Poll: what allied race combo preorder would be better

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  1. #221
    this feature would be too good for game, so ION gonna axe it for next 5-10 years, and add only furry fetish transmog costume.

  2. #222
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    Dracthyr are the prepurchase race.
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  3. #223
    sure i'll take Tuskar. would've settle for Tortolan as well but you didn't give that as an option.

    besides that even if they would add another race. fat chance we'll even get to play it until they feel to many people have quit waiting for it to be released in the first place.
    like SOME troll race we know... *coughcoughzandalarycoughcough* i don't care that it was for "lore" reasons. lore has gone out the window the moment we killed Arthas on the Frozen Throne, so f that XD

  4. #224
    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    The thing is the gap between 'high effort put into an NPC' and 'made playable' is quite significant.

    NPCs only need to support a handful of armor designs and Blizzard can call it a day. Most unique NPC races like Sethrak or Naga aren't built to support 100% of the gear in the game, like helmets, backpieces, tabards etc. To get all that working even for a simple humanoid like an Ogre is a lot of effort. Just the presence of a forehead horn means they have to modify all helmet proportions to make fit, or else deal with a horn that will ultimately poke through.

    Or with a Sethrak or Naga, all they have to do is make one model and leave the rest to slight color variations and that's about it. With a playable race, people are gonna expect a wealth of customization options like different hairstyles, different face textures, horn option, etc etc.

    So yeah, they can affort putting a lot of effort into NPCs, and even give them some customization options to boot. Or even give them custom animations, like Sethraks with crazy long tails. But taking that step to making them playable would still add on hundreds of additional of man hours making tweaks and adding customization options that is usually not worth the effort unless they had a real good reason to.

    The last time we saw this was with Kul Tiran, where they didn't plan on them being playable but made a last minute to (because they felt it necessary to balance out addition of Zandalari on Horde) and it still took them months after BFA was released to be added.
    No I get what you're saying and I don't disagree with you here at all. In fact, I'm agreeing with you as you even label the Kul'tiran as a great example of Blizzard going 'Yeah, we should probably do this' despite it being very taxing. And they even weren't sure it'd work out in time, which is fair - but I feel like if given more time (As in, 1+ year in advance), as a prepared race then I don't think they'd mind as much. The Dracthyr are clearly something they chose not to include normal armor for - which seems to be more modern models and actual 3D sets to stand out against the textured robes WoW infamously has.

    That said I will take credit away from Blizzard here. They made a slew of allied races which took up, arguably, a good chunk of man hours and split them across quite a few of them. Sure - the majority were reskins, but the few that weren't had other options explored. And I feel like Vulpera were one of those experiments! The head swap with a tail, mainly. That and to appeal to a certain crowd, potentially. Regardless.

    Ogres definitely would require them to redo geosets or modify them to match their body type. Likely the latter, as it's easier to do than adding an entirely new model type exclusive to them (Akin to Tauren head pieces). Seems to me it'd be remodeling them and adding customization options with not copy pasted animations would take up a larger chunk of time than redoing current gear to their bodies.
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  5. #225
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    Tuskar would be nice but prob some shit race will be like recolored NightElf ><

  6. #226
    Quote Originally Posted by Short View Post
    sure i'll take Tuskar. would've settle for Tortolan as well but you didn't give that as an option.

    besides that even if they would add another race. fat chance we'll even get to play it until they feel to many people have quit waiting for it to be released in the first place.
    like SOME troll race we know... *coughcoughzandalarycoughcough* i don't care that it was for "lore" reasons. lore has gone out the window the moment we killed Arthas on the Frozen Throne, so f that XD
    i agree that tortolan would be an INCREDIBLE addition to the game. unfortunately i don't see them with enough streanght to come out as a choice ;'(
    at this point i would take anything that's not an elf, but inside, i'm rooting for tortolan, murlocs or hozen \o

  7. #227
    Quote Originally Posted by MrKnubbles View Post
    Dracthyr are the prepurchase race.
    Most assuredly, but no one wants to hear it because of Reddit.

  8. #228
    I don't think i can bother anymore if they throw another elf in our face in form of a half baked allied race with next to no story or some kind of retcon if they use Sanlayn for example....

