Elon Musk Buys Twitter

[cubby]

Wonder how many Elon defenders will blame his stupidity on autism.

Honestly Twitter has never been this hilariously bad.

It would be pretty awful/hilarious if they tried that. Regardless of whatever autism may affect behavior and social interaction choices, Musk was previously a successful leader in several business areas, including bringing the United States (and frankly the world) into much cheaper space flight access.

So to casually toss all that aside and blame his abhorrent behavior on something he's had his entire life would be both intellectual dishonest and at some level morally bankrupt. Defending Musk at this point, in any of his personal choices, and even most of his business decisions, is ridiculous.

[Edge-]

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/16/elon...c-insults.html

Elon Musk said in court Wednesday that he does not want to be the CEO of any company.

He recently acquired social media giant Twitter and appointed himself as the CEO, adding to his responsibilities as the CEO and “technoking” of electric vehicle maker Tesla, and CEO and CTO of the U.S. defense contractor SpaceX.

Weird way of going about not wanting to be CEO, buying a company and becoming the CEO of it.

And complains about the SEC because of course -

“In general, I think the mission of the SEC is good but the question is whether that mission is being executed well,” he replied.

“In some cases I think it is not. The SEC fails to investigate things that they should and places far too much attention on things that are not relevant. The recent FTX thing I think is an example of that. Why was there no attention given to FTX? Investors lost billions. Yet the SEC continues to hound me despite shareholders being greatly rewarded. This makes no sense.”

Except like...

In fact, the SEC and several other regulators have reportedly launched investigations into collapsed crypto firm FTX, but it’s not clear if those investigations started prior to the firm’s sudden bankruptcy last week.

Elon continues to have a very bad month.

[Doctor Amadeus]

It would be pretty awful/hilarious if they tried that. Regardless of whatever autism may affect behavior and social interaction choices, Musk was previously a successful leader in several business areas, including bringing the United States (and frankly the world) into much cheaper space flight access.

So to casually toss all that aside and blame his abhorrent behavior on something he's had his entire life would be both intellectual dishonest and at some level morally bankrupt. Defending Musk at this point, in any of his personal choices, and even most of his business decisions, is ridiculous.

Yeah true, I should have made it clear what is awful are the innocent people and individuals being harmed and those fired. Nothing funny about that to me.


However after reading some of the tweets about how this was Elon's plan all along. Like he just decided to flush $54 billion down the toilet for free speech. So, that is why I said I imagine when or if some get past that his self identifying as Autistic according to a tweet by Marilee Matlin would be blamed next. Between him and Kanye I feel bad for people getting lumped in with these jackasses.

As for Elon again, I will admit I pretty duped by the fact at one point I thought this guy might be the really decent human being.

[Xyonai]

Wonder how many Elon defenders will blame his stupidity on autism.

Honestly Twitter has never been this hilariously bad.

The same people who'd belittle someone for being autistic are the same people currently up Musk's ass and claiming his burning down of Twitter is some 5D chess move. I don't think we're gonna see anyone make those moves unless Musk himself comes out and says 'Nuuu don' bully me I'm neurodivergent :,<' and his fart smellers can make this a fake narrative about Abelism

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Also as someone who's got ASD themselves: I can blame Musks' social ineptitude partly on the brain-chemicals being goofy, 'cuz that's just how it be. Him being a shitty asshole and an absolutely spoiled dipshit? Can blame that all on him and his upbringing.

[ringpriest]

The same people who'd belittle someone for being autistic are the same people currently up Musk's ass and claiming his burning down of Twitter is some 5D chess move. I don't think we're gonna see anyone make those moves unless Musk himself comes out and says 'Nuuu don' bully me I'm neurodivergent :,<' and his fart smellers can make this a fake narrative about Abelism

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Also as someone who's got ASD themselves: I can blame Musks' social ineptitude partly on the brain-chemicals being goofy, 'cuz that's just how it be. Him being a shitty asshole and an absolutely spoiled dipshit? Can blame that all on him and his upbringing.

