Originally Posted by
KrayZ33
Oh please, spare me about your non sense with "facts and sources" and not being wrong. You are fighting strawmen half the time, obviously you'd think that.
Go fucking figure, lol. But this vast difference between the specs is what I am talking about and you are arguing against when you argue with me.
So how is your quote from Blizzard related then if it's not about that? Explain.
No one fucking argued against that, this has never been my point and I've said so as well.
No I did not. I never opposed the notion that some specs are supposed to be better at something than others.
I'm opposed to the notion that some specs are "single target" and some others are "multi target", to the point where the difference is so big, that you have (or if it wasn't clear enough: to the point where you are considered an idiot to not do it) to pick the spec over the other.
Not sure what "anecdotal" means in your opinion. I was just using statements made by blizzard just as you did. Is your evidence anecdotal as well because it only applied to one expansion? What are you talking about. I didn't think such a statement would exist because their class/spec design doesn't show it. At least not to the point where you think it does and it's much closer to the point where I think it is (see the DPS difference between BM, SV and MM on single target)
What a joke.
"I'm a millionaire, everyone can do it". That's the kind of logic you have here.
The "guilds" (more like: players themselves) do it for a reason, it's because the fights are hard and difficult to clear otherwise. This means you are being forced through mechanics or design to play a specific spec. Otherwise you will have a much more difficult time to advance.
It's like saying you can mine an ore with your fists, if you just smash long enough. That's certainly "viable" as *you* would put it. But that's not how it's supposed to work. As soon as you are putting one spec over the other for certain scenarios to such a degree as it is now, and allow the players to switch, you are *telling* the player to switch.
This is so simple to see, even 6 year old kids playing minecraft do it and understand it.
I have no idea how often I have to repeat myself just so you understand the point.
You are saying that the difference in damage is fine, I'm saying it's not. They are too far apart.
You can see how "small" the differences between ST potentials for each spec are. That's also the reason why there is only *1* boss fight where BM is way above the other specs (in terms of how often players use that spec and maybe even how well it performs). Even though there are way more ST fights. And the reason why BM is used so often in that one fight doesn't even have to do with it being MT or ST.
Why isn't BM hogging all the player attention on Dausagne, Skolex or even Artificer.
Why is it that we only have like half a hand full of BM parses whenever MT is on the table, but not only a hand full of MM and SV parses whenever MT isn't? Why are the players somehow acting "different" then?
One of the reason this happens is whenever fights get too difficult otherswise, what could be another reason for this?
In your opinion there has to be one, because if the fights or the design isn't forcing the player, what else is?
What else would explain how at M+20 the most played spec in the game has only 1/5 amount parses of the, by far, least played spec.
Spec-Racism? I mean, maybe that's part of it? But do you honestly believe that's the only reason? No, obviously you don't.
You do know and understand that the spec is not being used because it's too weak, you know and understand that the other specs are vastly superior and at some points, player skill or other player's skill can't keep up and the player himself has to improve his performance.
And that's the point where the game has forced you.
In mythic-raids, that point happens. In M+15, *maybe* not (for most).. in M+20 however? It happened. As can again been seen by the amount of parses. There is no "shadowcouncil" that denies BM participation just to make them feel bad. They are being denied because the average BM isn't strong enough compared to the average SV or even MM.
Why is the DPS difference not "just as small" (or at least smaller than right now) in MT situations?
Obviously you still think BM is supposed to be the ST spec, even though the differences between them on that specific metric is rather small.
And that's exactly the point I'm standing on.
Your entire argument hings on this quote you made
Because it *doesn't* apply to SV and MM in reverse. As I said earlier. The numbers also show that, but you decided to ignore those while telling me how well you have given proof and all that bs.