keep getting proven wrong over the years.

  6. #1566
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    No those numbers are all arbitrary. In reality it's fine that we have hundred-billionaires who will become trillionaires in the next several years. If you think there is a cap to wealth then you're just going to keep getting proven wrong over the years.
    ... what?
    did we all just to watch you type while having a stroke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post

    Yellow Highlight.

    So you pay you play. Having someone pay for a privilege and in this case speech is the definition of restricting free speech.
    Also, a really good way to filter out bots by giving them a cheap option to gain traction, galaxy brain move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malkiah View Post
    ... what?
    did we all just to watch you type while having a stroke?
    primarycolor2.0 has a stroke with every post so yes
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    I don't think
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malkiah View Post
    ... what?
    did we all just to watch you type while having a stroke?
    Sigh, when do you believe that people are going to hit a wealth cap? Why do you believe that?

    Everybody on the planet can just keep growing their wealth over time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    Sigh, when do you believe that people are going to hit a wealth cap? Why do you believe that?

    Everybody on the planet can just keep growing their wealth over time...
    Infinite growth is a literal impossibility. Resource scarcity exists. You keep trying to ignore that physical reality has limits.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    Sigh, when do you believe that people are going to hit a wealth cap? Why do you believe that?

    Everybody on the planet can just keep growing their wealth over time...
    Yeah, we're just going to tap into earth 2 after we've run out of stuff from earth 1 everyone knows that.
    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    I don't think
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Infinite growth is a literal impossibility. Resource scarcity exists. You keep trying to ignore that physical reality has limits.
    No that's the opposite of the truth, but it's okay because as time goes by you can keep looking at the statistics and you'll see that people can always create more economic value.
    Last edited by PC2; 2022-11-10 at 05:39 PM.

  12. #1572
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    No that's the opposite of the truth, but it's okay because every year for the rest of our lives we can keep looking at the statistics and you'll see that people can always create more economic value.
    The bit you seem to be missing is that it doesn't matter how much extra money is generated if almost all of it goes into the pockets of a couple of hundred people.

  13. #1573
    Quote Originally Posted by Drutt View Post
    The bit you seem to be missing is that it doesn't matter how much extra money is generated if almost all of it goes into the pockets of a couple of hundred people.
    But that isn't a good description of what is happening globally.

    People living in extreme poverty have been declining in numbers roughly, since China switched from the great leap backward.

    (After 2019 it's bleaker due to the pandemic.)

    The confusion is that because the poor in some places, like the US, aren't getting richer the belief is that it is universal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    *snip*

    Yellow Highlight.

    So you pay you play. Having someone pay for a privilege and in this case speech is the definition of restricting free speech.
    Twitter’s current lords & peasants system for who has or doesn’t have a blue checkmark is bulls–t,” Musk tweetted, bullshiting people
    "Law and Order", lots of places have had that, Russia, North Korea, Saddam's Iraq.
    Laws can be made to enforce order of cruelty and brutality.
    Equality and Justice, that is how you have peace and a society that benefits all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drutt View Post
    The bit you seem to be missing is that it doesn't matter how much extra money is generated if almost all of it goes into the pockets of a couple of hundred people.
    Yes it does, it matters to the people who earned that money, it matters to their employees, it matters to the public and the government who get to tax that wealth.

    ---

    Anyways as far as Elon Musk I think he is going to do a lot of trial and error with Twitter and that he'll find that there is a way to make it economically viable while also having a reasonable speech policy. People just need to stop freaking-out and be patient, give him a little time and breathing room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forogil View Post
    But that isn't a good description of what is happening globally.
    Global rates of absolute poverty and relative wealth distribution inside individual nations are very, very different conversations.

  17. #1577
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    Yes it does, it matters to the people who earned that money, it matters to their employees, it matters to the public and the government who get to tax that wealth.

    ---

    Anyways as far as Elon Musk I think he is going to do a lot of trial and error with Twitter and that he'll find that there is a way to make it economically viable while also having a reasonable speech policy. People just need to stop freaking-out and be patient, give him a little time and breathing room.
    Who exactly is freaking out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    Anyways as far as Elon Musk I think he is going to do a lot of trial and error with Twitter and that he'll find that there is a way to make it economically viable while also having a reasonable speech policy. People just need to stop freaking-out and be patient, give him a little time and breathing room.
    Nobody is freaking out, we are to busy laughing for that! ...44 billion spaffed up the wall!! haha
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    I'm enjoying watching this train wreck play out.

    I disabled my twitter account the other day, barely used it anyway.
    Here is something to believe in!

  20. #1580
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    No those numbers are all arbitrary. In reality it's fine that we have hundred-billionaires who will become trillionaires in the next several years. If you think there is a cap to wealth then you're just going to keep getting proven wrong over the years.
    Look, I know you like nothing better than to parade your lack of critical thinking, but this is a bit much even for you.

    So here's a thought experiment for you; if all the money in the world was owned by, let's say, 10 people, would the economy still work? No, of course not. There wouldn't be any left to exchange between the rest of the economy. It would collapse. So since it works at the moment, and it fails if the money all ends up in just a few hands, it stands to reason that there is a point where too much money concentrated in too few hands will break the global economy. Ergo, we need to do something to reverse that process, before it goes too far. Hence 100% taxation over a certain level of wealth.

    You could argue that what's happening in the economy today are the first suggestions of the economy buckling under the strain of all the money getting concentrated. I wouldn't argue with that. Either we do something now to address it in a controlled way, or it gets redistributed in a much uglier, more damaging way at some future point. I'd prefer it to be done in a civilised way.
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