Not just his upbringing - his current wealth and success. Human beings need negative feedback. Any dynamic system needs it in order to avoid eventually going out of control. When you're the world's richest man, who popularized electric cars and oversaw a revolution in space access, it seems like it would be very easy to cut yourself off from negative feedback (such as he's doing at Twitter, firing anyone who directly criticizes him). That becomes a variant of 'dictator disease', where no one dares contradict you, or give you bad news. In turn that leads to a disconnect from reality - functional insanity, even if the individual has no other mental or physical disease, because their inability to interact with the world-as-it-is has been badly broken.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Why do you say that? I'm optimistic in regards to Twitter and Musk and I've only heard weak arguments from the anti-Musk circle jerk.

What makes you feel optimisitic about a compnay no one wants to work for?

[Rasulis]

I saw on Tiktok, that less than 300 are left. But take that with a grain of salt.

It is possible that the engineering workforce is now down to around 300. One guy on LinkedIn claimed that 80% of the people in his department took the 3-month severance. The majority of the engineers that stayed are on visas.

[Edge-]

What makes you feel optimisitic about a compnay no one wants to work for?

Its infinite potential, probably. Everything has infinite potential, so everything is exciting.

Meanwhile, Twitter's offices are closed until Monday and they kicked people out because apparently Elon is worried about saboteurs. Which is like, objectively absolutely fucking hilarious.

[cubby]

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/16/elon...c-insults.html

Elon Musk said in court Wednesday that he does not want to be the CEO of any company.

He recently acquired social media giant Twitter and appointed himself as the CEO, adding to his responsibilities as the CEO and “technoking” of electric vehicle maker Tesla, and CEO and CTO of the U.S. defense contractor SpaceX.

Weird way of going about not wanting to be CEO, buying a company and becoming the CEO of it.

I thought that was weird as well. His mental decline is speeding up.

And complains about the SEC because of course -

“In general, I think the mission of the SEC is good but the question is whether that mission is being executed well,” he replied.

“In some cases I think it is not. The SEC fails to investigate things that they should and places far too much attention on things that are not relevant. The recent FTX thing I think is an example of that. Why was there no attention given to FTX? Investors lost billions. Yet the SEC continues to hound me despite shareholders being greatly rewarded. This makes no sense.”

Except like...

In fact, the SEC and several other regulators have reportedly launched investigations into collapsed crypto firm FTX, but it’s not clear if those investigations started prior to the firm’s sudden bankruptcy last week.

Elon continues to have a very bad month.

Those complaints about FTX are wholly justified and accurate. That entire situation is a shitshow failure of regulatory law. Regardless of all Musk gets wrong, he was right to call out that discrepancy.

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Yeah true, I should have made it clear what is awful are the innocent people and individuals being harmed and those fired. Nothing funny about that to me.


However after reading some of the tweets about how this was Elon's plan all along. Like he just decided to flush $54 billion down the toilet for free speech. So, that is why I said I imagine when or if some get past that his self identifying as Autistic according to a tweet by Marilee Matlin would be blamed next. Between him and Kanye I feel bad for people getting lumped in with these jackasses.

As for Elon again, I will admit I pretty duped by the fact at one point I thought this guy might be the really decent human being.

Agreed.

And same here, from awhile back. It all really started coming out with the Philippine submarine thing.

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Not just his upbringing - his current wealth and success. Human beings need negative feedback. Any dynamic system needs it in order to avoid eventually going out of control. When you're the world's richest man, who popularized electric cars and oversaw a revolution in space access, it seems like it would be very easy to cut yourself off from negative feedback (such as he's doing at Twitter, firing anyone who directly criticizes him). That becomes a variant of 'dictator disease', where no one dares contradict you, or give you bad news. In turn that leads to a disconnect from reality - functional insanity, even if the individual has no other mental or physical disease, because their inability to interact with the world-as-it-is has been badly broken.

Agreed. And a really solid explanation of his last-2-year-or-so decline.

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Not just his upbringing - his current wealth and success. Human beings need negative feedback. Any dynamic system needs it in order to avoid eventually going out of control. When you're the world's richest man, who popularized electric cars and oversaw a revolution in space access, it seems like it would be very easy to cut yourself off from negative feedback (such as he's doing at Twitter, firing anyone who directly criticizes him). That becomes a variant of 'dictator disease', where no one dares contradict you, or give you bad news. In turn that leads to a disconnect from reality - functional insanity, even if the individual has no other mental or physical disease, because their inability to interact with the world-as-it-is has been badly broken.