  9. #229
    Quote Originally Posted by VinceVega View Post
    I don't think i can bother anymore if they throw another elf in our face in form of a half baked allied race with next to no story or some kind of retcon if they use Sanlayn for example....
    Undead elves have been in the game since vanilla. Literally a faction leader.

  10. #230
    Ever since I saw female satyr model from Warcraft III: Reforged (quality of the game notwithstanding), I've always wanted the satyr allied race. A perfect mix of draenei and elves.

    After Legion I doubt they are going to do it, but hey, they use wierdest races in these expansions nowadays, so maybe one day.

  11. #231
    My personal take is while id love Vrykul to be the key one I think likely it will be the Venthyr and Kyrians since they had the most connection with alotta players interest as being playable early shadowlands.

    I could see it happening, Sylvaar and Necrolord Abominations might be a little less likely as they have very specific models that'd require alot of work to build on, but the Kyrians and Venthyr defo could happen giving the alliance Kyrians and the Horde Venthyr.

  12. #232
    Quote Originally Posted by Devonitar View Post
    Ever since I saw female satyr model from Warcraft III: Reforged (quality of the game notwithstanding), I've always wanted the satyr allied race. A perfect mix of draenei and elves.

    After Legion I doubt they are going to do it, but hey, they use wierdest races in these expansions nowadays, so maybe one day.
    Man if WoW had anything close to Reforged quality models, I'd play it.
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  13. #233
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Undead elves have been in the game since vanilla. Literally a faction leader.
    The Sanlayan in the horde have all been killed by shandris feathermoon.
    An there only have been a hand full in the first place.

    Also i do not care where another elve is comes from or goes. Seriously WHY would anyone need another differently coloured elve if there are so many other races available who allready have connections to horde and alliance... baffling.

    You get the same rig you allready have and the moment you put armor on you don't even see a difference to existing elves.
    And people gobble it up why blizz makes money by using a colorslider

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyvax View Post
    Vrykul makes the most sense.

    When you use toys to transform into a vrykul form, it actually changes your tooltip when you hover over a player (i.e. "Level 60 Vrykul Warrior).

    No other transformation toy does tha
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    Plenty of other toys do that.

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  15. #235
    Love the super unbiased framing of the poll

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    Ogre/Vrykul is my vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugnomo View Post
    Love the super unbiased framing of the poll
    Sounds like you want another elf recolor.

  17. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by The Stormbringer View Post
    Ogre/Vrykul is my vote.
    Me too. I'm over here playing my Kul Tiran Shaman and sighing every hour about would it could be instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Futhark View Post
    Me too. I'm over here playing my Kul Tiran Shaman and sighing every hour about would it could be instead.
    Here's one way I like to think of it: Ogres have been a part of the Horde as long as Goblins, and they're not nearly as mercenary. They're all about 'might makes right'. Them being a part of the Horde continued into WC3, and then further into WoW... and yet we still don't have playable Ogres, so many years later. We got Goblins before Ogres. It's so weird.

    And if they don't want to do Ogres, there's always Vrykul! Vrykul have looked awesome since Wrath, and they would fit pretty well in with the Horde after the humble pie we've been feeding them. I'm sure they would begrudgingly offer the 'short races' some respect after we kicked their asses so thoroughly.

  19. #239
    Tuskar? Really?

    Can you guys go and play Hello kitty online?

    Some races in the game exist just to provide immersion, setting and fresh air in some areas of the game.

    We already got mecha gnomes, vulpera and now tuskar?

    Give us ogres, half orcs, dragons, stuff like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemah View Post
    I think the addition of female Tuskarr models is the most compelling note toward it. I believe all of the Tuskarr in Northrend are male, right? That raises some interesting questions on it's own.
    Thats fixable with a few model replacements in the zone. Reconning Northrend Tuskarrs to have females is unlikely to be contentious.

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    Tuskarrs look like they use the same frame as a pandarian. It wouldn't be difficult to add as an allied race. They could even do Tuskarrs for alliance and darkfallen for horde. They could do some weird Dragonblight Wyrmrest Temple and Tuskarr storyline to tie that in with Dragonflight, or some scourge storyline. Both could easily be 9.2.5 scourge storylines.

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