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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by HeatBlast View Post

    If I threatened to have someone underneath me in any of my jobs killed I'd be looking at potential criminal charges, and I sure as fuck wouldn't have a job anymore. Why do we hold pieces of abhorrent shit to LOWER standards than regular workers, especially when they earn ~600 times more than the average ATVI employee?
    Well you answered your own question. Because he's rich af and people with money make the rules. Don't be fooled when someone rich gets caught and punished, that's just other rich people throwing one of their own under the bus to calm down the masses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    Well you answered your own question. Because he's rich af and people with money make the rules. Don't be fooled when someone rich gets caught and punished, that's just other rich people throwing one of their own under the bus to calm down the masses.
    Ya, it's more the thought process of people not making/in that position to just throw money at any problem/societally untouchable defending those in that position. . . That's what does my head in.

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    The worrying thing is that the acquisition is not at all certain at this point with multiple regulatory authorities having issues with it. And if it fall through, Kottick stays

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by HeatBlast View Post
    You didn't want to defend him, but then you went and defended him, nice.
    nope, i merely said claiming something without proof - something you btw did too - is bullshit... i didnt say he didnt do it, i merely said if someone claims he did it and they claim to have evidence how come they dont provide the evidence? that is suspicious, and in case of journalists a malpractice, and its reason people are misinforem about everything, bcs proof is no longer needed...
    just bcs it fits with your already decided opinion on someone doesnt make it truth, or right thing to do...

    asking for proof before making opinion is not defense, its common sense and OBJECTIVITY, i know wild concept for people like you who just go with the hate train, but objectivity IS important... even if the person is guilty...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolites View Post
    nope, i merely said claiming something without proof - something you btw did too - is bullshit... i didnt say he didnt do it, i merely said if someone claims he did it and they claim to have evidence how come they dont provide the evidence? that is suspicious, and in case of journalists a malpractice, and its reason people are misinforem about everything, bcs proof is no longer needed...
    just bcs it fits with your already decided opinion on someone doesnt make it truth, or right thing to do...

    asking for proof before making opinion is not defense, its common sense and OBJECTIVITY, i know wild concept for people like you who just go with the hate train, but objectivity IS important... even if the person is guilty...
    He apologised for it;

    An Activision spokeswoman said of the accusation: “Mr. Kotick quickly apologized 16 years ago for the obviously hyperbolic and inappropriate voice mail, and he deeply regrets the exaggeration and tone in his voice mail to this day.”
    You are defending in FACE of evidence, you didn't even read the article. You WANT to defend this man.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by HeatBlast View Post
    He apologised for it;
    You are defending in FACE of evidence, you didn't even read the article. You WANT to defend this man.
    so you dont know what he said, you dont know what the apology said, basicaly you got vague article without any sourcing and you call that evidence... god i hope you dont work anywhere near law...

    and rfuck bobby he is moron at best, but for god sake "someone said something unspecific" is not evidence, if you think it is you are out of reality...
    Last edited by Lolites; 2022-11-25 at 12:01 PM.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by LostSinclair View Post
    Cautiously optimistic about this whole deal. Microsoft has a great record when it comes to breathing back life into struggling game brands. We probably won't see it have a real impact until 11.0 though.
    You literally won't see it have any sort of impact whatsoever until earliest 13.0 lol...
    They're already halfway trough making 11... They always are... Which means now when DF is released? They're already working on expansion 12...
    So yeh... SUPER EARLIEST is expo 13 having any sort of influence from microsoft...
    So... about 5-8 years?

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Lolites View Post
    so you dont know what he said, you dont know what the apology said, and you call that evidence... god i hope you dont work anywhere near law...
    And if it wasn't verifiable any outlet reporting on it could be held for libel. You REALLY are reaching, VERY far into disgusting realms to defend Bobby, for someone who "didn't want to defend" him. This isn't a stance you want to burrow deeper in on mate, you were wrong, which is fine, but doubling down is not healthy.

    To avoid this going through the looking glass, this'll be my last post. This won't get any better after this I'm sure.
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  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    I'm just waiting for the inevitable announcement of World of Warcraft retail being added to game pass ultimate. They have been making a lot of moves to make the game controller friendly so I would not be surprised if it ends up on console as well.
    It's not going on console. They aren't going to split the small player base even further.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by rrayy View Post
    It's not going on console. They aren't going to split the small player base even further.
    They won't have to they'll share the same servers most definitely. It might create another class of player for the community to try and shit on because they use a controller but that's just short sighted for those people who would be that way.

    Not to mention gamepass ultimate is on PC as well so regardless once battle net merges with game pass it's going to be on there.
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    Apparently the merger is going to be challenged...

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/1...eover-00070787

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    They won't have to they'll share the same servers most definitely. It might create another class of player for the community to try and shit on because they use a controller but that's just short sighted for those people who would be that way.

    Not to mention gamepass ultimate is on PC as well so regardless once battle net merges with game pass it's going to be on there.
    1. THey won't be able to share servers. IT is too cost prohibitive to port an almost 20 year game with 20 year old code to console.

    2. No it won't be on gamepass. Their only other MMO is still not on it. WoW wil not be any different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pahbi View Post
    Apparently the merger is going to be challenged...

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/1...eover-00070787
    Challenged by the US, EU and UK regulators so far.

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Challenged by the US, EU and UK regulators so far.
    I don't really follow financial stuff that much, maybe mergers of this size just almost always get challenged.

    Microsoft has come under fire in the past for anti-competitive practices, so maybe the company gets scrutinized more.

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    The awful thing is, Sony is far more anti-consumer than MS here

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by pahbi View Post
    Apparently the merger is going to be challenged...

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/1...eover-00070787
    Except the FTC hasn't announced anything yet and have yet to actually file anything in a court of law.

    And if a lawsuit is coming there's no guarantee it's to block the deal - one of the ways you get to concessions is to get the companies to agree to what's known in the US as a "consent decree". And you get to a consent decree level by either filing an official complaint or ..... filing a lawsuit.

    And before they do that (filing a lawsuit as a regulatory agency) they need to find something actually illegal in the context and framework of the appropriate competition laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Challenged by the US, EU and UK regulators so far.
    Regulators finding reasons to move to a Phase 2 investigation stage of a merger review prompted by the companies involved specifically filing with them is not them challenging the deal.

    We'll know if they formally have an issue with the deal when they file a lawsuit specifically to block it (and not say wanting to get M$ and ATVI to agree to a consent decree). Or if they issue their final findings report which they haven't yet.

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by LostSinclair View Post
    Cautiously optimistic about this whole deal. Microsoft has a great record when it comes to breathing back life into struggling game brands. We probably won't see it have a real impact until 11.0 though.
    It's not like WoW is really struggling at all... at least when it comes to money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluspacecow View Post

    Regulators finding reasons to move to a Phase 2 investigation stage of a merger review prompted by the companies involved specifically filing with them is not them challenging the deal.

    We'll know if they formally have an issue with the deal when they file a lawsuit specifically to block it (and not say wanting to get M$ and ATVI to agree to a consent decree). Or if they issue their final findings report which they haven't yet.
    Largely true. Microsoft did seem worried about the UK regulator parroting SONY's views though. All I am saying is, the acquisition is not a sure thing and for how much it was reported here and e.g. in WoWHead when it happened, they haven't picked up any of the news concerning the process since.

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