Agreed. And a really solid explanation of his last-2-year-or-so decline.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Its infinite potential, probably. Everything has infinite potential, so everything is exciting.

Meanwhile, Twitter's offices are closed until Monday and they kicked people out because apparently Elon is worried about saboteurs. Which is like, objectively absolutely fucking hilarious.

Ifninite opportunities for both employment and sabotage.

[Draco-Onis]

I thought that was weird as well. His mental decline is speeding up.

I didn't think that was weird Musk doesn't really run his companies, he is a venture capitalist. He is good at picking winners and usually has a eye for talent but for all his companies he just has the title. It's impossible for one person to run that many companies in any way shape or form.

[Edge-]

Those complaints about FTX are wholly justified and accurate. That entire situation is a shitshow failure of regulatory law. Regardless of all Musk gets wrong, he was right to call out that discrepancy.

I agree. But it reads a lot like him desperately trying to deflect from anything he and his companies are doing, which is what's actually happening. He's using the "Can't walk and chew gum" fallacy here because he's increasingly creatively bankrupt.

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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593673339826212864

New Twitter policy is freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach.

Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted & demonetized, so no ads or other revenue to Twitter.

You won’t find the tweet unless you specifically seek it out, which is no different from rest of Internet.

Kathie Griffin, Jorden Peterson & Babylon Bee have been reinstated.

Trump decision has not yet been made.

Note, this applies just to the individual tweet, not the whole account

Rolling out hilariously vague new policies that also reduce the number of ads displayed limiting their ad revenue?

WILL NOBODY STOP THIS GENIUS FROM MAKING ALL THESE BRILLIANT DECISIONS?!

[Endus]

I agree. But it reads a lot like him desperately trying to deflect from anything he and his companies are doing, which is what's actually happening. He's using the "Can't walk and chew gum" fallacy here because he's increasingly creatively bankrupt.

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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593673339826212864



Rolling out hilariously vague new policies that also reduce the number of ads displayed limiting their ad revenue?

WILL NOBODY STOP THIS GENIUS FROM MAKING ALL THESE BRILLIANT DECISIONS?!

Should we point out that he listed three names, and misspelled two of them?

Or maybe he really did unban Kathie and Jorden, and Kathy and Jordan are still banned?

[Edge-]

Should we point out that he listed three names, and misspelled two of them?

Or maybe he really did unban Kathie and Jorden, and Kathy and Jordan are still banned?

I'm just glad that Babylon Bee will be back with the two "jokes" they endlessly repeat with slightly different variations on them each time. Maybe we'll start seeing some of that conservative humor that they keep saying has thrived since Elon took over the platform, because I still haven't seen that shit anywhere. Just a ton of libs dunking hard on Elon and major brands and creating the best content on Twitter ever.

[cubby]

I didn't think that was weird Musk doesn't really run his companies, he is a venture capitalist. He is good at picking winners and usually has a eye for talent but for all his companies he just has the title. It's impossible for one person to run that many companies in any way shape or form.

That's just factually incorrect. SpaceX was him and three other people at the start, with Musk intimately involved with every aspect, including rocket design. I think despite his ongoing and cascading failures, it would be remiss to ignore his successes. Even if just used to juxtapose how badly everything he's doing now.

I agree that his situation now, however, is entirely impossible. Running that many companies (Tesla, Twitter, SpaceX) is just not feasible.

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I agree. But it reads a lot like him desperately trying to deflect from anything he and his companies are doing, which is what's actually happening. He's using the "Can't walk and chew gum" fallacy here because he's increasingly creatively bankrupt.

And I agree with your assessment, it certainly looks like he's trying to deflect away from his utter failure with literally every aspect of his acquisition of and running of Twitter (insomuch as he's "running" anything there).

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Rolling out hilariously vague new policies that also reduce the number of ads displayed limiting their ad revenue?

WILL NOBODY STOP THIS GENIUS FROM MAKING ALL THESE BRILLIANT DECISIONS?!

Is he just trying to lose $54B?

Whatever this steep mental decline is he's going through/suffering, I really hope SpaceX survives.

[Draco-Onis]

That's just factually incorrect. SpaceX was him and three other people at the start, with Musk intimately involved with every aspect, including rocket design. I think despite his ongoing and cascading failures, it would be remiss to ignore his successes. Even if just used to juxtapose how badly everything he's doing now.

I agree that his situation now, however, is entirely impossible. Running that many companies (Tesla, Twitter, SpaceX) is just not feasible.

What about his background and education makes you think he would know enough to help with rocket design? that's like throwing me in a hospital room and say I helped with surgery. There is a lot of fluff on this guy which is understandable seeing how he is "running" twitter, he is the kind of boss you have to give credit to in order to keep your job. He may have come up with good ideas I am not sure it's hard to separate facts from fiction with this guy.

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"Trump decision has not yet been made."

And I doubt it will be before he can put some fires out. If he can put some fires out. Makes no sense to get that nonsense going on top of everything else. Are there even enough employees left to be on this "council" he created to decide such things?

The council of Elon will decide in due time

[cubby]

"Trump decision has not yet been made."

And I doubt it will be before he can put some fires out. If he can put some fires out. Makes no sense to get that nonsense going on top of everything else. Are there even enough employees left to be on this "council" he created to decide such things?

There are now multiple sources reporting that several departments have 0-2 engineers working them. Could be just repeating the initial story, but shit it getting real, yo.
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"I know of six critical systems (like 'serving tweets' levels of critical) which no longer have any engineers," a former employee said. "There is no longer even a skeleton crew manning the system. It will continue to coast until it runs into something, and then it will stop."

[Edge-]

What about his background and education makes you think he would know enough to help with rocket design? that's like throwing me in a hospital room and say I helped with surgery. There is a lot of fluff on this guy which is understandable seeing how he is "running" twitter, he is the kind of boss you have to give credit to in order to keep your job. He may have come up with good ideas I am not sure it's hard to separate facts from fiction with this guy.

I think the most specific input he's had on design that I recall is that time he went on Joe Rogan and said he told his Starship design team to make the Starship more pointy because he liked the movie The Dictator.

[cubby]

What about his background and education makes you think he would know enough to help with rocket design? that's like throwing me in a hospital room and say I helped with surgery. There is a lot of fluff on this guy which is understandable seeing how he is "running" twitter, he is the kind of boss you have to give credit to in order to keep your job. He may have come up with good ideas I am not sure it's hard to separate facts from fiction with this guy.

I'm not rehashing this argument with you. It's documented what Musk did with SpaceX was both hands-on and hiring great talent. We can continue this in PM's if you like.

I agree there is no way he's adequately running anything at this point, including SpaceX (which is why I really hope it can survive this). Sounds like all he's doing at Twitter is driving talent away while at the same time tanking the ad revenue.

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I think the most specific input he's had on design that I recall is that time he went on Joe Rogan and said he told his Starship design team to make the Starship more pointy because he liked the movie The Dictator.

Yeah, no. But it's nice to feel that way about it.

[Draco-Onis]

I'm not rehashing this argument with you. It's documented what Musk did with SpaceX was both hands-on and hiring great talent. We can continue this in PM's if you like.

I agree there is no way he's adequately running anything at this point, including SpaceX (which is why I really hope it can survive this). Sounds like all he's doing at Twitter is driving talent away while at the same time tanking the ad revenue.

I think he does have an amazing eye for talent reusable rockets are not a new idea but he got the right team to get it done. The reason I think twitter is being ran like is because he never really wanted to do it. You can watch the interview he did before the bid I don't remember which format he was he openly said it was a really bad idea. This entire thing is due to ego he made the 420 bid as a joke when people made too much fun of him for it he signed without investigating to show everyone.

Every move after that if you look at it from this lens, there's no way to time the market at the time his bid was a good one but after it tanked just made things worse. The good thing for him though is Elon Musk is simply too big to fail, it would take some major monumental fuck ups for him to.